Taxi Driver Online

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbhIyQzbxsc

definitely Oscar material

Not a lot of love lost up there methinks.

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It's the "night of the long knives" up here.

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Oh you better believe it Sussex there is a lot of it going about these days like cutting up each other and running red lights to get a fare is becoming standard play these days blood pressure readings are through the roof big time it’s quite funny.

Yes Chipper. And be sure you apportion the blame where it deserves to be.

The council.

Drivers are in a straight-jacket of the council's making.

Restricting taxis, preventing drivers from having real control of their own affairs means that they are having to work longer, harder and more desperately to keep their heads above water.

Driving their own taxi, making savings by using it as their private car, would allow them to control and contain their costs.

Driving their own vehicle they could work when the work exists, when the public need taxis, and when the monetary rewards are achievable.

Restriction, limiting driver opportunity, is bad for customers and bad for drivers who have to pay for shifts when they can't possibly cover the cost of the rental and the fuel - effectively these shifts are worked for nothing - and brings the desperation on the road that you describe. Who else works a shift for nothing Chipper?

You don't want to be wiped when working chipper, then cut the drivers a fair shake. Give us half a chance to make money. You want restriction, but you bleat like a sheeple when the consequences of the restricton affect you.

It's time for you to wake up and smell the coffee.

And do you know what the simple truth here is?

Delimitation means the same drivers working the same shifts. Just in different vehicles.

With noi sudden huge influx of new drivers here will be no real dilution of available work. Real quality controls will prevent any sudden influx of drivers, the value of the job will be invested in the driver.

The reason delimitation is being resisted isn't because of this, it's because owners, and the council, want to maintain high rentals, high false plate values and maintain their dictatorial control of the trade.

And hell mend drivers and customers.

Hell, that's just immoral.

am i missing something here????? why should a driver be able to put a

taxi on the road for free??? after all its a business.... is their any other

businesses you can start for free??? what happened to you need to

spend money to make money??? i agree a driver needs to make money

but surely if he wants the cream of chooseing his own hours and the use of

his own car then he should at least pay for the privelage..... a few years

ago i rented my house but decided i wanted my own, so i bought 1..

something like taxi plates... and i know ill never really own it but its mine

to use how i decide to use it...... so why dont all the guys looking for a

freebie just dig deep and pay up like lots of us on here had to.....

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Yes you have missed something.
Nobody ever bought their plates from the council, because the council never sold them to anyone.
The fact that they have been bought and sold by individuals and psedo companies means nothing.
You didn't pay for ownership since they were never anyone's property to sell.
If you had rented a council house, would you expect to sell it when you moved, without buying it first?
Would you expect to buy a council house from the tenant, without finding out if it were his to sell?
Would you be allowed to sublet it?

Buying a plate is a gamble. If the council delimit, you have paid good money for nothing.
If you ever believed it was a sure thing, you are a fool.

I asked this before and never got an answer:
Which bank would lend anyone £50k with nothing for security except a council owned plate?
Perhaps you would care to tell us?

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Tell me GUSMAC... If you found a fiver, ie: you got it for free, would you give it away for nothing????? its obviously got a value.... And yes it is a gamble paying money for the use of a plate, but while you have the use of it you should be able to make money with it and thats what were all trying to do.... Its a bit like opening a shop with no money... you couldnt do it so why should you not pay to have a taxi business....

Is the real reason people that want a plate for nothing, dont have the money and/or cant get credit???

They could always put their head down and work like f**k and save

OR get a job in another trade

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If I were honest I would hand it in to the police lost property. Keeping it is technically an offence.

I certainly wouldn't go around telling anyone else they had no right to find any another fiver and should buy one from someone who had

You didn't find your plate though, did you?
You either got granted it, subject to the conditions attached to it and the law of the land, or you paid some one for it, either aware of the fact it wasn't his to sell or blissfully ignorant of that fact. One makes you reckless, the other foolish. I'll let you decide which is which.



At least you admit it is gambling. Some you win, some you don't.



More like trying to open a shop with money and finding you have to pay off the existing shopkeepers for the right to trade.



Or don't want to take the same gamble as you?
BTW Still no answer to this:
Which bank would lend anyone £50k with nothing for security except a council owned plate?

It's starting to sound like you took out a mortgage on the grotto to finance your gambling, Santa.
"Never gamble with money you can't afford to loose, son." Sound advice from the first bookie I ever laid a bet with.



Why? So they can gamble it away like you?



As of course could you.

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For fecks sake Santa, you bought a job - no more- no less.

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santa number one it aint free for starters.

number 2(plop)its a licence to operate a taxi,nothing more nothing less.

the fact that you attach material value to it as though it has some real value is niether here nor thier.

the law states it cant be transferred, thats becouse it is/was the intention of parliment that you return it to the council.
not becouse they saw it as being valuable,in fact it was probably just the opposite(thought never crossed thier minds).
guys like you take what is done in the norm(selling)and what the council say as being the truth and the law and must therfore be right both morally and legally,youre wrong on both counts imo.
dont believe me watch this space.
if youre gonna sell do it sooner rather than later.

youre system only works if everyone believes.
it only takes a few heratics and the whole belief system collapses.

It's pyramid selling.

The false value only exists as long as someone else buys into the illiusion.

When that stops, as happened in Dublin and elsewhere, snow disappearing off a dyke in a sudden heatwave seems slow compared to how quick the plate "value" is lost.

Yet, the council is still allowing plates to be bought and sold. There are guys even now being tempted to squander their redundancy, their family silver to buy into this illusion. Which they couldn't do without the council's tacit agreement.

Perhaps the real difficulty for the council is that having allowed this to happen, someone may well say to a Sheriff that they have been stiffed by the council and ask him to require the council to pay the money back.

Perhaps its not logic that is preventing the council from de-limiting taxi numbers, perhaps its the fear of being sued.

Imagine, wee lassies getting assaulted, raped or worse because the council fears getting sued.

What price human dignity, or even a life, in Edinburgh Council's political world?

Just imagine receiving a letter from jasper,
In it it says, Hurry you can have this piece of plastic all for 50K dont delay send the money today, if you want this nice bit of worthless plastic, I will even give you a worthless lifetime guarantee with it

what gets me is the council pretending they have only issued x amount of licences in x amount of years.
when in fact they know full well that they have issued licences in thier hundreds to people who apply for a licence through incorporation,these applicants are somehow given higher priority over someone who applies at the front desk for the same licence,these special applicants never have to go before a commitee,and thier grant of a licence is garaunteed.

isnt this black marketeering sanctioned and approved by the council
is this right
isnt this corruption

i doubt this! is in the spirit of the law.
in fact ill bet it aint