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Weren't we discussing possible incentives a few days ago Mick?

There's definitely a few posts somewhere, if you can't find them give me a shout, but I think we were talking about different age-rules, different license fee structures (as in Ireland) and tinkering with fuel duty.

As regards tiers, a one tier system would obviously require new legislation since as you correctly say the current law doesn't provide for this.

However, I believe some LAs do something similar with chauffer drive and the like already, for example different rules than for mainstream PH. So it would be interesting to know how they define what is and what isn't, but whether they have the powers to do this I don't know.

Dusty

I have been looking at this myself, in our patch they put ugly white stickets on the doors of private hire (and very nice ones on hackneys)

can you give me the names of authorities that do distinguish between private hire and chaufer driven and the criterion that they use to divide the 2 please?

Wharfie

Well that's what I don't know Wharfy.

There are two possible scenarios:

- different rules (eg not having to display plates)
- not bothering to license them!!

I doubt if they actually draw up formal rules for the latter!!

How they do it for the former I don't know, if they say "chauffeur drive" do not have to show a plate, for example, then in obvious cases this will not be a problem, but it's the dividing line that's the problem.

Sorry, I don't know any specific LAs offhand, but I'm sure I read something about Liverpool somewhere.

Andy'll know!

Dusty

Down here we have licensed PH limos/executive vehicles. They don't have to display the sort of signage that the rest of the PH do.

The way it works is you have the lot i.e. roof lights, door signs, rear PH plate etc or you have none of them. It's usually the operators that insist on the council signage being displayed. The council would be OK (I think) if normal PHs operated as limos with no signage.

Clearly a license plate must be displayed somewhere, but they usually have a smaller one in the rear window.

Not perfect, but its got to be better to have them licensed, than have them running around un-licensed.

round here their trade is small, but the "demand" is big, we do have the wedding fleets and the funeral fleets but I ignore them in this scenario,

I cannot think of any that are licensed in the category I am on about.

we have 2 executive firms , what they are exactly ( both I count as friends of mine) as very strict, posh and smart private hire but the actual cars are just cleaner and newer than anybody elses, when they get thier door signs they will look tacky. thier cars are just "normal"

but there are others that are not licensed at all, one of there firms insist drivers have hackney licenses, but they dont wear them.

anyone who books a job must contract the hire for 24hours.

now suppose I bought some black merks (its not a possibility as I am investing in public hire) I would be ok about the principle of licensing, what I am against is an ugly yellow plate, and ugly council door signs,

I would want my family crest on the doors and tastefull gold lettering, and I definatly would want say 24hours advance bookings, as I would not want certain people booking them when there was no one else!

get the picture?

Wharfie

I didn't know you were from the aristocrasy Wharfy?

Dusty

well you learn something every day?

I am a decendent of a family of cotton barons, great great grandfather was m.p for Oldham and introduced the 10 hour act, which made unlawful the employment of children for over 10 hours per day.

The family built the town hall, in a famous northern town,(and paid for it) and ancestrol homes including a castle are still there.

alas whilst the family have a coat of arms, the wealth has long since gone, but the family of many generations have a society in a northern town (holding many get toggethers) and also a branch of the family in America.

there is still snob value, they tut tut about me being a taxidriver!

http://rylibweb.man.ac.uk/data2/spcoll/fielden/



Wharfie

The Honourable Sir Wharfie.

Yeah. It does have a kind of ring to it.

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There is Significant Unmet Demand for my Opinion.

As do we Wharfy, as do we.

ok yerve ad yer fun, now button it!

Wharfie

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There is Significant Unmet Demand for my Opinion.

I wish my council would license the limo especially the long ones. Death traps absolute death traps.

There was an interesting bit I saw on Limos on a DoT site not long back. As I recollect it, there are only three Limos which have ever been type approved in the UK. One was a Merc, another was a Ford Scorpio (! which shows its age), and the other was a Lincoln. They reckoned all the rest, built AFTER a certain date were not licensable on UK roads for hire and reward operation. Apparently, if they were built before that date (which I cant remember) then they are exempt anyway. It made me wonder a bit about some of those funeral cars to.

nevermind the funeral cars, my council says it must be m3 to be safe

"then why is the council streach limo provided for the mayor only m2"? are you trying to kill him?

them lot never lead by example.

Wharfie

my council is now looking at this forumla. i think the licenseing girl saw it on here.
#which is a bonus because they hate putting up fares.
does anyone know how many councils us ethis sort of formula?

Ian