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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:38 pm 
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Did anyone see that bizzare report in the latest The Cab Driver which was supposed to be a report by 'Our Special Correspondent' about the Brighton and Hove council meeting to approve the 19 new licenses and discuss WAVs.

It seems more like an anti-saloon/pro-PB rant and an advert for LTI.

I can't be bothered typing it all, but the last paragraph reads:

"If I had anything to do with it I would write to the chief executive of Brighton and Hove Council, expressing incredulity at such ignorance shown by a committee who are responsible for the licensing of taxis in Brighton and Hove council, concerning what appears to be a total lack of knowledge regarding the benefits of the TXII, for other passengers apart from those who are wheelchair bound. One wonders whether its been forgotten that councillors come and go but the benefits of LTI's wheelchair access taxi, plus all the other benefits, carry on and on."

I suspect that Wharfy wrote that, that's his real day job, special correspondent for LTI!

Dusty

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Geoff the solid information is in the testing, these vehicles were tested before they were converted "not after". All I said to the London lads was I'm glad I didn't buy one because I was close to signing on the dotted line for one, seeing them in action I'm glad I didn't, I told them all the problems that we were having with them up here like the steep step, the ramps were to steep to push a wheelchair on, loads of noise, water leaks, broken door handles, Doors going out of line etc etc. They drive nice and look nice Geoff but put 200,000 on the clock and see how they drive then.[/quote]

Our last Merc did 480,000 miles in 6 years. Then it started costing money to keep on the road, so it went.

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I didn't see the new Merc, but then again as it was not there, it's no surprise.

I did like the new Caravelle though, and one of my mates is going to get one. Even managed to talk the LOs into allowing some changes, at the show for him. :D

He had a good day, me well more later. :wink:


I really had a fancy for that 02-plate VW at the show on sale for 19,950, that was nice wasn't it Andy.

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Nidge wrote:
WRONG Geoff the cars were tested without dummies, without wheelchairs etc etc. We have the report in Mansfield Geoff.


Errrrr. I think they were crash tested as conversions, as the results are actually published on the DoT website somewhere along with a major and highly detailed report against the practice of using the wheelchairs rear-facing, without headrests, and with seat and occupant restraints that are floor fixing. I do believe, it said of the TXII that the ordinary rear facing passengers shock was absorbed by their heads penetrating the glass/Lexan or whatever partition, and that generally, that was not considered much of an idea.

It said something to the affect that on the Merc and generally faster road-speed vehicles to the traditional Black Cab, that this affect would be magnified in proportion to the increased speed etc.

Strange how they could do such detailed reports if they had not tested any.

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Nidge wrote:
Geoff the solid information is in the testing, these vehicles were tested before they were converted "not after". All I said to the London lads was I'm glad I didn't buy one because I was close to signing on the dotted line for one, seeing them in action I'm glad I didn't, I told them all the problems that we were having with them up here like the steep step, the ramps were to steep to push a wheelchair on, loads of noise, water leaks, broken door handles, Doors going out of line etc etc. They drive nice and look nice Geoff but put 200,000 on the clock and see how they drive then.


Nigel I think the confusion you had with the London boys, was that you were giving your experiences with one particular alternative WAV, whilst they just want the choice to be able to take your advice.

At present they really only have one choice, and in my opinion, not a good one at that. :(


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Andy wrote:
I really had a fancy for that 02-plate VW at the show on sale for 19,950, that was nice wasn't it Andy.


Not bad at all, I think they will also do well with the new Caravelle though.

As will Mercedes with their new vehicle.

One day (or maybe not), we will have a British firm building quality.

Alas we will all be dead by then. :(


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Andy wrote:
Error. I think they were crash tested as conversions, as the results are actually published on the DoT website somewhere along with a major and highly detailed report against the practice of using the wheelchairs rear-facing, without headrests, and with seat and occupant restraints that are floor fixing. I do believe, it said of the TXII that the ordinary rear facing passengers shock was absorbed by their heads penetrating the glass/Lexan or whatever partition, and that generally, that was not considered much of an idea.

It said something to the affect that on the Merc and generally faster road-speed vehicles to the traditional Black Cab, that this affect would be magnified in proportion to the increased speed etc.

Strange how they could do such detailed reports if they had not tested any.


The worst thing about all these tests for LTI, was that it scared s***less some councils, and now they specifically ask that London cabs don't do their WAV account work.

Alas, another nail !!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:43 pm 
This will stir it up.

I cannot see how an LTI is ever comparable to a Sharan conversion.

The wheelchair user finds the Sharan ramp easy and straight forward. The hoist/winch (whatever you call it) provides a safety back up for the driver during loading. The strapping and seatbelt attachments are solid and secure.

Sod all that pushing and shoving into a TX11.


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Oh Goly Gosh. The banned Sharan conversion eh?

And now for a little story....

My mate, had an affair, with a bird called Sharon. His wife had such suspicions and had had picked up the name Sharon from somewhere or other. She didnt REALLY know, but her suspicions were very high, and the marriage was in a rocky situation because of the distrust.

So, he went out and bought a VW Sharan.

He had it plated, took it home, and gave it to her as her new cab.

She was befuddled...

A comprehensive missinformation campaign, that he had been talking about the Sharan (as distinct from Sharon) actually got him out of the sticky stuff, and they lived happily ever after.

The moral of the story is that if you buy a Sharan, you can get away with a G/f called Sharon. She'll just think you are in love with the car.

Moral? Err. Perhaps no. There is no moral to the story at all.

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Andy, have you been drinking? :oops:


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Dusty Bin wrote:
Did anyone see that bizzare report in the latest The Cab Driver which was supposed to be a report by 'Our Special Correspondent' about the Brighton and Hove council meeting to approve the 19 new licenses and discuss WAVs.

It seems more like an anti-saloon/pro-PB rant and an advert for LTI.

I can't be bothered typing it all, but the last paragraph reads:

"If I had anything to do with it I would write to the chief executive of Brighton and Hove Council, expressing incredulity at such ignorance shown by a committee who are responsible for the licensing of taxis in Brighton and Hove council, concerning what appears to be a total lack of knowledge regarding the benefits of the TXII, for other passengers apart from those who are wheelchair bound. One wonders whether its been forgotten that councillors come and go but the benefits of LTI's wheelchair access taxi, plus all the other benefits, carry on and on."

I suspect that Wharfy wrote that, that's his real day job, special correspondent for LTI!

Dusty

PS Only joking Wharfy :D



I should bloodywell hope you are!
but whilst on the subject of cab driver IS there an article about mick n nige?

Wharfie


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:01 am 
Nidge wrote:
WRONG Geoff the cars were tested without dummies, without wheelchairs etc etc. We have the report in Mansfield Geoff.



the pergeot converted the citroen converted the fiat converted and the merc converted have all been crash tested with dummies with wheelchairs and all have m3 certificates to proove it.

whatever report you have in mansfield , who is it by, beccause nige you are part of a dirty tricks campaign.

if the pergeot (by the way the cabs that cab direct get are not plummers vans but specialy produced by pergeot for cab direct)
was not crash tested the pco would be in court now standing by conditions of fitness.

now Nige lets cut the crap and the misinformation.

Wharfie


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Wharfie wrote:
but whilst on the subject of cab driver IS there an article about mick n nige?

Wharfie


Well not in The Cab Driver as far as I can see Wharfy.

But there is an article in Cab Trade News titled:

TAXI AND PRIVATE HIRE INTERNET FORUM
By MICK POLLARD

Trouble is the accompanying story is about about a TGWU demonstration in London!

A bit of a fox's paw there methinks.

Dusty


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:D :D


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Sussex Man wrote:
Andy, have you been drinking? :oops:


Andy, that is a TRUE story!

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