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So before you had your plate would you have went on strike to stop more plates being issued?

And you now seem to be supporting a return to the days when YOU will be able to shaft other drivers?

Pot calling the kettle black?

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So it must be about a year since the 'roadblocks' and what's changed sine then?



Well whatever's going on in the background certainly doesn't seem to have been helped by the action, given the time it's taken.

And do you really think the SNP will change anything - won't they just do what the licensing department tells them to?

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Aye, and when you hear people bragging that hiring their plate out pays their mortgage then you want to make this worse?

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. And I thought i was the negative one.you have rubbished all my suggestions so lets hear yours.

I will be surprised if the Dundonian actually still works in this game, to think we are all better off now than we were before de-reg in 1999 you must be the only one. Speaking as someone who drives a cab full time , the trade has had 8 tariff increases since 99 and I know my turnover is less for more hours, so if you think that’s a better life you must be in denial of the facts. I also know drivers who are now running their own cabs & even they say they are worse off.

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Watch out curiosity killed the cat

Well I've no read all your posts tone, but all I've read you suggesting is capping plates.

So what's going on behind the scenes?

What are the SNP proposing?

Why isn't the SNP at Holyrood getting on with a new taxi act, after all they're busy doing..er..bugger all!!

Remember, politicians are good at promising the earth and then delivering nothing.

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Oh aye, and isn't it a Tory in charge of licensing?

Remember that the last Tory deregged.

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So where did I say everyone one was better off?

All I said was that with the town capped you get people sitting on their backside milking drivers, so you say it's bad yet you want to make it worse for some drivers?

Did you think the trade would just ride out the recession and no one would notice?

So the guys who are worse off with their own plate can go back to renting if they want, that's their choice, but I think most of them will stay as they are, the full-timers at least.

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So if you are not saying everyone’s better off & we are all worse off, that reply flies in the face of your stance on de-regulation and the city staying open.

I think everyone sitting on their rear end milking drivers is a bit of an exaggeration, in my 30 + Years in the job I have worked out of Tele taxis, Radio taxis, Tofthill taxis, Handy taxis, Mitchell taxis & a short spell on the street, and in that time 95% of the operators either worked their car dayshift or nightshift that to me doesn’t sound anything like the impression you are portraying of every operator sitting raking it in.

Stay as they are what choice do they have, most of them have 30k’s worth of debt that something you Just don’t walk away from once you’ve signed the finance agreement, once you’ve signed it you’re stuck with it. And then you make out we can all go back to being a driver, sure we can, lets now go back with the city open being a driver now with the prospect of earning half of what we earned as a driver before they de-regulated.

These people don’t have that luxury, they’ve made their bed and now they’ve got live in their overpriced 30k piece of sh*t.

I'm not saying what we had before was a perfect set up but everyone was far better off before the council followed the path we have to abide by now.

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http://www.oqps.gov.uk/legislation/ssi/ ... 02568_en_1

DTA private investigators report is still being dealt with by the police

The ombudsman is also investigating the old labour administration concerning an ongoing ph situation

The following were things that the trade hade asked for

1only licence holders are allowed to sit on the liaison committee

2 Street test was made harder

3 Disclosure scotland checks were introduced

4 We are getting a new Cabs officer,the old one going back onthe beat.

5 Cabs officers are now working shifts

Seems like 5 points that I know have came to fruition

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Watch out curiosity killed the cat

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Well there's winners and losers, but what I'm saying is that with the economy the way it is we're all losers, and there's nae point milking some drivers to line the pockets of others, especially if they're sitting on their backsides bragging about how their making money off the backs of others.



Exeggerate, moi?

What I said was that PEOPLE were milking drivers, which could mean any number from two upwards, so you're grossly exaggerating when you claim I said EVERYONE was sitting on their rear end milking drivers.

And in another thread recently you said there was a list of about 160 hired plates, so I think you're just changing your story to whatever suits the argument you're making at the time.



Aye, but most of the agreements will have been taken out a couple of years ago at least?

You can hand the car back after a couple of years and that's the agreement closed.



I'm not saying it's easy, but capping the town would just make it worse except for the parasites.



But we'd all be worse off with the recession cap or no cap, I think the real reason for your change of mind is that you've now got a plate.

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Well that's been in the pipeline for at least ten years.



Care to PM me a copy?



Wouldnae mind seeing that either




So what's the point of that?



Aye, and noo it's being made easier again Certainly a good move beefing it up though, but lots of ops moaning that they cannae get the drivers - boo hoo!



That's good as well, but what's the difference with the old police checks?



Fine, if it improves enforcement.



Ditto.

I'm no saying that there's no progress at all, but that's hardly going to turn the trade upside down.

I mean, even if Fat Sam's central was closed down, it's hardly going to make you rich?

What are you trying to achieve regarding 203020?

PM me if you don't want to say in public

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I do not have access to these documents but it is common knowledge that they exist

I do not have a problem making my feelings clear on the way 203020 are run.They do not abide by the conditions of there licence and this is a real bear bug of mine .I also think that they are trying to beat the system when i and the majority of the trade just want the system to work.

And i would agree that by closing fat sams central down would not make me rich but it would stop them from breaking there licence conditions by illegally plying for hire.And you may not believe this but i think phv illegally plying for hire is a real safety issues.

The one thing i would say in Mr Young's defence is that he does go out and get the work something other offices don't do and if he he was to run his office in a less intimidating way and abide by the licence conditions he would be better thought of.

Fair enough tone, but any problem with license conditions and 203020 are surely not worth bothering about compared to hire plates?

I mean, hire plate cars are operating illegally 24/7/365 and have been for years and there's lots of them.

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