Taxi Driver Online

Why don't you answer the above Toots, and tell me where I've gotten it wrong?

Start with the morality of the situation.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
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I'm pretty sure Nuclear Scientist's tools are restricted.

I'm pretty sure that a Soldiers tool is locked up under lock and key when not in use......and I'm pretty sure he cant take his own into battle.

I'm pretty sure most businesses need planning consent.

I'm also pretty much certain your Human Rights argument is a no brainer

"Possessions" is given a broad definition and includes a licence. Article 1 of the First Protocol does not apply to property which a person wants or hopes to acquire. Therefore an applicant hoping to acquire a hackney carriage vehicle licence is not able to rely on this Article.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
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Yeah CC, Council's are allowed to operate a discriminatory practice regardless of an applicant's human rights.

Oh and let's not forget the black market trade in public license.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Sorry to p*ss on you and wee Crankies garden party......errm lets correct that, I'm not sorry, in actual fact I quite enjoy it.

There is caselaw on the Human Rights issue you mention, and it seems fairly clear that;

"Possessions" is given a broad definition and includes a licence. Article 1 of the First Protocol does not apply to property which a person wants or hopes to acquire. Therefore an applicant hoping to acquire a hackney carriage vehicle licence is not able to rely on this Article.

I highlighted the bit in bold, just for you and you're special friend.

As for the horse trading in licenses.....well, you appear to be £100K the richer for it......or someones £100K the poorer, either or, I presume you will give the money back to the people you took it from......I take it you did say it was illegal.....and the proceeds of crime and all of that?

ffs

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Incidentally.

Can yo do me a favour and write the line;

It is the right of every man (or woman) to have unfettered access to the tools of their trade.

After every post, because that kinda reminds me of a great scene out of Pythons 'Life of Brian'.



CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

You are talking shi*e, as per usual CC. "There is Case Law" which supports the legal operation of a discriminatory practice, which turns people into casual labour to be exploited by vested interests. I think not.

The horse trading in licences has nothing to do with me. It was the trade bodies and the council that agreed the incorporation of license plates.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Can you point to the part I have wrong CC?

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

what is the definition of black market

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

I dont think I'm 'talking shi*e', as you so eloquently put it. To be totally correct, I would be 'typing shi*e' but I'd be seen as being a little picky.

In actual fact I think you and wee Crankie are trying to create some type of fear from those with licenses, a kind of 'oh no they've got us now' type of thing. That's what I think you want, people to live in fear of you, and the wee Crankie wants people to respect him and people to think he's intelligent, which of course he is, because he can write essays of 'shi*e' with long words (although some of us can actually see through the sh*te he writes).

Going back to the HRA, as you and your wee mate have mentioned it over the past few weeks. I'm afraid I didnt write the HRA, so you cant really say 'Wayne and his human rights act blah, blah, discrimination, blah, blah, b*llocks'. It actually doesnt provide for a person wanting a license.

Now you could do me and the rest of us a favour, use your £100K, which by your own admission you got illegally, from cab drivers you have been quoted as roughly saying you despise (although I bet you didnt when you got the cash huh?) for a test case, and prove to us the HRA will enable people to obtain licenses.

My money, as little as I have, is on you not being able to rely on the HRA schedule 1.

I'm interested to learn that you blame the trade bodies and the council for your windfall, however, as you and your mate have pointed out countless times on here, in Scotland the sale of plates is illegal, yet you have sold at least two licenses at a going rate of £50K each.

This is illegal earnings surely?

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Irrespective of why licenses are being bought or sold and by whom. It all comes down to the restriction placed on a qualified driver's choice. If you restrict the number of license plates you fetter his/ her access to the tools of his trade. You can qualify to drive a taxi. You can even pay £300 a week to drive a taxi. However, you just can't operate your own taxi.

I have absolutely no doubt the above is a discriminatory practice, and at the very least, supported by the C.E.C.

I do not believe for one minute, the HRA would allow the above to continue, under any circumstances.

The argument is not about whether or not you can gain access to a license. It's about who and how much you end up paying for it. You can apply through the normal channels to the council, or you can buy your access through the black market trade in public property, via the incorporation back door. Every time the council denies a license, they support the black market.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

You can believe what you like.

I merely quoted what is in caselaw and in the HRA.

You are not being denied access to a possession, because CEC has a mechanism in place for the allocation of licenses as and when required. You have benefitted from this yourself.

A license has been regarded in caselaw as property. The HRA does not apply to property a person wants or hopes to aquire.

I am quite interested in the illegal earnings aspect though, proceeds of crime etc, could you shed any light on this?



CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

CC, if you had the proper case law in support of your argument you would be posting it all over the place, the fact is, you don't. All you have is a selective quote that you think suites your argument.

Oh and as for “illegal earnings” I'll take my chances.




I take it, you agree with the above, this is how the scam works is it not?

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

The caselaw is on here

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Really

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

And how the scam works?

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"