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My son emailed the following blogs from a forum dealing with the Peugeot Expert Tepee Eurobus / E7; not the best advert for the vehicle nor Cab Direct by any stretch of the imagination. They seem to have a few common faults, with the most usual being front anti-roll bar & bushes, & dual mass flywheel coming loose.

By the way ..... WTF is a dual mass flywheel & why are they fitted as opposed to a standard flywheel?

Anyone else had similar problems with this model? I have also heard that brake pads wear extremely quickly too.

Peugeot Expert Tepee Tepee Eurobus 2007

I have had my Peugeot since August 2007, the only thing I can say about it is what a peice of rubbish. Problems started within two weeks. In the last 2 years it has had 2 front anti roll bars, waiting for the third now, 5 sets of discs, lost track of brake pads, rear bushes are on the way, out clutch has been replaced, starter motor replaced, ECU went wrong, side doors stick, front tire wear is unbelievable. I spoke to Cab Direct who sold me the vehicle and they weren’t interested, the warranty is a waste of time and as for Peugeot you might as well bang your head against a brick wall; it would be less painful than trying to get anywhere with Cab Direct or Peugeot. As for the modified anti roll bar, my local dealer has never heard of it.

Peugeot Expert 2008

I purchased it 18mths ago I have extended warranty on it a Peugeot one and an AMG one as I use it as a taxi the clutch has only a 20000 mile warranty which was replaced in last two weeks a flywheel replaced last two weeks; a wishbone and ball joint replaced in last week; a starter replaced in last week and is now back in garage due to loss of power in battery. Only my starter under warranty. I have had to bump start my taxi every time I turn off ignition since starter replaced; it is a nightmare. Anyone with same problem?

Peugeot Expert Tepee Taxi 2008

Hi, I have only had my taxi since December 08 with 17,000 miles only. The dealer replaced the fly wheel and clutch and within 18hrs it came adrift and wrecked the gearbox. It has taken 3 weeks for someone to take responsibility for it and I have not earned a penny in that time. Can you help me and point me in the right way to get compensation. Thank you; you can contact me at robson.derek AT sky.com

Peugeot Expert Tepee 2ltr 8 seat comfort lwb 2007

Update to previous: car failed to start last Sunday morning, I thought maybe the key had lost its code. I tried the spare on the Monday, still no good, tried jumping, no good. I called the breakdown service who managed to get it started by shorting the terminals of the starter with a penny. I left it with main dealer to look into and also the grinding/knocking from the clutch which they aid was likely to be clutch bearing. Well... the grinding is the dual mass fly wheel, luckily still on warranty or I would be looking at £1000 to fix it. The starting was a fuse!!!!!! I have to say I have lost all faith in this car, in the 7 months I have had it, it has been in the main dealer 7 times for faults. It’s on 48k now I got it on 22k - I am shaking just thinking about the next 30k. I cannot recommend this car anymore to much has gone wrong. Peugeot, you have built a pile of, well you know what...

Peugeot Expert Tepee expert e7 2008

I have a new E7, bought in 2008. I have had many problems with the clutch. Peugeot replaced the clutch twice but I am still not satisfied, as the gear is still not running smoothly. I have had a problem with the anti roll bar brushes. I have no faith in Peugeot dealership to correct the ongoing problem. Peugeot Garages within my town have been very unhelpful. I have lost valuable time due to this problem. I have also found that a lot of my colleagues in Leicester with this vehicle have had the same problem and have had their clutches replaced twice in one year.

Peugeot Expert Tepee 2ltr 8 seat comfort lwb 2007

An update to my previous entry. Since last writing I have had both the anti roll link bars done at 30000, rear discs and pads at 33000 plus both sliding door windows replaced due to water leakage. I still have creaking and knocking from the rear, any thoughts? Still a good drive though, I have to say I still prefer the 806 which has done 175000 (reckon its done more like 275000) and is still going strong. Anyone know how I can stretch it to get more luggage in? Also, I can’t believe a 2007 engine that cant run on biofuel!!!!!!!

Peugeot Expert Tepee 2007

I use the E7 as a hackney carriage. The vehicle is beautiful to drive, but all is not good. All the NEW E7 drivers have had similar trouble. The anti-rollbar and links have been replaced under warranty. The dual mass flywheel develops play and needs replacing. Please note if you notice clutch judder when vehicle is warm. Please visit dealer as soon as possible, because if you go over 20,000 miles the dealer will insist on replacing the clutch as well. They will tell you to pay for the clutch (clutch warranty 20,000m) and Peugeot will reimburse you. Don’t fall for it - they will not. Insist the clutch not be replaced as its not worn out yet, or let them replace the clutch, but don’t part with any money. THE FLYWHEEL IS FAULTY, NOT THE CLUTCH. MY LOCAL DEALER IS THE WORST GARAGE I HAVE DEALT WITH IN OVER 18 YEARS. PEUGEOT H.Q AREN’T MUCH BETTER. TRY GETTING EVERYTHING IN WRITING.

Peugeot Expert Tepee 2007

My taxi is going in for it’s 48000 service and the 4th front suspension refit (antiroll bar and bits). Each time they argue it’s not covered under warranty, then after phone calls, they repair for free. I hope they have found a cure, I’m about to get rid of mine, I paid a lot of of money for my work tool, did not expect this kind of treatment from the manufacturer...

Peugeot Expert Tepee 9 seater 2007

The Peugeot Tepee has a common fault - I’ve had my anti-roll bar replaced after just 28000 miles - it was knocking - and so have all the taxi drivers who bought E7s. The good news is the guys at Peugeot have modified the anti-roll bar.

Peugeot Expert Tepee comfort l2 2008

I to am getting a lot of noise from the rear and when going over rough ground it sounds like the suspension is knocking on the front. Changing the headlight bulbs is an absolute nightmare when doing it for the first time, just not enough hand space. The side light was easy to get out but there is only room for 2 fingers to get the bulb back in. I managed to push the holder in to the light assembly - 20 minutes to get it out. I would like to be able to switch the seat belt warning alarm off. I have an issue with the single folding seat being on the drivers side because, as a taxi driver it means the rear passengers getting out on to the road. other than that a good car, spacious and comfortable (not as comfy as the 806 I have). I have recorded 31mpg doing local work and recorded 40mph to Southampton and back from Middlesbrough. It looks good and certainly catches the eye. I have the 8 seat model, although on the log book it’s a 9 seater. Peugeot tell me it will cost about 2k for the twin front seat. I have not had it serviced yet as it’s only been working since November and I have only covered 10k miles. Does anyone have the correct tracking setting for this car?

Peugeot Expert Tepee E7 se longwheelbase 2007

Having similar problem with E7 SE, creaking noise coming from offside area after about 4,000 miles or 2 months. Peugeot dealer renewed track rod arm and still problem so they then said it was a problem with lubrication on suspension. The dealer did that and still problem exists. Vehicle has now done 12,000 miles and dealer has ordered suspension unit; waiting for delivery of same. Will let you know if this cures problem.

Peugeot Expert Tepee Taxi E7 (MPV) 2007

Could anybody tell me why anti roll bar (d bushs) bushs are collapsing after twelve thousand miles. Have waited three months for problems with vibrations and noise to be sorted out? Also how many taller drivers have difficulty with seat position, seat swab not long enough? Any else with a problem, I would like to know, as Peugeot UK very quiet

Peugeot Expert Tepee LWB 2.0 Leisure 8 seater 2007

What a beast, I love our new Tepee. We had ordered a brand new one, but due to manufacturing delays decided to go with a second hand one, which incidentally was near impossible to find. So much room for all our family and all the luggage that goes with us. Extremely comfortable, plenty of width and leg room. Driving our Tepee is super not one iota like a van. All the adjustments that can be made to the driving position make it so comfortable too. Although filling it up with diesel for the first time was a bit of a shock (£85.00), the MPG is around 32 and that is all short journeys taxiing the children around. I recommend the Tepee to anybody that will listen! For a family it is the must have mode of transport that puts all the others in the dark.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
By the way ..... WTF is a dual mass flywheel & why are they fitted as opposed to a standard flywheel?

To take some of the pressure off when one starts a diesel. TBH it's all bollocks, and I would recommend when folks change their clutch to fit a blank flywheel back.

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dual mass flywheel

instead of a good old fashioned solid/1 piece flywheel a DUAL mass is in two bits seperated by springs

this is because modern engines are Hi-Torque and (in theory) without a DMF the torque can shag drive components like CV joints, gearboxes and diffs

cost about £500 with a clutch (you dont change a clutch and not the DMF, just in case that goes next) and its not uncommon for the slave cylinder to get destroyed when a DMF goes and the metal bits can sghg the starter motor too

solid replacements can cause viBBBBBBBrations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnaXB8q3uzQ

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What did I say about FRENCH vehicles not long ago?...

oh yeah

CRAP

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wannabeeahack wrote:
dual mass flywheel

instead of a good old fashioned solid/1 piece flywheel a DUAL mass is in two bits seperated by springs

this is because modern engines are Hi-Torque and (in theory) without a DMF the torque can shag drive components like CV joints, gearboxes and diffs

cost about £500 with a clutch (you dont change a clutch and not the DMF, just in case that goes next) and its not uncommon for the slave cylinder to get destroyed when a DMF goes and the metal bits can sghg the starter motor too

solid replacements can cause viBBBBBBBrations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnaXB8q3uzQ


Just fitted a single mass kit to my VW Sharan 10k ago.
No vibration and no problems so far.......

Clutch pedal is lighter on the foot as well :lol:

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wannabeeahack wrote:
solid replacements can cause viBBBBBBBrations

I replaced a clutch with a clutch and solid flywheel, and I never noticed a bit of difference.

Other than not having to worry about the dual mass breaking up.

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This allows you to visualise it a little better...

Dual-mass flywheel

You see the drive being transferred and buffered through the springs. I suppose the idea works OK for a time but looking at it you can see the points of failure.


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Like all these "good ideas" its the car owning public who end up paying once out of warranty

cambelts are another, arent vauxhall and ford heading back to chains?

who else?

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Saltmarket wrote:
This allows you to visualise it a little better...

Dual-mass flywheel

You see the drive being transferred and buffered through the springs. I suppose the idea works OK for a time but looking at it you can see the points of failure.

Thanks for that Mr Saltmarket ..... very useful animation. The text at the side is even in Polish, so I can get that translated too.

But what a load of crap though; invented to inflate repair bill without any significant benefit to the vehicle owner.

Thanks to all the other replies too ..... at least I now know it can be replaced for a standard flywheel after the warranrt period.

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ffs.....peugeot make mistakes??????

jeez whatever next....door handles that come off in the passengers hand, or warrenty's that arent worth the paper their written on?

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Saltmarket wrote:
This allows you to visualise it a little better...

Dual-mass flywheel

You see the drive being transferred and buffered through the springs. I suppose the idea works OK for a time but looking at it you can see the points of failure.

Thanks for that Mr Saltmarket ..... very useful animation. The text at the side is even in Polish, so I can get that translated too.

But what a load of crap though; invented to inflate repair bill without any significant benefit. to the vehicle owner.

Thanks to all the other replies too ..... at least I now know it can be replaced for a standard flywheel after the warranrt period.
The downside is... that the gear boxes tend to wear out after the conversion.... and also they have problems with the front crankshaft pulley..... and they always seem to be out of stock.

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The downside is... that the gear boxes tend to wear out after the conversion.... and also they have problems with the front crankshaft pulley..... and they always seem to be out of stock.


Good.....and the pensioners hate them and prefer private cars.....and of course free buses.

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MR T wrote:
The downside is... that the gear boxes tend to wear out after the conversion.... and also they have problems with the front crankshaft pulley..... and they always seem to be out of stock.

Good.....and the pensioners hate them and prefer private cars.....and of course free buses.

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Although made in jest, that's a quite serious point for the cab trade.

Considering they are now saying that half of teenagers today (I think that was the age group, I may be wrong) will live to be 100 & the percentage of aged people in our population is increasing all the time, WAVs with low seating will probably become the norm in our trade in many years to come.

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MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Saltmarket wrote:
This allows you to visualise it a little better...

Dual-mass flywheel

You see the drive being transferred and buffered through the springs. I suppose the idea works OK for a time but looking at it you can see the points of failure.

Thanks for that Mr Saltmarket ..... very useful animation. The text at the side is even in Polish, so I can get that translated too.

But what a load of crap though; invented to inflate repair bill without any significant benefit. to the vehicle owner.

Thanks to all the other replies too ..... at least I now know it can be replaced for a standard flywheel after the warranrt period.

The downside is... that the gear boxes tend to wear out after the conversion.... and also they have problems with the front crankshaft pulley..... and they always seem to be out of stock.

Why the front crankshaft pulley??

That's a strange fault, or is this a p*ss take too?

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wannabeeahack wrote:
solid replacements can cause viBBBBBBBrations

I replaced a clutch with a clutch and solid flywheel, and I never noticed a bit of difference.

Other than not having to worry about the dual mass breaking up.


Haven't FORD stopped fitting them to their new Mondeo's, I'm sure when I had my clutch done in November last year they fitted a solid flywheel.


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