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 Post subject: Re: please tell
PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:39 pm 
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please tell us why, all i know is we are kept in formed iknow that some taxi paper as been i touch and a e-mail sent back.


I dont know which taxi paper was in touch....and to be honest...neither should you?

I do see something that does appear to stink.....both ways, but as I dont know the facts....I can only offer an opinion and wonder why the 'trade' is supportive of someone who operates outside the system?

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charles007 wrote:

please tell us why, all i know is we are kept in formed iknow that some taxi paper as been i touch and a e-mail sent back.


I dont know which taxi paper was in touch....and to be honest...neither should you?

I do see something that does appear to stink.....both ways, but as I dont know the facts....I can only offer an opinion and wonder why the 'trade' is supportive of someone who operates outside the system?

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I WAS NOT ASKING WHAT PAPER IT WAS I KNOW I WAS SENT AN E-MAIL ABOUT IT.

WELL I AM SURE WHAT EVER WE DO WILL BE WRONG, AS LONG AS WE CAN HOLD OUR HEADS UP AFTER.

WHY SHOULD WE NOT SUPPORT, ITS THE TRADE THAT WILL FOOT THE BILL ON THIS FROM FOUNDS.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:13 pm 
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charles007 wrote:

I WAS NOT ASKING WHAT PAPER IT WAS I KNOW I WAS SENT AN E-MAIL ABOUT IT.

WELL I AM SURE WHAT EVER WE DO WILL BE WRONG, AS LONG AS WE CAN HOLD OUR HEADS UP AFTER.

WHY SHOULD WE NOT SUPPORT, ITS THE TRADE THAT WILL FOOT THE BILL ON THIS FROM FOUNDS.


Dont shout.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:23 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
charles007 wrote:

I WAS NOT ASKING WHAT PAPER IT WAS I KNOW I WAS SENT AN E-MAIL ABOUT IT.

WELL I AM SURE WHAT EVER WE DO WILL BE WRONG, AS LONG AS WE CAN HOLD OUR HEADS UP AFTER.

WHY SHOULD WE NOT SUPPORT, ITS THE TRADE THAT WILL FOOT THE BILL ON THIS FROM FOUNDS.


Dont shout.

CC


oh yes silly me, you most be punished charley your a naughty boy, I am so very sorry sir for shouting. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: please tell
PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:27 pm 
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charles007 wrote:
captain cab wrote:
charles007 wrote:

I WAS NOT ASKING WHAT PAPER IT WAS I KNOW I WAS SENT AN E-MAIL ABOUT IT.

WELL I AM SURE WHAT EVER WE DO WILL BE WRONG, AS LONG AS WE CAN HOLD OUR HEADS UP AFTER.

WHY SHOULD WE NOT SUPPORT, ITS THE TRADE THAT WILL FOOT THE BILL ON THIS FROM FOUNDS.


Dont shout.

CC


oh yes silly me, you most be punished charley your a naughty boy, I am so very sorry sir for shouting. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


cheers lad....my ear drums were'nt harmed :wink:

I know where your coming from in terms of the licensing budget....and agree for what its worth.

I'm not so sure about supporting councillors...unless of course there's a really good reason behind it....which I would guess there is.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:49 am 
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After reading recent reports of how Councilor Sean Hornby allegedly used his car as a 'taxi' without a license, acting as a 'taxi' driver without a license and operating a car as a 'taxi' without an operators license, we would like to put the record straight. A 'taxi' is a hackney. Councilor Hornby has never driven a taxi in his life, illegally or otherwise. He used to be a private hire driver, which is entirely different. When he was elected as a member of the council he decided to run his airport business off a PSV restricted operators license instead of private hire. This is permitted as long as the distance of journey is over 15 miles, which of course Bolton to Manchester Airport is. These licenses are with VOSA not Bolton Council.



The alleged incident in February last year was a trip to the airport, pre booked on a PSV restricted operators license. This business was not a private hire or taxi business and therefore does not even come under the jurisdiction of Bolton Council. PSV vehicles do not have plates and stickers like private hire but a disc displayed in the window, which Cllr Hornby was displaying. Copies of the license and disc along with booking sheets had been provided to the council along with emails from VOSA saying his vehicle was licensed. Why these were disregarded by licensing is a mystery. He legally used his car as a PSV vehicle, acting legally as a PSV driver, driving a car which was on a legal and valid PSV restricted operators license.



This is why for the last 12 months Cllr Hornby has been pleading not guilty. It was only after considerable expense, paying for solicitors and immense stress over the last year he decided when offered a caution to accept. He could not afford to carry on financially or emotionally.



Obviously people have only heard one side of the story as Cllr Hornby, who was hoping to comment this week after council meetings, has been prevented from giving his version of events, so no one can blame them for responding in a negative way. But we feel it is only right that people hear his side of the story. Thankfully the hackney (BBBBPHA) and private hire associations chose to find out the facts for themselves before they commented, after Bill Williams of the Bolton Taxi Driver Association called for him to be axed. Cllr Hornby when contacted showed them all the relevant documents and told them to judge for themselves, after doing so they are now supporting Cllr Hornby and calling for an investigation as they believe the caution should be lifted as in their opinion he has done nothing wrong.



He has certainly not had any preferential treatment, it has been more like a political witch hunt for the past year. He is a hard working councilor for Little Lever and Darcy Lever and we hope that, when the investigation is complete, he can resume his duties with a clear name. People should remember there always 2 sides to every story and the only thing he did wrong was accepting the caution!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:12 pm 
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After reading recent reports of how Councilor Sean Hornby allegedly used his car as a 'taxi' without a license, acting as a 'taxi' driver without a license and operating a car as a 'taxi' without an operators license, we would like to put the record straight.


Who wrote this? Councillor Hornby?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:36 pm 
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charles007 wrote:
we would like to put the record straight.


"Who is we," Charles?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:16 pm 
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JD wrote:
charles007 wrote:
After reading recent reports of how Councilor Sean Hornby allegedly used his car as a 'taxi' without a license, acting as a 'taxi' driver without a license and operating a car as a 'taxi' without an operators license, we would like to put the record straight.


Who wrote this? Councillor Hornby?

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I think it wasnt Charles :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: how the
PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:51 pm 
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he was not plying as said before it was a book job but book with two firms.

Mr charles007 could you just remind me who the other taxi firm was, cos it might be worth contacting them for their side of the story? :wink:

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This business was not a private hire or taxi business and therefore does not even come under the jurisdiction of Bolton Council.

It does come under the council if PSV rules aren't adhered too. Then the so-called PSV is an illegal PH. Which is down to the council.

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charles007 wrote:
This business was not a private hire or taxi business and therefore does not even come under the jurisdiction of Bolton Council.



I cant see that being right....what about the 1972 Local Government Act?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:20 pm 
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JD wrote:
charles007 wrote:
After reading recent reports of how Councilor Sean Hornby allegedly used his car as a 'taxi' without a license, acting as a 'taxi' driver without a license and operating a car as a 'taxi' without an operators license, we would like to put the record straight.


Who wrote this? Councillor Hornby?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:21 pm 
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JD wrote:
charles007 wrote:
After reading recent reports of how Councilor Sean Hornby allegedly used his car as a 'taxi' without a license, acting as a 'taxi' driver without a license and operating a car as a 'taxi' without an operators license, we would like to put the record straight.


Who wrote this? Councillor Hornby?

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No P/Hire Trade

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 Post subject: Re: how the
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he was not plying as said before it was a book job but book with two firms.

Mr charles007 could you just remind me who the other taxi firm was, cos it might be worth contacting them for their side of the story? :wink:


Ring Bill Willames he will tell you, and i dont know is number.

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