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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:44 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
The increase in pirates here has more to do with the cost of providing a WAV and the difficulty gaining a badge in Aberdeen.
As you say, the neighbouring shire council dish them out like sweeties and will license anything with wheels.
Capping Aberdeen's numbers would only make the problem worse.

Gusmac it has always been necessary to sit a knowledge and driving test in Aberdeen and indeed it is considerably easier now than it has ever been. I think the driving test has been done away with and with coaching schools and prescribed test papers any fool can pass their hack. Indeed the law laughably makes it difficult not to give someone a badge. Also the cost of a WAV has not prevented numbers increasing to near saturation point.
The point I was making was that a limit or no limit on numbers has little effect but if there is a demand for ANY service then cowboys will see the opportunity to take advantage of the vulnerable. Only by regulating more strictly can you hope to minimise this potential. This regulating may also extend to increasing numbers

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Well, CC, you must be feeling pretty stupid about your comments in taxitalk. The Scottish Government's Best Practice Guide pointed to the threat restriction poses to young females, back in 2007. The C.E.C knew about it but did nothing to stop it.

I don't suppose we'll see any of this in Taxi Talk.

http://www.taxitalk.co.uk/pdfs/Taxi%20T ... 202010.pdf

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Well, CC, you must be feeling pretty stupid about your comments in taxitalk. The Scottish Government's Best Practice Guide pointed to the threat restriction poses to young females, back in 2007. The C.E.C knew about it but did nothing to stop it.

I don't suppose we'll see any of this in Taxi Talk.

http://www.taxitalk.co.uk/pdfs/Taxi%20T ... 202010.pdf


C rawling back under your stone CC??


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what springs to mind is London..... were anybody can get a licence..... can somebody remind me how many young ladies were raped by one particular licensed hackney driver.

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what springs to mind is London..... were anybody can get a licence..... can somebody remind me how many young ladies were raped by one particular licensed hackney driver.


You're missing the point Mr T.

We've never claimed that de-limitation will remove the risk of sexual assault.

What we have said is this.

No council can claim to be protecting public safety unless and until it has done everything it can to protect public safety. Limiting access to taxis falls well below this standard.

Lady Smith pointed to the fact a female couldn't get a cab.

Because of this, and rendered unfit through drink or drugs, she was tempted into an unlicensed vehicle posing as a PH public hire vehicle.

She was consequently sexually assaulted, she came to harm.

The Best Practice Guide predicted this could happen.

The council ignored Best Practice.

It is the council's actions which contributed heavily to this girl coming to harm.

This victim therefore has a strong to sue the council for negligence.

Do you understand this Mr T?

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I understand a great deal more about councils than you think, the council has to abide by the law regarding Hackney's, but at the same time has to abide by every other law of the land , as for safety, it has to be mindful of everyones safety, at all times, its decisions have to be balanced , too many vehicles could well cause gridlock.. over ranking... which do become issues of safety, and best practice guidelines are exactly that guidelines and councils can quite legally choose to ignore them if circumstances so direct.

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MR T wrote:
I understand a great deal more about councils than you think, the council has to abide by the law regarding Hackney's, but at the same time has to abide by every other law of the land , as for safety, it has to be mindful of everyones safety, at all times, its decisions have to be balanced , too many vehicles could well cause gridlock.. over ranking... which do become issues of safety, and best practice guidelines are exactly that guidelines and councils can quite legally choose to ignore them if circumstances so direct.


Yes, very good. I'm sure your council takes great pride that you manage to speak the party line so effectively. "Uncle Tom" lives in Mr T.

The simple fact is that the Scottish Goverment warned what could happen. The council ignored that advice. And it did happen.

This is negligence. End of.

And the council deserves that the victims(s) sue its butt off, and the councillors playing their little game with people's lives deserve the political wilderness.

Else the proof exists that our local political system has descended to the lowest corrupt level.

As for Hackneys causing rank or other problems. This is simply a matter of compliance and enforcement. Persistent offenders are weeded out. That's a quality control.

BTW It's not just taxi licensing which shows that Edinburgh's council is not fit for purpose. There's the bin men's dispute; the trams cock-up; the budget deficit; the disintegrating city infrastructure; the list is endless.

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It must really irritate you knowing that these inadequate Councillors who are duly elected by the fool's of Edinburgh take no notice to your rantings, surely by now you should be asking yourself what use you are to any body, but then you have now achieved national fame... as Jimmy the crank... or plank.... from Edinburgh....... a man of many words .... that makes no useful contribution to the people around him.... :wink:

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MR T wrote:
It must really irritate you knowing that these inadequate Councillors who are duly elected by the fool's of Edinburgh take no notice to your rantings, surely by now you should be asking yourself what use you are to any body, but then you have now achieved national fame... as Jimmy the crank... or plank.... from Edinburgh....... a man of many words .... that makes no useful contribution to the people around him.... :wink:
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Thank you Mr T. We can always trust you to show the plank that you are.

There is not a single councillor elected who achieved more than one in six of the electorate voting for them. Feck your idea of "democracy" It doesn't exist.

If you werem't thick you would realise this.

I don't need to be of any use to anyone. I'm fe cking you and you "businessman" illusion.

Tht's all I need.

That's why you're irritated.

That's why I'm deliriously happy.

That's why tou're fecked

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The word delusional springs to mind... :wink:

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MR T wrote:
The word delusional springs to mind... :wink:


I wonder what delusions the two victims of the council's ignoring Best Practice are suffering?

Do you even care Mr T?

:?:

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jimmy boy,

If the councillors are so bad, and you are so wise.
Why dont you stand for election?

Put up or shut up.

You might find it more interesting than talking about rape on web forums all the time.


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jimmy boy,

If the councillors are so bad, and you are so wise.
Why dont you stand for election?

Put up or shut up.

You might find it more interesting than talking about rape on web forums all the time.


Quite simple, because the system is corrupt.

Who want to be elected a scumbag.

And the thing about the council ignoring best practice and being responsible for two victims being assaulted, is that it irritates you.

Because you know I'm right.

And your awful position is that rapes are acceptable - reasonable - just as long as the council conducts the survey that protects vested interest.

You guys are bigger scumbags than the council.





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And the thing about the council ignoring best practice and being responsible for two victims being assaulted, is that it irritates you.

Because you know I'm right.






Ok jimmy. If the council are responsible for the 2 victims being raped. You go get a lawyer, contact the victims and say you'd like to fight them in court for damages. See how far you get!

The council are responsible for the poor victims attacks. The animals that did this to them are responsible.

Go on, you say your always fighting for the better cause. Go take the council to court got being responsible for these rapes!





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LongshanksED wrote:
And the thing about the council ignoring best practice and being responsible for two victims being assaulted, is that it irritates you.

Because you know I'm right.






Ok jimmy. If the council are responsible for the 2 victims being raped. You go get a lawyer, contact the victims and say you'd like to fight them in court for damages. See how far you get!

The council are responsible for the poor victims attacks. The animals that did this to them are responsible.

Go on, you say your always fighting for the better cause. Go take the council to court got being responsible for these rapes!






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Tell you what bright boy. You write to the council and tell them to grant my licence. Then I'll buy into the illusion of "businessman". I'll exploit the driver that will come with my licence as a right, I'll make plenty of cash off his back, then I'll use that money to ram the council.

Can't say fairer than that can I
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