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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:26 am 
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You don't disagree CC, you tow the party line irrespective of equality and the rights of drivers. Your argument is simply to enslave one group to the benefit of the other. Without driver's rights being denied there are no vested interests to protect, everyone is equal.


I dont enslave anyone......you been watching those DVD's again......you mucky pup :lol:

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I see you're still using the old humour card CC.

We don't have to agree or to disagree. The simple truth is restriction works by setting one group against the other. When it becomes too difficult to maintain a restricted market the council ends up pulling the plug. The trade goes backward twenty years.

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Frank Lay and the boys on Fasties, are desperately trying to convince themselves everything is rosy in the garden.

Now imagine wanting to live like that for, God only knows how long, prior to the council putting a pen through their illusions.

Living in fear is what it means to be a slave.



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[quote="Skull"]Frank Lay and the boys on Fasties, are desperately trying to convince themselves everything is rosy in the garden.

Now imagine wanting to live like that for, God only knows how long, prior to the council putting a pen through their illusions.

Living in fear is what it means to be a slave.



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I'm not living in fear, gary.

If you think you are a slave because you rent a motor, then maybe you should not have sold up.

I see you are still cracking on with your scaremongering rubbish, its a pity for you that no-one is falling for it anymore.


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Frank Lay wrote:
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Frank Lay and the boys on Fasties, are desperately trying to convince themselves everything is rosy in the garden.

Now imagine wanting to live like that for, God only knows how long, prior to the council putting a pen through their illusions.

Living in fear is what it means to be a slave.



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I'm not living in fear, gary.

If you think you are a slave because you rent a motor, then maybe you should not have sold up.

I see you are still cracking on with your scaremongering rubbish, its a pity for you that no-one is falling for it anymore.



You're the one living the illusion Frank.


Sorry Frank, but that's why you are on this forum.



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Gary,

You have made some very bad decicions over the years,
but everyone does, so get a grip and move on!

You are not enslaved.
but in the unlikely event that jim mccoll has actually shackled you to that taxi, just let me know.
I will pop by your soapbox at haymarket station with a pair of bolt cutters and you can be
FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST.


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Frank Lay wrote:
Gary,

You have made some very bad decicions over the years,
but everyone does, so get a grip and move on!

You are not enslaved.
but in the unlikely event that jim mccoll has actually shackled you to that taxi, just let me know.
I will pop by your soapbox at haymarket station with a pair of bolt cutters and you can be
FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST.



Frank, you bought into the trade thinking you were buying a business. Had you done a little research you would have realized you were buying a job. You live in fear Frank, no one, but you really believe they bought a business, not now.

The game is up, Frank, everyone knows the truth.

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gary,

It is just the way I earn a living ,
you call it a job or call it a business,
You can call it a reverse cowgirl for all I care!

It is just you repeating your same set piece lines over and over again.


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Frank Lay wrote:
gary,

It is just the way I earn a living ,
you call it a job or call it a business,
You can call it a reverse cowgirl for all I care!

It is just you repeating your same set piece lines over and over again.


The name means everything to the ignorant imbeciles who spent ridiculous sums of money to buy a job. You are, living proof Frank. Remember Frank, you thought you were buying a business, once. Now you need someone as gullible as yourself to buy you out sometime in the future.

I feel a song coming on. . .

The needle returns to the start of the song / And we all sing along like before / Nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all ...

Welcome to Frank's World :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Gary,

It is just an income and no more, and that is just what I thought it would be.
All I have invested has been cleared long ago with a good profit on top.
If plates became valueless tommorrow then thats fine, I will still have made a handsome profit.
Just because you could not manage your finances very well, that does not mean others cant.


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It has come to the point where taxi licensing in Edinburgh really is in disrepute,
Those who actually drive a taxi are struggling, while those who do not claw in the money while continueing in another job.
Control of licences should not be in the hands of those whose job is not a taxi driver.

Here is my twopence worth -

1 - Retain restricted numbers.
2- All licences to be returned to being allocated to an individual and not a company.
If a company wishes to operate a taxi it can employ the services of a licence holder.
3- All holders must have a taxi drivers licence AND taxi driving must be their full time
employment. (With exemptions for illness and being over 65)
4- No-one can hold more than one licence, as you can only drive one taxi at a time.
5- Selling of plates in not permitted.
6- A delay of 2 years to allow those who do not comply to dispose of their licences under
the current rules.

Of course the maximum number of plates would have to be looked at and adjusted on an annual basis. This should be to cover demand PLUS a small amount to cover expansion.

The system here REALLY DOES need a major rethink like this.


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Private Reggie wrote:
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Dougie, the trade is fecked, and if you haven't worked it out yet, it's every man for himself. :roll: :roll:
Started yesterday off with a 4 hour tour £100 10am-2pm rest of my day took care of itself, i'm one of them that is 100% for himself :D :wink:

Dougie at £25 an hour aren't you undercutting your fellow tour operators. :wink:
and supplying an inferior service,by running them about in a clapped out taxi. :wink:
and aren't you taking money away from the proper tour companies who have invested commercially in training,uniforms,premises,and vehicles.

just a thought but remember what you do,the next time some tuk tuk phc or bus company infringes on you taxi turf,what goes around comes around :lol: :lol:


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What does Edinburgh's restriction really achieve?


A rare away team penalty at Old Trafford?

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Frank Lay wrote:

Here is my twopence worth -

1 - Retain restricted numbers.
2- All licences to be returned to being allocated to an individual and not a company.
If a company wishes to operate a taxi it can employ the services of a licence holder.
3- All holders must have a taxi drivers licence AND taxi driving must be their full time employment. (With exemptions for illness and being over 65)
4- No-one can hold more than one licence, as you can only drive one taxi at a time.
5- Selling of plates in not permitted.
6- A delay of 2 years to allow those who do not comply to dispose of their licences under the current rules.


1. Not needed if you achieve 2, 3 and 4. Good entry standards would ensure no massive rise in driver numbers.
2, 3, & 4. All Illegal. Would need a change in the law (CGSA 1982). This would take many years - even if there was the political will to do it.
5. Selling/transfering plates is already illegal.
6. Assuming you achieved 2, 3 and 4, these people would have no option but to return their excess plates to the council.
BTW Why 2 years? Either immediate return or allow retention until any cab finance is paid off would make more sense surely?

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What does Edinburgh's restriction really achieve?


A rare away team penalty at Old Trafford?


L U-H G :mrgreen:


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Gusmac,

I would doubt that it is illegal to demand that it is neccessary for a holder of a taxi operators licence to be actually able to drive the thing.
And as you need to be an individual to have a taxi drivers licence that comes full circle.
There are many businesses that need to have an individual with a qualification to operate.
Technically a company can still be a taxi operator, they would need to have a suitable person on board though.
Much akin to a bus or truck operator, once they are a certain size they need a transport manager, If the owner of the company does not have the relevant qualification then the company needs to employ someone who does. As a company cant hold a qualification.
In anycase the rules were changed fairly recently to allow a company to hold a licence, due to pressure from those who wished to sell plates, It was easily done, so turning it around should be just as easy.

The 2 years was just figure off the top of my head, but a different amount of delay could well suit.
Rather than clearing finance, I was thinking more of transferring to perhaps another member of your family (using the present rules) if they have a brief. 2 years would give them plenty of time to get one.


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