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Ryanair stops service to Blackpool over airport charge

No frills budget airline Ryanair has announced it will stop services to Blackpool Airport just after the New Year. The cease in service is due to a new £10-per-passenger charge being introduced by the north west England airport.

The fee, which will go into effect on January 5, 2009, is being charged for airport development purposes and will apply to all departing passengers aged 16 and over. Its will fund a £2 million development plan to upgrade runways, taxi-ways and the apron, as well as to improve customer facilities and "get more passengers through the door."

Ryanair has specified that, as a result of the fee, it will close its three-a-week Blackpool-Giron services, as well as its daily Blackpool-Dublin services from January 4 onwards.

Ryanair deputy chief executive Michael Cawley said: "This is a black day for Blackpool airport.

"The management's decision, against Ryanair's advice, to introduce an airport development fee is an extremely regressive step which inevitably involves a massive increase in the cost of travel for passengers through the airport."

However, in efforts to balance the increase in fees, all parking charges at the airport, for up to 15 days, will be lifted from the new year.

Ryanair has carried over 1.3 million passengers on its Blackpool routes since initiating its service at the Lancashire airport in May 2003. The halt in the carrier's services to Blackpool is the latest in a series of flight frequency reductions and service closures announced by Ryanair over the last few weeks.

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I have found JDs post very interesting but as a am no lawyer please can someone clear up the situation

1 was the private hire firm wrong to accept book bookings

2 Were they guilty of illegally plying for hire

3 Who was right and who was wrong in this case.

I would be very grateful if someone could clear this up as i found the case a bit hard to understand thanks


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I have found JDs post very interesting but as a am no lawyer please can someone clear up the situation

1 was the private hire firm wrong to accept book bookings

2 Were they guilty of illegally plying for hire

3 Who was right and who was wrong in this case.

I would be very grateful if someone could clear this up as i found the case a bit hard to understand thanks


1, The situation was about accepting 'Block' bookings.

2, No it was private land as per Scampion case.

3, The PH operator for asking for Block bookings.

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2, No it was private land as per Scampion case.


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Plying for hire in a public place is established case law, anything other than a hackney carriage such as a private hire vehicle has to be pre booked through a licensed operator. Any vehicle accompanied by a driver other than a hackney carriage, found exhibiting itself to the public with the intention it can be hired could be breaking the law. Any persons accompanying vehicles that have formed a taxi rank in public view for the purpose of hire are committing an offence.

According to case law.


IMHO, if the PHV's in this example were "projecting" themselves towards the public (i.e. "plying for hire") they would probably, almost definitely, be guilty of an offence - they are not insured for public hire, and I doubt the old "I am fireproof because I am on private land" argument would hold up in court.

In short they need to be booked PRIOR to the job, and name rank, serial number etc has to be taken. They should not even be visible before they have been dispatched by their controller. (I now expect wannabeahack to intervene at this point!!!!)

Granted, a Hackney carriage, out of area, would be a totally different scenario, I think, and therefore the "Scampion" case might apply.

Not the issue under discussion therefore, or am I wrong?
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Doc G wrote:

Not the issue under discussion therefore, or am I wrong?
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Yes your wrong, read scampion....then come back :wink:

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captain cab can you direct me to the scampion case please


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stationtone wrote:
captain cab can you direct me to the scampion case please

Have you got a spare month. :roll: :roll:

http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4662

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Cynic.

:lol:

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Thank you very much as always this forum comes up trumps


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stationtone:

You asked for this - I hope it is ok?

http://The Liars part2/forum/viewtop ... 115be8acff

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Yes your wrong, read scampion....then come back


With all respect mate - read it to death!

Sincerely, please explain how a PHV can lawfully ply for hire in a public place, whilst being properly insured, and not operating as an unlicensed booking office? - I am of course talking about fares taken "at the window" so to speak, and not "block bookings".

Also why did the committee, and the licensing officers think that this scenario was probably illegal in this case?

Can I also again ask anybody out there if they know any details of LTDA v Tesco


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Sincerely, please explain how a PHV can lawfully ply for hire in a public place, whilst being properly insured, and not operating as an unlicensed booking office? - I am of course talking about fares taken "at the window" so to speak, and not "block bookings".

A PH can't ply anywhere.

And all PH licenses say a booking must be made with a PH operator from the same area.

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And there I was wondering why I could not turn up at Gatwick in my Fiat 850 pick-up, unlicensed of course, but with a "TAXEE" sign (in crayon!).

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A PH can't ply anywhere.

And all PH licenses say a booking must be made with a PH operator from the same area.


I was just thinking...hell I know f*ck all there for a moment...then I saw your post...and realised DocG is the one with an issue down in Chichester......ffs.

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DocG is the one with an issue down in Chichester


In a court near me very soon - therefore very touchy, feeling insecure and sh*tting cornflakes! :sad: :sad: :sad:


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DocG is the one with an issue down in Chichester


In a court near me very soon - therefore very touchy, feeling insecure and sh*tting cornflakes! :sad: :sad: :sad:


If you can get the scampion case overturned, you'll be doing the world a favour!

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