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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:44 am 
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the street test in dundee was made harder at the request of the taxi association,i think 203020 allegedly having the list of questions was something to do with this, the result is ,last month 4 applicants for badges ,all 4 failed the test, this thurs 5 were due in front of the licensing commitee but all 5 failed the street test,2h, http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/reports/ag ... 109pub.pdf
im not sure how many failed before as the dta requested all the info be removed from the councils website after the council meeting,i dont have a driver on my cab at the moment and have no intention of putting one on but a 100% failure rate doesn,t sound healthy longterm


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:52 am 
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but a 100% failure rate doesn,t sound healthy longterm

I'm not too sure I would mind a 100% failure rate in my manor. :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:02 pm 
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but a 100% failure rate doesn,t sound healthy longterm

I'm not too sure I would mind a 100% failure rate in my manor. :wink:


I'd love 100% failure rate here for at least a year. Not much chance of that though they keeping making it smaller and easier Noddy could pass this test :lol:

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there was a letter from a disgruntled taxi badge applicant in tonights press
5th letter down
http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/outpu ... tters.shtm

the private hire company mentioned was helping drivers through the street test ,the drivers were then relying on sat nav to get around,punnters weren,t too happy when they were asked for their postcode ,ive heard a lot of horror stories from ex dundee p hire customers regarding which routes they were taken,maybe the £1 off is dph,s way of giving back some of the money the customers were overcharged :-o


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dundee wav wrote:
the drivers were then relying on sat nav to get around


what your saying there is that all drivers that came through the DPH training needed the use of sat nav when infact it was a very small minority of the drivers that needed the use of sat navs

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ive heard a lot of horror stories from ex dundee p hire customers regarding which routes they were taken,maybe the £1 off is dph,s way of giving back some of the money the customers were overcharged :-o


regarding the £1 off, this is something that happens every january to help out our customers after the xmas period, last year it was half price taxis

also, i think you should stop taking such an interest in what the company i work for is doing and take more of an interest in what yours maybe isn't doing

see you on the road big ane

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Unrealistic test


I have just failed the new taxi test for the third time, which means I have to withdraw my application and re-apply at the cost of £145. Once I re-apply, I will have spent nearly £400 taking into account time off work and travel expenses.
The new test differs from the old test in as far as the old test was about street knowledge and The Highway Code. You were given an hour to complete it.

The new test requires two and a half hours and includes: Paper 1 on routes which requires 85% correct to pass; Paper 2 on popular venues (85% to pass); Paper 3 on conditions of licence (100% to pass); Paper 4 on The Highway Code (88% to pass); and Paper 5 on road signs (90% to pass).

The recent issues with private hire firms and the criticisms that drivers didn’t have enough local knowledge has obviously provoked a knee-jerk reaction from Dundee City Council and Tayside Police. They have set the bar unrealistically high.

A good many of my friends are taxi drivers and, with over 100 years’ experience among them, they are all agreed the exam is nigh on impossible given the criteria
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With 100 years between them they should be able to help you pass the test :roll:

Sounds like the test I past over 8 years ago. They are now making it easier so that Andy Pandy & Teddy can join their friends Noddy and Big Ears. The test should be difficult peoples wallets are at risk as well as their lives. This is not some comedy of errors this is a serious professional business and should be treated as such by everybody

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they are all agreed the exam is nigh on impossible given the criteria


This is effectively a limit on drivers' licences.
The CGSA 1982 doesn't allow councils to limit driver numbers. By introducing a very stiff knowledge test, Dundee Council have effectively limited driver licences, without having any actual limit.
In a way, it's similar to the way London controls numbers. Although extremely difficult, I doubt if the test is impossible to pass.
Likely it will become easier to pass as existing drivers retire :wink:

IMHO it's a much fairer way than limiting plates.
Unlike Taxi licences, you can't buy or hire a driver licence. It has to be gained through commitment and hard work.
Entry to the trade is then based on merit, not good fortune or having the means to buy in.

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There have been 2 drivers passed the new test it has put a stop to sat nav drivers the old system was being abused. :P


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another 7 badge applicants this month,all 7 failed the street test
http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/reports/ag ... 209pub.pdf


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another 7 badge applicants this month,all 7 failed the street test
http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/reports/ag ... 209pub.pdf

Be just you left soon. :shock:

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id be happy with that situation


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Reply to unrealistic test

Maybe we should contact the Education Minister Deputy Justice Minister Hugh Henry and ask if it is possible to relax the standard of degrees at all of our universities, after all lots of students study for years & many may leave university without any qualifications whatsoever, let’s make it nice an easy for anyone to have a degree!! I quite fancy being a Doctor!!
Exams are meant to be studied for, they shouldn’t be laid on a plate so that any Tom, Dick or Harry can pass, maybe you should be thankful the test isn’t based on the knowledge i.e. London taxi drivers exam it takes 3 to 5 years to complete, as for the bar being set to high the trade require driver’s who have the knowledge to do the job not someone who has learnt a copy of six sheets of street names. I believe people have already passed the new taxi test so maybe the moral of the story is that you should have tried to study a bit harder!! Maybe you should just stick with the job you have which will save you wasting your hard earned cash on a career that doesn’t seem to be your forte.
The new taxi test came into effect because complaints were being received about some taxi drivers not having sufficient knowledge to take the public to their destinations. The reason this turned out to be the case is that the answers to the original test were widely available in the public domain and that is why members of the public were being asked for their post code so this could be inserted into the drivers SATNAV.
The test wasn’t a knee jerk reaction it had been discussed at great lengths during various liaison meetings with the Trade, Tayside Police and members of the Licensing Department. It was agreed what the consistency of the test should be and what criteria boxes should be ticked. But most of all this would ensure that any new drivers passing the test would have proved to be worthy of the job in hand.


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Maybe we should contact the Education Minister Deputy Justice Minister Hugh Henry and ask if it is possible to relax the standard of degrees at all of our universities, after all lots of students study for years & many may leave university without any qualifications whatsoever, let’s make it nice an easy for anyone to have a degree!! I quite fancy being a Doctor!!
Exams are meant to be studied for, they shouldn’t be laid on a plate so that any Tom, Dick or Harry can pass, maybe you should be thankful the test isn’t based on the knowledge i.e. London taxi drivers exam it takes 3 to 5 years to complete, as for the bar being set to high the trade require driver’s who have the knowledge to do the job not someone who has learnt a copy of six sheets of street names. I believe people have already passed the new taxi test so maybe the moral of the story is that you should have tried to study a bit harder!! Maybe you should just stick with the job you have which will save you wasting your hard earned cash on a career that doesn’t seem to be your forte.
The new taxi test came into effect because complaints were being received about some taxi drivers not having sufficient knowledge to take the public to their destinations. The reason this turned out to be the case is that the answers to the original test were widely available in the public domain and that is why members of the public were being asked for their post code so this could be inserted into the drivers SATNAV.
The test wasn’t a knee jerk reaction it had been discussed at great lengths during various liaison meetings with the Trade, Tayside Police and members of the Licensing Department. It was agreed what the consistency of the test should be and what criteria boxes should be ticked. But most of all this would ensure that any new drivers passing the test would have proved to be worthy of the job in hand.


If you get to where you want to go does it matter a Stuff whether or not the Driver took 10 seconds to enter a Post Code into a sat nav...at least you could sit back and observe the driver following the route and be safe in the knowledge that the guy wasnt giving you the needless runaround town that some do...

More Power to Tom Tom and Garmin i say... :wink:


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Sat navs don,t always take you the quickest and cheapest route.Sats are a real help when you get stuck .


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stationtone wrote:
Sat navs don,t always take you the quickest and cheapest route.Sats are a real help when you get stuck .


I disagree....


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