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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:42 pm 
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Trev, you and CC, made the jump and became businessmen in your own right, but arguing for the slave trade to continue is madness. Times have changed. The recession put paid to that. The stupid masses are being shaken out of their slumber and they know it's every man for himself. Propping up someone else's illusion couldn't be further from their minds. This is no longer about de-restriction, and whether or not it's good for the trade, it is simply about everyone having a fighting chance. :wink:

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Skull. there are thousands of businesses going bust every month all over this country. and the effects of this will seriously affect the Taxi and private hire trades, that is obvious.
I have a slight advantage over you( in my opinion), one is that I have been in the trade a great deal longer, and have driven both private hire and hackney for over 25 years before I started my garage, two no matter what happens nobody will win, and three , if you want to see your future come down to Sefton and see Delta's new office .

The cab trade and private hire trade have no backbone, they cannot see the sand storm that is coming, technology is evolving so fast that in a few years' time the customer will simply press a key fob, and his Taxi will appear.

If you believe in what you're doing then keep fighting, just don't be the person in the front that takes all the abuse while the person in the background takes all money.
:wink: If I want a private hire car at my home, I simply ring the number, I don't have to say anything, a few minutes later my phone will ring and a pleasant voice tells me the car is outside.. :wink:

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Skull. there are thousands of businesses going bust every month all over this country. and the effects of this will seriously affect the Taxi and private hire trades, that is obvious.
I have a slight advantage over you( in my opinion), one is that I have been in the trade a great deal longer, and have driven both private hire and hackney for over 25 years before I started my garage, two no matter what happens nobody will win, and three , if you want to see your future come down to Sefton and see Delta's new office .

The cab trade and private hire trade have no backbone, they cannot see the sand storm that is coming, technology is evolving so fast that in a few years' time the customer will simply press a key fob, and his Taxi will appear.

If you believe in what you're doing then keep fighting, just don't be the person in the front that takes all the abuse while the person in the background takes all money.
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Trust me trev, money is not my god. And I am not waiting for the future of the cab trade to become a key fob. I started something a few years ago and I intend to see its end. The rest is history.

You need the cab trade Trev, in whatever form it takes. I don't. That's the difference. :wink:

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You need the cab trade Trev,
It's amazing how many people make that assumption... Oh how wrong they are. :wink:

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"Jim Taylor, secretary of taxi trade lobby group CABforce, today said there was no need to "tinker" with the current set-up.

He said: "Taxis are readily available in Edinburgh about 95 per cent of the time so we do not believe there is an unmet demand.

"In Edinburgh, we have about as many taxis per head of population as London, where there are no restrictions at the moment."

CABforce also believes that easing the rules would result in hackneys catering for the disabled being replaced with "lowest-common denominator vehicles" such as saloon cars.

Mr Taylor added: "The quality and integrity of the trade will simply diminish."

Bristol deregulated its taxi fleet in 1997 but reintroduced restrictions last year.

The number of hackney cabs jumped from 273 to about 650 during the period, prompting claims that drivers were being forced to work almost around the clock and even overcharge passengers to make ends meet "

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Bristol deregulated its taxi fleet in 1997 but reintroduced restrictions last year.

The number of hackney cabs jumped from 273 to about 650 during the period, prompting claims that drivers were being forced to work almost around the clock and even overcharge passengers to make ends meet "



But they were all alright because they all had cabs that could double as there private :roll:


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You need the cab trade Trev,
It's amazing how many people make that assumption... Oh how wrong they are. :wink:


I think it's more than just an assumption Trev. Why else would you be on this forum trying to defend the indefensible?

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You need the cab trade Trev,
It's amazing how many people make that assumption... Oh how wrong they are. :wink:


I think it's more than just an assumption Trev. Why else would you be on this forum trying to defend the indefensible?

I take it that you are referring to the fact that I keep pointing out , that certain people are making themselves out to be martyrs, ie.. fighting for the rights of the working man , which is just smoke and mirrors, whilst all the time the true intention is to get a Licence and sell it. as you say indefensible :wink:

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You need the cab trade Trev,
It's amazing how many people make that assumption... Oh how wrong they are. :wink:


I think it's more than just an assumption Trev. Why else would you be on this forum trying to defend the indefensible?

I take it that you are referring to the fact that I keep pointing out , that certain people are making themselves out to be martyrs, ie.. fighting for the rights of the working man , which is just smoke and mirrors, whilst all the time the true intention is to get a Licence and sell it. as you say indefensible :wink:


You shouldn't judge everyone by your own standards, Trev.

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MR T wrote:
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You need the cab trade Trev,
It's amazing how many people make that assumption... Oh how wrong they are. :wink:


I think it's more than just an assumption Trev. Why else would you be on this forum trying to defend the indefensible?

I take it that you are referring to the fact that I keep pointing out , that certain people are making themselves out to be martyrs, ie.. fighting for the rights of the working man , which is just smoke and mirrors, whilst all the time the true intention is to get a Licence and sell it. as you say indefensible :wink:


so you admit that you dont have drivers interests at heart only trev's and the garage.
isnt this a strange hobby for a guy who has little to do with taxi's.


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I don't know if de-limitation would work in certain areas, I do know it's not really worked well here. I'm also of the opinion that "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell" :-|

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i know what youre saying
but who gets to grow and who doesnt
and gets to say so
and why :roll:


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ALI T wrote:
i know what youre saying
but who gets to grow and who doesnt
and gets to say so
and why :roll:


Not entirely sure what you mean by "who gets to grow and who doesn't" cos I think it should be one man one plate, simple really, you can only drive one vehicle.

With regard to "who gets to say so" then that would be the LA based on whatever criteria they have in place at the time. If the regulations need adjusting cos the trade aren't happy with them and think them illegal then so be it. I personally believe that quality control of vehicles and drivers should be implemented, but, not entirely sure how far I'd go with this. I'd have to give the quality control idea a bit more thought before I commented on it further. I don't believe total de-limitation works and I don't believe that plates should be allowed to be sold as they ultimately belong to the council IMO.

There you go that's my opinion such as it is :D

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bravo toots =D> =D>

thing is it already is illegal to sell plates up here.

but the la's allow it.
despite the law saying otherwise.

thats why i dont think they are best placed to decide anything.


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ALI T wrote:
bravo toots =D> =D>

thing is it already is illegal to sell plates up here.

but the la's allow it.
despite the law saying otherwise.

thats why i dont think they are best placed to decide anything.


If that be the case then I think it is more important to actually get the LA to do their job first then decide whether or not to battle on for de-limitation. You have to remember the law is on your side use it.

As was once said "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing".

The rot will not out itself in the LA it has to be forced out and I don't suppose for 5 minutes that will be easy but I believe it needs to be done bufore any fair system can be implemented.

It seems to me that some are fighting for the easiest to attain rather than the most just attain

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