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Great post Mr Doom; have you any Churchillian blood in you?


This is the fourth recession I can remember, with the one in the mid-1970's by far the worst for me; worse than the present one so far.

And according to the link below the last recession was also caused by the Yanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_re ... ed_Kingdom


There me thinking Enoc Powels soap box was dead :lol: :lol:


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Your post had me captivated right up till the last paragraph, then I fell about laughing at just how unworkable your vision is.



Probably so, but something has to change in the way we go about things doesn't it, idle ppl are bored ppl and become criminal ppl in the end, benefits can't go on at this rate, there's more going out than can be possibly being paid in, Europe seems to see us as the only ones who should pay all the time, and kids need to know they are accountable.

I'm glad you enjoyed the rest of it though.


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Great post Mr Doom; have you any Churchillian blood in you?


This is the fourth recession I can remember, with the one in the mid-1970's by far the worst for me; worse than the present one so far.

And according to the link below the last recession was also caused by the Yanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_re ... ed_Kingdom


There me thinking Enoc Powels soap box was dead :lol: :lol:



The wiki is wrong, it states the 90's one as 2 years, I know for a fact I bought a flat in 89 that cost me 47k and by mid 91 it was worth 35k, it didn't get back to 47k until at least 97 and work was horrendous from 91-97, mine are real figures btw, not some spread sheet based on ICI getting a huge contract in 92 and the figures of recovery being based on that in the same way that the average wage is supposed to be £900pw based on including Paul McCartney and David Beckham's wages along with old Mo the bog cleaners £63.86pw.


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when was the 3 day week, who was in charge then?


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when was the 3 day week, who was in charge then?


It was in 1973/4 I was on it, but I managed to get the full week in due to the job i was doing


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when was the 3 day week, who was in charge then?


It was in 1973/4 I was on it, but I managed to get the full week in due to the job i was doing
Jesus! I was born in 74 so maybe I should be grateful for that recession and the three day working week.


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that was the first pit strike, pre-1985, i was just into my apprenticeship

no, tell a lie, that was 1972 i think

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Coal miners walked out at midnight in their first national strike for almost 50 years.

Three months of negotiations with the National Coal Board ended in deadlock four days ago with an offer of 7.9% on the table and the promise of a backdated deal for an increase in productivity.

The 280,000 mineworkers signalled their determination to break the Government's unofficial eight per cent pay ceiling by refusing to put the offer to the vote.

They are looking for an increase of up to £9 a week - on an average take home wage of £25.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/date ... 515917.stm


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wannabeeahack wrote:
when was the 3 day week, who was in charge then?


It was in 1973/4 I was on it, but I managed to get the full week in due to the job i was doing
Jesus! I was born in 74 so maybe I should be grateful for that recession and the three day working week.


73 was the fuel crisis year........cars limited to 50 mph...thats if you could find petrol..

Power cuts too if i remember rightly..or was that 72, i can remember as the lowly apprentice mechanic being given the job to go crank up the old crank handled generator engine to get the lights running..

Those were the days of truly militant unionists...nowt like these modern amateurs..


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Red robbo
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always up for a strike to cost you money and wreck the industries


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It's bad out there ppl but its been worse! 70;s & 80's short time working, redundancies running down of state run industries mega unemployment. Please put things into prospective!


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The 3 day week was in about 1973. Ted Heath, the conservative prime minister, was up against striking miners and power workers. Electricity rationing lead to the power being switched off in alternate areas for, if I remember, about 4 hours at a time. Our office would go off but you knew when you were to be switched on again. We still continued to try to work our normal hours as an Estate Agents. A lot of industry was on short time, 3 day a week, working.

At the same time, there was something of an oil crisis, following various upsets with the Israelis. OPEC were restricting oil production and jacking the price up. Petrol supplies became short and you were restricted to, IIRC, £10 per visit. This resulted in long queues at filling stations that had supplies. Eventually, the government prepared the way for petrol rationing by issuing ration coupons against each vehicle log book. I was able to get additional coupons because my vehicle was used for business. I forget what the 'value' of the coupons was intended to be but, thankfully, we didn't get to the point of having to use them.

I forget the precise political manouvreings at the time but it lead to the return of a Labour government headed by Harold Wilson who was subsequently replaced by James Callaghan. Eventually, the winter of discontent in 1978/9 was the downfall of Labour and cleared the stage for one of the best prime ministers this country ever had. Good housekeeping resulting in sound economic stability, once the labour spending mess had been sorted out.

I get a definite feeling of deja vu in the current climate.


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look guys, the fact is NO goverment is there for OUR benefit, its only to provide a bloody good job and income for the 600+ MPs (and wives, and kids, etc)

the sooner you realise they are all cast in the same mould and frankly dont give a sh.ite about you and me (once theyve got voted in) then the sooner you will achieve nirvana

ive a new approach

what 1 goverment body robs off me, i rob off another

result? - perfect balance


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wannabeeahack wrote:
look guys, the fact is NO goverment is there for OUR benefit, its only to provide a bloody good job and income for the 600+ MPs (and wives, and kids, etc)

the sooner you realise they are all cast in the same mould and frankly dont give a sh.ite about you and me (once theyve got voted in) then the sooner you will achieve nirvana

ive a new approach

what 1 goverment body robs off me, i rob off another

result? - perfect balance


ohhhhhhhh..its not so bad, we might have that nice Mr Blair controlling us soon as the new President of the EU..now I dont know about you but I find that so very comforting, it means that the UK MPs we have will be purely ceremonial..add to that the benefits brought about because we won't need think for ouselves ever again because the EU will know best whats good for us.

We will all be equals and if a naughty person should disagree with the EU vision then the EU surveillance people will have them taken away where they can be given a good talking to by some officers of the 30% of our nations police force that will be taught the EU way of policing........Gosh..it makes me feel all cotton wooly just thinking about how easy life will become...its a dreamy scenario...an EU utopia :roll:


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wannabeeahack wrote:
look guys, the fact is NO goverment is there for OUR benefit, its only to provide a bloody good job and income for the 600+ MPs (and wives, and kids, etc)

the sooner you realise they are all cast in the same mould and frankly dont give a sh.ite about you and me (once theyve got voted in) then the sooner you will achieve nirvana

ive a new approach

what 1 goverment body robs off me, i rob off another

result? - perfect balance


ohhhhhhhh..its not so bad, we might have that nice Mr Blair controlling us soon as the new President of the EU..now I dont know about you but I find that so very comforting, it means that the UK MPs we have will be purely ceremonial..add to that the benefits brought about because we won't need think for ouselves ever again because the EU will know best whats good for us.

We will all be equals and if a naughty person should disagree with the EU vision then the EU surveillance people will have them taken away where they can be given a good talking to by some officers of the 30% of our nations police force that will be taught the EU way of policing........Gosh..it makes me feel all cotton wooly just thinking about how easy life will become...its a dreamy scenario...an EU utopia :roll:


it will feel more like an enema, not utopia


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bloodnock wrote:

73 was the fuel crisis year........cars limited to 50 mph...thats if you could find petrol..



I think this was actually later because I remeber geting don for speeding on my Harley Davidson. I overtook an unmarked police rover 3500 at 73 mph on what was a main road where the national speed limit applied and at that time it had just been reduced to 50 MPH. I bought the bike brand new on April 1st 1976 I even remember the registration number NAY 757P. :mrgreen:

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