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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:59 pm 
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Finances dictate choice and trust me ALI there won't be enough trade to go round if Edinburgh De-restricts the number of Taxi's, any one with Half a brain (i will give you 3/4s) knows the number of plates will double eusasmiles.zip


Yes, plates may double but the number of drivers will remain the same.
There isn't much difference between 2 guys driving 1 cab and 2 guys driving 2 cabs.

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One of the problems Dublin has is the Dirty tactics the Nigerians use,


Are their many Nigerians with an Edinburgh brief?
Dublin is a mess because anyone can get a badge with little or no effort, and they can plate just about anything.

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The one thing that i and the mass majority want is job security de-restriction takes job security right out the trade,


Only for those who bought into an illusion.
There is no job security when your job is dependant on the whim of an owner who can give your cab to anyone prepared to pay a tenner a week more than you.
Real security comes from being dependant on nobody except yourself and your own ability to adapt.

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Dougie, sees himself as one of the slave owners, that's all. He knows the real truth of the situation.

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aye! Dougie knows fine and well that he is talking crap thats why he cant defend it.
he just keeps coming up with more tales of woe from Topsy turvy land.

besides i don't know who he's trying to convince.
i ain't interested,and im sure know one else is, I've heard it all before :roll: dougie thinks his views are something new,that he is somehow the savior of the trade. :lol:
when in fact he's just another taxi driver who thinks he's a business man.


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What does Edinburgh's restriction really achieve?


Continued investment :wink:

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ALI T wrote:
aye! Dougie knows fine and well that he is talking crap thats why he cant defend it.
he just keeps coming up with more tales of woe from Topsy turvy land.

besides i don't know who he's trying to convince.
i ain't interested,and im sure know one else is, I've heard it all before :roll: dougie thinks his views are something new,that he is somehow the savior of the trade. :lol:
when in fact he's just another taxi driver who thinks he's a business man.


Oh they just love the pretendy businessman illusion. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :D

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What does Edinburgh's restriction really achieve?


Continued investment :wink:

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or continued enslavement
and restricted growth

are you saying that you no longer continue to invest in the trade in your neck of the woods :?:


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ALI T wrote:
captain cab wrote:
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What does Edinburgh's restriction really achieve?


Continued investment :wink:

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or continued enslavement
and restricted growth

are you saying that you no longer continue to invest in the trade in your neck of the woods :?:
Is there any real differance between a restricted trade and a De-restricted trade in Edinburgh? Now Ali in a De-restricted trade not every owner will be able to buy an old S reg tank that you operate! What I'm saying is that in a De-restricted trade owners will be forced if they want to earn a living to lease a taxi with a radio from the likes of ECPH, my guess is for not much less than a current rental within a restricted trade! You said it yourself its starting to happen in London. Let's take a look at a current rental? Street car 12 hours 30 quid, taxi with radio 45 quid, are you telling me that in a derestricted trade leasing a taxi with a radio will be much less! In a De-restricted trade the profit margin will be massivley less than it currently is within a restricted market, that say's to me that drivers are getting a better deal in the current restricted market. You are not going defend the fact tha t turnover will be higher in a De-restricted market are you? The fact is De-restriction will drive down invest, drive down turnover and kill off professionalism, it will massivley increase Enslavement by companies like ECPH. So are we better off as is or do we kill the trade in Edinburgh forever? Watch what you and the dynamic duo are doing! Are you really sure you want to go down the road of De-restriction? God be with you if you do!!! Skull do you think I'd make a good councillor?

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yer getting boring now :roll:
you received a response to your tripe and now you wont counter it.

as i said before Dougie your just not listening to anybody
all you can hear is your own ravings

and yes you'd fit in well at the council they are all blinkered and ignorant to :wink:


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Dougie it's simple, equality for all. Drivers are more than capable of making the choice to own, or to drive for someone. And if an owner can't survive without a driver then tough luck. Time to get out and leave the taxi driving to someone who can. We need a market with no hiked rentals and no ridiculous plate “values”, with everyone competing on a level playing field. It doesn't get any fairer than that Dougie. :wink:

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and once again ill repeat for the hard of thinking :wink:


who the feck would lease a taxi in a DE-restricted market for £200 when they can run their own for £50 pw :?:

oh btw i thought you said your metro was as good as new. :wink:
but mine is an auld tank :roll: .
you know Dougie that most in the trade cant even see street cars,there irrelevant to them(wrongly so).
your metro is an auld tank to them as its 8 years old.
and you are some daft street car driver to them who runs about in an auld tank.

thats not my opinion Dougie, it's theirs.
isn't it funny how your opinion of me hardly differs at all from their opinion of you .
your mind is closed Dougie.
it appears theres some sort of cloning going on.


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Skull wrote:
Dougie is simple, equality for all. Drivers are more than capable of making the choice to own, or to drive for someone. And if an owner can't survive without a driver then tough luck. Time to get out and leave the taxi driving to someone who can. We need a market with no hiked rentals and no ridiculous plate “values”, with everyone competing on a level playing field. It doesn't get any fairer than that Dougie. :wink:

ive corrected your typo skull


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ALI T wrote:
Skull wrote:
Dougie is simple, equality for all. Drivers are more than capable of making the choice to own, or to drive for someone. And if an owner can't survive without a driver then tough luck. Time to get out and leave the taxi driving to someone who can. We need a market with no hiked rentals and no ridiculous plate “values”, with everyone competing on a level playing field. It doesn't get any fairer than that Dougie. :wink:

ive corrected your typo skull


An honest mistake :lol: that's what I was thinking. :lol:

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Skull wrote:
ALI T wrote:
Skull wrote:
Dougie is simple, equality for all. Drivers are more than capable of making the choice to own, or to drive for someone. And if an owner can't survive without a driver then tough luck. Time to get out and leave the taxi driving to someone who can. We need a market with no hiked rentals and no ridiculous plate “values”, with everyone competing on a level playing field. It doesn't get any fairer than that Dougie. :wink:

ive corrected your typo skull


An honest mistake :lol: that's what I was thinking. :lol:

perhaps we shouldn't tell him

they say ignorance is bliss,and he does look happy or at least contented with his steak :wink:


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Jasbar wrote:
1. It degrades drivers - enslaves them, makes them chattels of existing owners - and discriminates against them.

2. It forces drivers to work when there is little demand, clogging up ranks during quiet periods.

3. It forces drivers to work longer hours, increasing tiredness and compromising public safety.

4. Tired drivers withdraw before peak period demand is satisfied, reducing service to the public encouraging them to walk the streets and/or enticing them to take chances with illegal hires.

5. Creates a power group that abuses its privileged market position to maintain discrimination against new market entrants. A complete contradiction of normal market mores and anti-competitive.

6. Stifles enterprise leading to the trade dictating a poor service to the market rather than responding to what the market needs and would pay for.

7. Delivers high rentals that translate directly into higher than necessary fares for a public being ripped off.

8. It denies drivers any real say in shaping their trade, their working environment.

9. It invests inordinate control in the council who conduct themselves as employers rather than licencers charged with ensuring public safety, and allows it to abuse its power to protect its own transport interests - not a function accorded them in Law.

10. High rentals, high fares - a bad deal for drivers and customers.


11. An endless series of posts on here?

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ALI T wrote:
Skull wrote:
ALI T wrote:
Skull wrote:
Dougie is simple, equality for all. Drivers are more than capable of making the choice to own, or to drive for someone. And if an owner can't survive without a driver then tough luck. Time to get out and leave the taxi driving to someone who can. We need a market with no hiked rentals and no ridiculous plate “values”, with everyone competing on a level playing field. It doesn't get any fairer than that Dougie. :wink:

ive corrected your typo skull


An honest mistake :lol: that's what I was thinking. :lol:

perhaps we shouldn't tell him

they say ignorance is bliss,and he does look happy or at least contented with his steak :wink:


A loss of Dougies, perceived taxi businessman status would see him chucking himself off the North Bridge.

The truth, Dougie can't handle the truth!! :D

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