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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:53 pm 
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Yes we do feckking know it, thanks.
It's plastered all over every packet, lest we forget.
It's my life and if I choose to end it slowly and painfully, that is my right.
Just as it is your right to choose not to.
I don't tell you how to live your life.
WTF gives the likes of you the right to tell me how to live mine?

So you having a slow painful death will not have any effect on your family and friends?

I'm more convinced than ever before that smokers are the most selfish people ever to breath, or not as their fate dictates. :sad:


I hate agreeing with you but I feel that I must this time.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:15 pm 
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FFS are cabs drivers that thick they don't know it kills you via a very slow and painful death? :sad:


Yes we do feckking know it, thanks.
It's plastered all over every packet, lest we forget.
It's my life and if I choose to end it slowly and painfully, that is my right.
Just as it is your right to choose not to.
I don't tell you how to live your life.
WTF gives the likes of you the right to tell me how to live mine?


Calm down.....have a fag

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Sussex wrote:
So you having a slow painful death will not have any effect on your family and friends?


My family and friends are none of your concern. You don't even know them. If you did, you would no doubt be telling them how they should live as well.

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I'm more convinced than ever before that smokers are the most selfish people ever to breath, or not as their fate dictates. :sad:


No, that accolade most definitely belongs to those who would restrict the rights of others, for their own selfish reasons.
Whose next for the nanny treatment? Drinkers? Selfish polluting taxi drivers?

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Sussex wrote:
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Yes we do feckking know it, thanks.
It's plastered all over every packet, lest we forget.
It's my life and if I choose to end it slowly and painfully, that is my right.
Just as it is your right to choose not to.
I don't tell you how to live your life.
WTF gives the likes of you the right to tell me how to live mine?

So you having a slow painful death will not have any effect on your family and friends?

I'm more convinced than ever before that smokers are the most selfish people ever to breath, or not as their fate dictates. :sad:


The Government like us don't they?? They rake in £8.1 Billion each year in duty. NHS spending on cigarette related illness is £1.7 Billion, they are making a right wedge aren't they??


Alcohol makes £3 billion a year for the Government, the cost to treat alcohol related illnesses £4.2 billion.

I've just dropped 200 ciggies off for my mates dad, he's 92 and been smoking since he was 15, he's still as fit as a fiddle.


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gusmac wrote:
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So you having a slow painful death will not have any effect on your family and friends?


My family and friends are none of your concern. You don't even know them. If you did, you would no doubt be telling them how they should live as well.

Sussex wrote:
I'm more convinced than ever before that smokers are the most selfish people ever to breath, or not as their fate dictates. :sad:


No, that accolade most definitely belongs to those who would restrict the rights of others, for their own selfish reasons.
Whose next for the nanny treatment? Drinkers? Selfish polluting taxi drivers?


Apparently its the Child smackers, Winegum Buyers, Grandparents that look after their Grandkids, Heterosexuals, Meat eaters, Owners of coal fires, anybody with an old fashioned 100W Pearlescent Bulb and Many, many other people that do normal things.....those are next for correctional Nannyfication by the State. :cry:


And how come my normal type font is so big???


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My family and friends are none of your concern. You don't even know them. If you did, you would no doubt be telling them how they should live as well.

Your right they are not my concern, they are yours.

I've watched too many of my family and friends die from smoking to support anyone using the 'it's my life and I will do what I like with it' slogan.

Smoking has killed too many people close to me, and each time that happens a bit of me is killed as well.

So don't get all high and mighty with me, think what you are doing to them. They care about you and don't want you dead.

And that's all I'm going to say on that particular matter.

But the law is the law, folks breaking it shouldn't complain when they are bought to book.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:34 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
So you having a slow painful death will not have any effect on your family and friends?


My family and friends are none of your concern. You don't even know them. If you did, you would no doubt be telling them how they should live as well.

Sussex wrote:
I'm more convinced than ever before that smokers are the most selfish people ever to breath, or not as their fate dictates. :sad:


No, that accolade most definitely belongs to those who would restrict the rights of others, for their own selfish reasons.
Whose next for the nanny treatment? Drinkers? Selfish polluting taxi drivers?


Apparently its the Child smackers, Winegum Buyers, Grandparents that look after their Grandkids, Heterosexuals, Meat eaters, Owners of coal fires, anybody with an old fashioned 100W Pearlescent Bulb and Many, many others people that do normal things.....those are next for correctional Nannyfication by the State. :cry:


And how come my normal type font is so big???



That's a good font don't change it.


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Sussex wrote:
I've watched too many of my family and friends die from smoking to support anyone using the 'it's my life and I will do what I like with it' slogan.
Smoking has killed too many people close to me, and each time that happens a bit of me is killed as well.


I've watched plenty of my friends and family die from alcohol related diseases. Heavy drinking is almost part of the culture up here.
I still wouldn't agree with the state restricting their right to drink the stuff.
I prefer persuasion.
If people don't want to listen to your message, you have no right to force it down their throats.
That IMO is arrogance and it's the thin end of the wedge.

Sussex wrote:
They care about you and don't want you dead.


Some of them think driving a cab on nights is more dangerous and would worry far less if I did something else for a living.
Should I give in to this as well?

Sussex wrote:
But the law is the law, folks breaking it shouldn't complain when they are bought to book.

This law shouldn't have been passed in the first place. It is an infringement of civil liberty.
If HMG really believes all this passive smoking tripe and wants to protect non smokers, they should have banned smoking outright.
That of course would have left a gaping hole in the country's finances.
One which the holier than though brigade would have needed to fill :shock:
BTW The Nuremburg laws passed in **** Germany were the law of the land there.
Should those brought to book under them have just accepted their fate without complaint?

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Strange...two pages of the same old arguments regarding smoking (from both "sides")...but all about the effects for, or on "me"/"my family & friends"/"the law" etc.

NONE about the customer and their rights. Interesting that. :wink:


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Strange...two pages of the same old arguments regarding smoking (from both "sides")...but all about the effects for, or on "me"/"my family & friends"/"the law" etc.

NONE about the customer and their rights. Interesting that. :wink:


Hardly surprising....Customers rightly have all the rights..even when there is no customer.


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bloodnock wrote:
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Strange...two pages of the same old arguments regarding smoking (from both "sides")...but all about the effects for, or on "me"/"my family & friends"/"the law" etc.

NONE about the customer and their rights. Interesting that. :wink:


Hardly surprising....Customers rightly have all the rights..even when there is no customer.


In a thread about the smoking ban and it's effects, we seem to be more concerned about ourselves than anyone else...whether that be someone with an opposing viewpoint...or more importantly... our customers! That was my point, but no...I guess that should not be considered as too surprising though. :roll:


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Chilon of Sparta wrote:
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Strange...two pages of the same old arguments regarding smoking (from both "sides")...but all about the effects for, or on "me"/"my family & friends"/"the law" etc.

NONE about the customer and their rights. Interesting that. :wink:


Hardly surprising....Customers rightly have all the rights..even when there is no customer.


In a thread about the smoking ban and it's effects, we seem to be more concerned about ourselves than anyone else...whether that be someone with an opposing viewpoint...or more importantly... our customers! That was my point, but no...I guess that should not be considered as too surprising though. :roll:


I can't speak for you but I am talking in general about every smoker's rights or should I say the lack of them.
Perhaps you could start the ball rolling re customers' rights..........

BTW Many of my customers are smokers.
Only some of them have rights it seems.

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I went to Crete in October where smoking in enclosed spaces was still tolerated. After the smoke-free atmosphere in this country, it was noticeable.

The law requires, inter alia, taxis to be 'smoke-free.' A non-smoking customer will not appreciate a cab or driver that smells of tobacco.

It is so blatantly obvious to a non-smoker that I am amazed there has not, so far, been any targetted 'mystery shopping.'; It would catch a sizeable number.

At the end of the day certain things are illegal and you contravene them in full knowledge: Speeding, drink driving, shoplifting, tax evasion, smoking in a work place, etc.


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I can't speak for smokers as I've never been there.

But as a non smoker, I don't want to get into a taxi that stinks of fags . . or a hotel room . . or a restaurant.

I can't see smokers being put off their journey / room / meal by the non existant smell of fags.

I've always said Live and let live, but please don't impose the stench of fags on me or my clothing, even if they are from Tesco. :wink:


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when I go into the local pub I was a customer.... I don't go any more.... two reasons.. one because I am not allowed to smoke and two because it has now closed... due to lack of customers....

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