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If only :lol: :wink:

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gary gary gary,

You really need to look at life outside the taxi trade, you have been stuck in the job you hate too long and have become blinkered.

Many businesses have many restrictions imposed on them.

From september I need to have an operating base for two trucks, I would have liked to be based in edinburgh, but this is not to be.

There are a limited number of suitable premises within edinburgh, and what there is can be quite expensive (Does that ring a bell)

Many restrictions come from the council, planning licencing whatever, it makes no difference what department the restriction comes from.
A restriction is a restriction.

So it is off to Mid-Lothian.


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Your on a loser here Skull. Turn your computer off.


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It's similar to the arguement that if you wanted to open a bar/nightclub in a city centre you can't just apply for a license for premises and get it. The council take in factors like how many bar/clubs there already are within a certain area and criteria


So why do they do that then?

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Why do they restrict bars & clubs etc?

Too many bars/clubs/restaurants in the same area has to be regulated and controlled otherwise things like waste management come into effect which can then cause an increase in vermin innthe neighbouring surrounding of the bar/club/restaurant. Also other factors like noise pollution for neoghbouring residents a is a factor


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LongshanksED wrote:
Why do they restrict bars & clubs etc?

Too many bars/clubs/restaurants in the same area has to be regulated and controlled otherwise things like waste management come into effect which can then cause an increase in vermin innthe neighbouring surrounding of the bar/club/restaurant.


But in the grand scheme of things it's not going to affect the amount of waste, so I can't see the problem. If the smaller number of outlets are just busier then the waste is identical. If they have to open elsewhere the problem is spread out.



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Also other factors like noise pollution for neoghbouring residents a is a factor



Ditto.

Thus just another crude rationale - like limiting taxi numbers - that either just demonstrates the threabare thinking of councils or is all about creating another controlled market to boost profits and keep their pals happy.

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Of course there is more waste. I'll take your arguement that the customers are spread a bit thinner but each outlet will have their own stocks, deliveries and cleansing practices. Bar/restaurant A isn't going to stock and prepare drinks and food based on the customers of bar/restaurant B C D E and F


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What about the arguement of overcrowding and emissions pollution?

The theory of more cabs, single shifted is theoretically sound. But postings from others in derestricted and capless councils, on these very forums have shown that not to be the case. Drivers from areas such as Cardiff and Dublin have repeatedly said that at all times of the day the ranks are overflowing. Much like Edinburgh at the moment 95% of the time


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LongshanksED wrote:
Of course there is more waste. I'll take your arguement that the customers are spread a bit thinner but each outlet will have their own stocks, deliveries and cleansing practices. Bar/restaurant A isn't going to stock and prepare drinks and food based on the customers of bar/restaurant B C D E and F


But surely a thousand tins of beans creates the same waste whether its in one premises or spread over several?

And the same amount of air pollution :lol:

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Caledonian Cabbie wrote:
But surely a thousand tins of beans creates the same waste whether its in one premises or spread over several?

And the same amount of air pollution :lol:


I'm not sure how this got onto tins of beans?
But if it is spreading it around it does make a difference.

Place one baked bean outside every house in Edinburgh, and no-one will notice.
If you place them all in the middle of Princes Street, then it would be noticed.
You would likely get arrested, perhaps for littering or perhaps for your own safety.


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Frank Lay wrote:
Place one baked bean outside every house in Edinburgh, and no-one will notice.
If you place them all in the middle of Princes Street, then it would be noticed.
You would likely get arrested, perhaps for littering or perhaps for your own safety.


What a load of rubbish - literally as well as figuratively :lol:

The way you're talking restaurants just throw their waste onto the street.

And even if they are controlled then they're not going to end up all in one place.

And however do premises with large concentrations of waste - like a huge supermarket or nightclub - manage their waste without the world stopping revolving?

Your argument is merely another contrivance to draw a parallel with restricted taxi numbers, but it's equally nonsensical.

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LongshanksED wrote:
What about the arguement of overcrowding and emissions pollution?

The theory of more cabs, single shifted is theoretically sound. But postings from others in derestricted and capless councils, on these very forums have shown that not to be the case. Drivers from areas such as Cardiff and Dublin have repeatedly said that at all times of the day the ranks are overflowing. Much like Edinburgh at the moment 95% of the time


And allowing drivers to run their own vehicle would change this how?

At least if they didn't have a huge rental to pay then they'd feel less compelled to hang off the back of the rank =D>

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Well,

It was you that brought up "tins of beans"


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Caledonian Cabbie wrote:
LongshanksED wrote:
What about the arguement of overcrowding and emissions pollution?

The theory of more cabs, single shifted is theoretically sound. But postings from others in derestricted and capless councils, on these very forums have shown that not to be the case. Drivers from areas such as Cardiff and Dublin have repeatedly said that at all times of the day the ranks are overflowing. Much like Edinburgh at the moment 95% of the time


And allowing drivers to run their own vehicle would change this how?

At least if they didn't have a huge rental to pay then they'd feel less compelled to hang off the back of the rank =D>



If Edinburgh was derestricted, they would not have much choice.

With the extra cars, they would certainly be hanging of the back of ranks.

With the work spread even thinner they would need to get out, no choice there.

Even if you own your own taxi, it does not come for free and there are still bills to pay before you earn anything. But it would take a bit longer to cover those costs with extra cars about.


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You just dont get it, cc.

You want rid of the cap so that you can get your plate on the cheap.

But, So would everyone else.

And then it is no longer something worth having.

I bought my plate, I have since sold it on again and got my money back with a wee bit extra.

If you want a plate so much, why dont you just do as I did?

Instead you just rant on about how unfair life is to you.

It is pathetic.


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