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Frank, is just another program. I have no problem with him selling out at some point but his, good for the trade, rubbish make me want to puke.

The only thing Frank is defending is his opportunity to sell. And we all know that means digging up some Muppet to buy him out.

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Gary,

It is better to put forward ideas on what you think is good for the trade than to put forward what you know will be bad for the trade like you do.

I don't think stringent quality controls and equality for all, would be bad for the trade. It might be bad for those with vested interests, but they are in the minority anyway.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Gary gary gary,

You and your pal constantly ramble on around the words "quality controls"

but you never say what these might be.

As Edinburgh has some of the strictest quality controls in the country at the moment, what additional controls are you imagining.

Or is it as I suspect, just a little phrase that you and jimmy boy like to say but have no idea what you mean at all.

[quote="Frank Lay"]Gary gary gary,

You and your pal constantly ramble on around the words "quality controls"

but you never say what these might be.

As Edinburgh has some of the strictest quality controls in the country at the moment, what additional controls are you imagining.

Or is it as I suspect, just a little phrase that you and jimmy boy like to say but have no idea what you mean at all.[/quote]




Your silence says it all.

Once again, you r wrong. We have long highlighted where real quality controls could be achieved. And at great length over many years on the fannie forum.

1. All modules to be achieved should have a real individual written assessment/examination of skills gained.

2. A driving standards module, designed to include passenger conveyance standards similar to PSV, followed by a driving assessment rising to advanced driver standard. Such module to be outsourced to IAD and form a transferable skill qualification.

3. Instruction and examination on road transport legislation to include legal obligations and road craft instruction of permitted pick up and drop offs etc.

4. An appreciation of consumer law and law of contract.

5. An appreciation of the law of criminal assault.

6. A real first aid module, suppoorted by a mandatory insurance scheme to protect those conducting such aid.

7. A full understanding of Health and Safety legislation and regulations in relation to passenger carrying and in particular wheelchair conveyance.

8. All new quality standards to be applied to existing drivers within a reasonable time scale - say 3 years.

9. Health examinations for all drivers every 5 years.

10. Video recording in all vehicles, subsidised by the local authority.

11. A written assessment of understanding of licencing conditions.

12. No tax assessment, licence is retained by licensing authority.

13. An improved knowledge test.

Just some of which has already been mooted Frank. We could design a system where the value of the job is invested in the professional quality of the driver. This would be compared to the high churn rate of PH.

Of course, such a highly professional trade would require to be appropriately remunerated Nothing is for nothing.

Just as nursing moved to a degree educated nursing staff, we could develop our own professionalism.

Or will we just not bother and continue to treat drivers like canon fodder Frank, slaves to be used and exploited by renegade owners, supported by stomach churning abuse from vested interest trade organisations intent on maintaining a status quo which represents the worst case scenarios of mill owners in the 19th century.

As I said, we,e outlined all of this before. You have either ignored or missed it.

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Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

[quote="Jasbar"][quote="Frank Lay"][quote="Frank Lay"]Gary gary gary,

You and your pal constantly ramble on around the words "quality controls"

but you never say what these might be.

As Edinburgh has some of the strictest quality controls in the country at the moment, what additional controls are you imagining.

Or is it as I suspect, just a little phrase that you and jimmy boy like to say but have no idea what you mean at all.[/quote]




Your silence says it all.[/quote]


Once again, you r wrong. We have long highlighted where real quality controls could be achieved. And at great length over many years on the fannie forum.

1. All modules to be achieved should have a real individual written assessment/examination of skills gained. (Just extra paperwork)

2. A driving standards module, designed to include passenger conveyance standards similar to PSV, followed by a driving assessment rising to advanced driver standard. Such module to be outsourced to IAD and form a transferable skill qualification. (Driving tests are in the hands of DVLA)

3. Instruction and examination on road transport legislation to include legal obligations and road craft instruction of permitted pick up and drop offs etc. (Driving tests are in the hands of DVLA)

4. An appreciation of consumer law and law of contract. (hire a lawyer and not a taxi)

5. An appreciation of the law of criminal assault. (hire a lawyer and not a taxi)


6. A real first aid module, suppoorted by a mandatory insurance scheme to protect those conducting such aid. (A first aid course is a good idea, but mandatory insurance is only for paranoid people like yourself)

7. A full understanding of Health and Safety legislation and regulations in relation to passenger carrying and in particular wheelchair conveyance. (Wheelchair guidance is already required, H+S is just a way for some to excuse themselves from wheelchairs when they are just lazy)

8. All new quality standards to be applied to existing drivers within a reasonable time scale - say 3 years. (as the above is rubbish this wont be required)

9. Health examinations for all drivers every 5 years. (More medicals than a LGV or PCV driver, never gonna happen)

10. Video recording in all vehicles, subsidised by the local authority. (On its way anyway)

11. A written assessment of understanding of licencing conditions. (Just extra paperwork, just issue the conditions book more readilly)

12. No tax assessment, licence is retained by licensing authority. (The cab inspector examining your financial affairs, not a chance)

13. An improved knowledge test. (In what way, already difficult compared to other areas)

Just some of which has already been mooted Frank. We could design a system where the value of the job is invested in the professional quality of the driver. This would be compared to the high churn rate of PH.

Of course, such a highly professional trade would require to be appropriately remunerated Nothing is for nothing.

Just as nursing moved to a degree educated nursing staff, we could develop our own professionalism.

Or will we just not bother and continue to treat drivers like canon fodder Frank, slaves to be used and exploited by renegade owners, supported by stomach churning abuse from vested interest trade organisations intent on maintaining a status quo which represents the worst case scenarios of mill owners in the 19th century.

As I said, we,e outlined all of this before. You have either ignored or missed it.[/quote]

THERE IS NOTHING THERE THAT IS EITHER PRACTICAL OR LIKELY TO HAVE ANY EFFECT!

Frank, you can't live in the pocket of the council forever. Sooner or later they will throw your pretend business to the wolves.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

[quote="Skull"]Frank, you can't live in the pocket of the council forever. Sooner or later they will throw your pretend business to the wolves.
:roll:[/quote]

Oh gary, yet more meaningless drivel from you.

It's happened before and it will happen again. You'll see . . .

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

So when you lose the argument you just dismiss it

No apology for being proved wrong for saying that we haven't offered real alternatives.

No answers to anything, nothing to offer, just stick your head in the sand.

That's why we're in the mire Frank. Because of supine children like you.

Dearie me.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

jimmy jimmy ,

I was looking for real and practical alternatives.
That was just a lot of nonsense, You might as well add hair transplants for all taxi drivers to be funded by the council.

so if it's happened before skull what makes u think it's going to work this time round ?????

It won't work this time around either. It will be a disaster, but the trade has the opportunity to take control for itself, and to control its own destiny. I don't think this will happen but that's our choice. The reality is simple in the commercial market place, you either sink or swim. If you can't compete then you are gone.

The trade is stuck in the past, it lacks its own history, it fails to evolve. All we do is repeat the same old [edited by admin].

I am no slave, and I won't go up to the council with a begging bowl in order to survive, but that's not the reality for most of the owners and drivers in this trade.

The owners fear losing their pretendy little business illusion, the drivers, their jobs. The owners depend on the council denying drivers their equality. The drivers are frightened to demand their equality and freedom of choice. The drivers are then reduced to casual labour with owners desperate to keep it as such.

You can drive a taxi to earn your living, but you just can't own one, unless you pay the entrance fee.

The whole thing is a scam.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

chipper,

As gary said in his post he knows derestriction would be a disaster !

That is what he wants!

The guy is a complete screw up, He has failed to make much of a go of his life and wants to try to cause trouble for those who have a decent life.

For all the fake reasons that gary and jimmy boy put forward, their real goal is simply to cause havoc.

They are pathetic

They are cosying up to edinburgh city private hire nowadays, in the rediculous belief that they will suceed in destroying the edinburgh taxi trade. They plan to jump ship to there.

In edinburgh city private hire they have found the only people that seem to take them seriously.