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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:49 am 
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350 I ok then :roll: there was an exclusive at 270 that people thought was to much.. get back to your calculations..and ali I have balls o steel thanks ..espescially when under threat...

Even if I take your lowest figure it still works out cheaper to buy/run a brand new TX4 than to rent one.
It is Always cheaper to buy because if everyone rented off a leasing company, they would always add on running costs & their profit margin, & VAT on top of it all. In the real world companies charge twice as much as the most expensive Plate Baron.


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:56 am 
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No more stupid than the boys that back dereg and then find that they can't make more than50 quid on a saturday night !


According to you. Where did you glean this wonderful piece of foresight?



That's not wonderful, it is foresight though.

As this one is still raging I'd like to add this, I sense the pro squad are PH and also PH that's never driven HC, so how on earth can anyone comment on something they have no real knowledge of, i know what the real problem is and why you are so desperate to get a HC plate, it's because you know you are being shafted by the PH firm you work for and think it's an escape route from 6k of radio charges and shifts, and it will be if you buy in, if you hope for a free one recognise that you won't be the only one, and quality control means nothing, all the best will in the world won't prevent back door tactics which will result in flooding, all that will happen for you guys is this, you'll be 40k in debt including interest for the next 5 years, you'll be lucky to take £25 per night weekdays and £100 on the weekend nights if you are lucky, all in all you will be able to kiss your credit profile goodbye and maybe even your house if it gets that bad, take a tip from someone whose been there, seen it and done it, and should it get to the stage ever again that plates are free issue again I will be manning my car 24/7 with drivers just to make it all the harder for those who come in with their milestone WAV's.


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it really is the height of desperation to to try and make out that renting and owning are comparable in any way.

if you own the price can be anything you want from peanuts to top drawer prices,depends what you want.

but never can even the dearest purchase come close to that of a rental.

but most important is the choice factor.
the guy who owns can choose to regulate his expenditure as he so pleases.
the guy who rents has no controls and despite his earnings dropping can find his expenditure going up instead of down.
and if he doesnt like it he can go jump,as we have all been shown by the edinburgh owners who come on here.


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:05 am 
Sussex wrote:
dug wrote:
350 I ok then :roll: there was an exclusive at 270 that people thought was to much.. get back to your calculations..and ali I have balls o steel thanks ..espescially when under threat...

Even if I take your lowest figure it still works out cheaper to buy/run a brand new TX4 than to rent one.



Right up to the point that it needs a new engine, and they do break early I can assure you, add in all the other bits and pieces that regularly go on them, I'd be suprised if a TX owner gets any change out of 2k pa on repairs, so add £40pw to the total to be realistic, btw a TX is £700 pm right now, my mate has just renewed his one, because the engine was shot on 80k, £700 pm for 5 years, nooooo thx.


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:18 am 
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yep heard all that before


thing is if youre freind cant make the right choices when it comes to vehicles then he prob shouldnt be in the business.

i am sorry but running a vehicle logistics business(taxi) :lol: ,in my opinion should mean that the owner should have a t least some knowledge of vehicles.
from prices to mechanics.

the less knowledge he has then the more knowledgable ppl will simply rip him/her off.
its my opinion that the majority of owners here in edinburgh dont have a clue how to run there business,their costs are through the roof.

£700pm for the vehicle :lol: :lol:
utter lunacy


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:24 am 
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yep heard all that before


thing is if youre freind cant make the right choices when it comes to vehicles then he prob shouldnt be in the business.

i am sorry but running a vehicle logistics business(taxi) :lol: ,in my opinion should mean that the owner should have a t least some knowledge of vehicles.
from prices to mechanics.

the less knowledge he has then the more knowledgable ppl will simply rip him/her off.
its my opinion that the majority of owners here in edinburgh dont have a clue how to run there business,their costs are through the roof.

£700pm for the vehicle :lol: :lol:
utter lunacy




He made the official choice bud, a TX is the best recognised taxi in the world, the bottom line is they are a pile, best marketing in the business, shoddy product for BMW exec money, and £700 pm is the going rate for a 33k vehicle, it's not a mug you figure, it's the correct figure, and pound for pound an E7 is no better due to it being a Pug van with the build quality of a Trabant, plus you'll need 2 of them in a 10 yr life cycle, it shows out how good they are that the rear door hinges rust within a year, and the sliding side doors come off their runners as soon as someone shuts it a wee bit too hard.


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agreed
thats why you shouldnt part with youre hard earned for the the shiny new toy.

tx1 although getting a bit rusty now

metrocab 3 series to the ttt.

ttt has a great engine that is even better than the nissan tx.
and the added bonus of no rust.

and you can pick them all up for next to nothin.

i paid £800 for my old metro 99 plate and never had a bit of bother with it.
not flash and not fast but it made the same money as the £700 pm brigade.
these guys need a reality check


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:37 am 
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agreed
thats why you shouldnt part with youre hard earned for the the shiny new toy.

tx1 although getting a bit rusty now

metrocab 3 series to the ttt.

ttt has a great engine that is even better than the nissan tx.
and the added bonus of no rust.

and you can pick them all up for next to nothin.

i paid £800 for my old metro 99 plate and never had a bit of bother with it.
not flash and not fast but it made the same money as the £700 pm brigade.
these guys need a reality check



Can't licence a car that old mate, iirc it must be under 5 years old for a WAV with a max life of 12 years from new.

This kinda explains our difference of opinion, you seem to be able to run about in disposable equipment, others however cannot, and that's where the risk is, anyway, why would you want more competition in a shrinking market anyway, it doesn't add up.


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Doom wrote:
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agreed
thats why you shouldnt part with youre hard earned for the the shiny new toy.

tx1 although getting a bit rusty now

metrocab 3 series to the ttt.

ttt has a great engine that is even better than the nissan tx.
and the added bonus of no rust.

and you can pick them all up for next to nothin.

i paid £800 for my old metro 99 plate and never had a bit of bother with it.
not flash and not fast but it made the same money as the £700 pm brigade.
these guys need a reality check



Can't licence a car that old mate, iirc it must be under 5 years old for a WAV with a max life of 12 years from new.

This kinda explains our difference of opinion, you seem to be able to run about in disposable equipment, others however cannot, and that's where the risk is, anyway, why would you want more competition in a shrinking market anyway, it doesn't add up.

youve got that wrong its you thats running about in disposable equipment.
having to throw away a perfectly good vehicle becouse its 5 years old.

if it meets the safety standards then whats the problem???

the edinburgh test is the higher standard mot,it aint easy to get past.

as for wanting more competition.
yes the market is shrinking .
rentals however are not.
the drivers must have choice,and the chance to run there own vehicles.


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:54 am 
ALI T wrote:
Doom wrote:
ALI T wrote:
agreed
thats why you shouldnt part with youre hard earned for the the shiny new toy.

tx1 although getting a bit rusty now

metrocab 3 series to the ttt.

ttt has a great engine that is even better than the nissan tx.
and the added bonus of no rust.

and you can pick them all up for next to nothin.

i paid £800 for my old metro 99 plate and never had a bit of bother with it.
not flash and not fast but it made the same money as the £700 pm brigade.
these guys need a reality check



Can't licence a car that old mate, iirc it must be under 5 years old for a WAV with a max life of 12 years from new.

This kinda explains our difference of opinion, you seem to be able to run about in disposable equipment, others however cannot, and that's where the risk is, anyway, why would you want more competition in a shrinking market anyway, it doesn't add up.

youve got that wrong its you thats running about in disposable equipment.
having to throw away a perfectly good vehicle becouse its 5 years old.

if it meets the safety standards then whats the problem???

the edinburgh test is the higher standard mot,it aint easy to get past.

as for wanting more competition.
yes the market is shrinking .
rentals however are not.
the drivers must have choice,and the chance to run there own vehicles.



I mean, if you had to get out, you could just walk from it and say np, personally I normally buy a 2 yr old car and replace it 30 mths later, I feel a car gets tatty and becomes a liability in the reliability stakes after a while, and tbh old cars opens doors to more drivers, so in the name of being able to earn a living to pay a bit more for a newish car makes sense to keep the Cortina driver out, I see some right sheds otr, cars that are 7 years old and done 300k, plus with your car you must be spending a fair bit each year to keep it legal, our experience of Metrocabs is new suspension annually at the very least.

Some owners here have dropped the payin, some lads have full time cars for around £240 pw, but then again we have a mediocre tariff and a PH firm that charges bus fare, they have a fare rise about once evey three years of 10p with a raise in radio of about £15pw, go figure why they'd all like to escape onto the rank and spend half the night theiving off the road and charging 30% more than my meter, I hear horror stories all the time, ppl being charged £35 for a £20 ride, I suppose you can get away with it if there's no meter to say otherwise, but it's bad for the trade, me personally if a driver tried to charge me like that I'd laugh at him and refuse to pay, if he wanted to make something of it which he probably wouldn't that would be his choice to explain why he tried to rip me off, even better if he hit me as well, bye bye badge.


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:25 am 
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I mean, if you had to get out, you could just walk from it and say np, personally I normally buy a 2 yr old car and replace it 30 mths later, I feel a car gets tatty and becomes a liability in the reliability stakes after a while, and tbh old cars opens doors to more drivers, so in the name of being able to earn a living to pay a bit more for a newish car makes sense to keep the Cortina driver out, I see some right sheds otr, cars that are 7 years old and done 300k, plus with your car you must be spending a fair bit each year to keep it legal, our experience of Metrocabs is new suspension annually at the very least.

Some owners here have dropped the payin, some lads have full time cars for around £240 pw, but then again we have a mediocre tariff and a PH firm that charges bus fare, they have a fare rise about once evey three years of 10p with a raise in radio of about £15pw, go figure why they'd all like to escape onto the rank and spend half the night theiving off the road and charging 30% more than my meter, I hear horror stories all the time, ppl being charged £35 for a £20 ride, I suppose you can get away with it if there's no meter to say otherwise, but it's bad for the trade, me personally if a driver tried to charge me like that I'd laugh at him and refuse to pay, if he wanted to make something of it which he probably wouldn't that would be his choice to explain why he tried to rip me off, even better if he hit me as well, bye bye badge.

you feel a car gets tatty.
never bring emotion into it.
if it works it works if the price is right its right.
no emotional attachment from mei drive a cab im not a cabbie.
the maintinence on my cab was very low i think i spent around £500.pa
off the top of my head,front shockers are a problem only if you neglected to grease them.
i replaced one at a cost of £40 hardly breaking the bank.
ttt have the same suspension as fairway tx .
very simple and very cheap.
trany engine in the 3 series although sluggish was built for the long haul and simple to work on.
ttt was i bit more complex,but far more powerfull.

you say that the higher vehicle standards keeps the cheaper cars out.i can see where youre coming from,i take it you have no knowledge test.
or one thats so easy its not worth having.


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:38 am 
Yeah, I don't think it's right to charge good money and have old equipment personally, plus I hate driving a bucket that sounds like Cozy Powell on a bad day.

Test, we have one, it's a reasonable one, but non English speaking ppl are passing it so what does that say as far as quality control goes.


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yeah well its all down to personall choice or lack of choice depending if you live in a restricted la or not.

the added competition of derestriction and the fact that no rental income would come in from youre cab,would! i believe! make you look at youre costs with a little more realism.


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yeah well its all down to personall choice or lack of choice depending if you live in a restricted la or not.

the added competition of derestriction and the fact that no rental income would come in from youre cab,would! i believe! make you look at youre costs with a little more realism.


Why would there be no rental income from the a cab :?

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yeah well its all down to personall choice or lack of choice depending if you live in a restricted la or not.

the added competition of derestriction and the fact that no rental income would come in from youre cab,would! i believe! make you look at youre costs with a little more realism.


Why would there be no rental income from the a cab :?


Who would someone pay £1000+ per month for a shift on someone elses motor, if the can have their own 24/7 for considerably less? Unless they had no choice.

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