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Correct, so long as joe would have been in the same boat if Jill phoned first, it's still equality. Even if the service is equally crap.

No, so long as Jill isn't late because the vehicles available can't accomodate her disability.



No. You have to treat them exactly the same way. Jill is just as entitled to be late as Joe. Just not more so because of her disability.

The time for debate on this is over, if there ever was a debate on it.
The government are going to legislate whether we like it or not. This legislation will run many of us over like a steamroller.

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Watch out for that steamroller skip

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Heres the rub...we have just as many disabled per head of population as anywhere in britain does...but in a city that has say 10,000 Taxis and half of them are WAVs that means that at any given time you have a surplus of WAVs working away as normal Taxis. therefore you will always have a large number of WAVs available

now..even if every disabled user requested a WAV at the same time from that WAV fleet of 5000 you will still have some 4500 Wavs working away but unrequired by the wheelchair user, all in approximately the right area just in case theyre needed

Ok..here we have a vaste area with say 150 vehicles because thats all the Taxis the area will support financially...and even if every one of those Vehicles were a WAV it wouldnt help much because not all these Vehicles will be working at any given time and add to that those that are being used by the abled body then you end up with just a half a dozen vehicles spare in the whole of the region...now..if every wheelchair user required a WAV at the same time then those half a dozen WAVs would never be able to keep up with demand.

Thats why it appears that we fail to service the needs of the disabled, but because we do not have the large numbers or high concentration of vehicles in general that the citys do it follows suit that some wheelchair users would have to wait.


My argument is that it might work a treat on a large scale but it doesnt work so well on a small scale...

Heres an example:

If own 2 pens and break one im left with one usable pen to use and none to spare...yet if i owned 100 pens and broke 5 I'd have one to use myself and 94 spare ones...so if someone else needed a pen i could lend them one and still have 93 spare..but as I dont have enough work or money to merit owning 100 pens I own just the 2.

its not rocket science...nor is it beligerence..its just a matter of scale..

Same thing used to happen here 15 years ago.
I take it you see nothing wrong with the above scenario?

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As I said, you just don't get it.

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I do get it and I do appreciate your views, but im also entitled to mine and unless your here you wont see things from our viewpoint and all im saying is what works for some doesnt always work for another..and I hope the people with the final say see that.

Oh...and just maybe in this emmissions hating world will the powers at be realise the folly of using thirstier WAVs when im most instances a more environmentally friendly saloon is a kinder option...tis a fine balance indeed..appease the disabilty groups or appease the save the planet groups...

Ask any taxi or PH driver if he wants to spend an extra £20 -30K on a WAV and most will say no.
The powers that be don't care what you, me, skippy or any other driver think. They will impose this whether we like it or not.

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I will use your analogy about pens in the following post. PLEASE don’t take it the wrong way; that’s not my intention Mr Bloodnock.

From a taxi driver's viewpoint, you’re right.

But from the government's viewpoint you’re wrong & they pass the legislation not us.

The way they view it is like this;

You have two pens, one writes in red ink & the other writes in green ink. You never use either of the pens yourself; ever, never.

Instead you have a pen hiring business & hire those pens out to the population of your hamlet, village, town, city, metropolis, whatever.

Everyone you hire to except, Mandy, Gertrude, Bill, Jimmy, Fred & Margot, doesn’t mind which pen they hire from you; they don’t mind if they write their letters in either colour.

However, Mandy, Gertrude, Bill, Jimmy, Fred & Margot (hereinafter called the six greens), will only hire a pen that writes in green ink from you. They belong to the Green Party & wish to only write letters in green.

Now, your green pen nib breaks whilst on hire, ‘cause some negligent Green Party member drops it.

The rest of the people that you hire to can still carry on hiring a pen from you, albeit that it will write in red.

But, the six greens are now stuffed because the only pen they wish to use (or indeed can use for DDA purposes) is ‘nibless’.

So what the government now seem to want to legislate for, is that all your pens must have the ability to write in both green & red, so that the supply of pens to the six greens is the same as to the rest of the population & they, the six greens, are not disadvantaged.

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im in full agreement..they dont give a hoot about us.

But Id rather go down fighting than just blindly obey..either way..if i have to conform I will..maybe..

Rightly or wrongly that's indeed the way it is, and the place the DDA has ended up at.

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Seems like the option here is that I spend £20,000 to £30,000 for a vehicle that I cant afford and which will never make enough to pay for itself and nor will it allow me to earn a crust at the same time...or I just sell up the perfectly good Vehicles I have and just go sign on the dole...either way Id end up with roughly the same weekly disposable income, but if i chose the latter option I can get up when I want, avoid all my current bookwork, avoid all the late night working, avoid all the worry about what next daft idea that the government will come up with..such as allowing you to maintain all this expensive equality machinery from a maximum working week of 39 hours driving time..

all in all the latter dole option has a certain appeal...Id be better off not working and let the state look after me...just like so many others in ths wonderful island of ours do.

Now you've got it

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So if I bring my wheelchair Bound friend to Galashiels for a night out, will we be able to join the happy throng on the rank, queue up, and when we get to the front of the queue, will we be able to get a WAV hackney to take us to our hotel, available for IMMEDIATE hire?

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They dont queue here you just go to the wav or any saloon or mpv you want, even if its in tescos staff car park 100 yards away, waiting to get on the rank

Youve never been to Galashiels huh!!