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That won't matter in an area that is 100% saloon Hackney.

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Brummie Cabbie.

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Of course it will.

But who decides who, out the the 100%, remains saloon, and who has to fork out for a WAV?

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Thats already the case now.

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No it won't.

If you have a saloon, you keep it if you want or change to a WAV.

If enough don't change to a WAV & along come Tom, Dick, Harry & Bert, all with WAVs, then the council will be duty bound to license the WAVs, even if there is a survey that has shown there is NSUD & they have stopped issuing Hackney licences.
And they must continue to issue Hackney licences to WAVs until the proportion set by the Minister has been satisfied, eventhough they may have a no more HCVL issue policy.

So how does it matter who pays £10,000 or £30,000; it will sort itself out on a first come basis.

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It matters an awful lot.

The running costs associated with saloon vehicles, the finance costs etc already make for a two tier system within the HC trade.

Believe me, the fairest way is for all vehicles to be of the same type.

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Dream on!!

In areas that are 100% saloon Hackney, it just ain't gonna happen!!

And if you think the legislators did not see that this was going to happen, then, sorry but you are naive.

Divide & conquer again from the government.

In 100% WAV areas you might be right; initially.

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Thats why areas that are 100% saloon will be deregulated

Unless of course they go for an exemption.

I take it you've read whats been going on?

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That's correct, but who says that an exemption will be granted to a particular council / LA?

And who says that if an exemption is granted & the local taxi association at a later date upset the council / LA that they won't reverse that decision & ask for the exemption to be set aside.

And who says that if an exemption is granted, an agrieved WAV owner might be able to overturn the exemption in a court of law.

And the de-regulation will be until the proportion set by the Minister is achieved, but when that is achieved there is no guarantee that the said council will restrict HCVL numbers again. But by that time saloon HC only areas will be double, no treble f*cked anyway.

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I understand local authorities in Rural Areas can apply to the Minister for exemption.

I am not sure what will happen in the event of exemption being granted and an appeal against the exemption.

I can foresee a high percentage of WAV being a requirement, this will effectively deregulate many predominantly saloon car areas.

If we had JD about he would be able to tell us what areas would be most likely to be affected; if for example its a 60% WAV / 40% saloon.

I cant see it being many TBH.

Although Barrow in Furness would be affected

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I agree, except I believe it will also affect many areas that are mixed fleet at the moment & do not comply with the minimum proportion of WAVs set by the Minister.

And I have a feeling that could be a sizeable number of LAs, enough to make the effect in those areas & nationally in aggregate numbers an avalanche rather than a trickle.

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Yes but we are guessing at the number of WAV's.

I get a feeling the three test authorities mentioned at the NTA conference will be a key.

I think we may have three types; one figure for rural, one figure for semi rural and another for an urban area.

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And in the areas that apply for exemptions, you only have to have a few wheelchair users objecting to the exemption & what's the Minister going to do?

I presume the proposals for exemption under the Act will have to be advertised in the local newspaper prior to a decision being taken by the Minister on an application for exemption?

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Its the local authority that decide to go for the exemption, I presume there would be consultation at a local level?

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I can assure you that's the way it will pan out.

Drivers are only concerned with keeping their plate premiums, and others out

If that means they will have to buy a WAV, then that's a small price for them to pay.

Do you think existing WAV taxi owners will support the way forward you suggest?

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IDFIMH

I spoke to the DfT about this and they confirmed that it will be the same % throughout the country.

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