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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:15 am 
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And how the scam works? :shock:


How's it a scam?

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And how the scam works? :shock:


How's it a scam?

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It's a confidence trick controlled by the council and the vested interests, a little illusion of "businessman". All you need is a cap on plates and a swelling labour pool of ignorant mugs. Desperate to gain unfettered access to the tools of their trade.


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gary ,

Can you please at least use some different words to say "unfettered access to the tools of their trade"

It really has become a joke to see you post that same phrase, day after day.


Why should you have "unfettered access to the tools of your trade" after you have chosen to SELL that "right" twice over!


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You think because I've sold plates in the past this somehow detracts from the argument?


May be not but it does put into question the morals of the person making this argument. It's kind of like having your cake and eating it :-|


And you would know all about morals Toots, now wouldn't you? :roll:


What's that suppose mean. Have I indicated that I have no morals or superior morals? I have morals they may not be perfect but I have them. What I don't have are double standards. I'm not one of those people who say 'do as I say not as I do'

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Irrespective of why licenses are being bought or sold and by whom. It all comes down to the restriction placed on a qualified driver's choice. If you restrict the number of license plates you fetter his/ her access to the tools of his trade. You can qualify to drive a taxi. You can even pay £300 a week to drive a taxi. However, you just can't operate your own taxi.

I'm trying to think of a profession where one becomes qualified to ply their trade but access to your tools are restricted.



Why don't you answer the above Toots, and tell me where I've gotten it wrong?

Start with the morality of the situation.


Just because you've 'qualified' to be a taxi driver doesn't mean you have the right to be one. I qualified as a legal executive but it's not what I do cos there just wasn't any jobs at the time. I can't make somebody employ me. As for the morality of the situation I don't see your point tbh. However I am of the opinion that if it's illegal there's a good chance it's immoral too. If somebody wants to do this job so much they can be PH what's the issue?

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So you dont want one, but you might want one on the cheap


Don't want one, period.

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There was a guy from Hampshire applied for one recently, So why not


So a few people in the Edinburgh area and one guy from Hampshire means "everyone"?

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I think the job is stuffed, thats why I am leaving in 8 weeks


But the plate's "still worth having", to use your own words? So why are you leaving?

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You can pay of a plate quicker than you think, I was never worried


Try telling that to Captain Cab. But yours is a good point to remember.
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No, you want things to suit you personally


No, that's the featherbedding, I said I wanted a level playing field :D

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If they go to the trouble of getting their own taxi, they will want to earn more and working less hours wont achieve that


So mightn't they be aiming for the same money for less hours?

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And anyone else who might fancy it, I suspect quite a few guys from ecph might make more of an effort


Good point, but I thought they taxi trade already encouraged them to get the brief rather than go PH?

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Do you really think we are living in a country with full employment


Of course not, but why aren't they driving now?

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But in the derestricted land at the end of the rainbow, It will surely be more attractive to enter the trade


But you earlier said that the restricted trade was bollox :roll: [/quote]

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By the way, Frank, I would learn how to use the quote function before pontificating to others in another thread about the protocol of quoting others [-(

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If somebody wants to do this job so much they can be PH what's the issue?


Have you seen the comments about Edinburgh PH by the Edinburgh blacks on the other forum?

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If somebody wants to do this job so much they can be PH what's the issue?


Have you seen the comments about Edinburgh PH by the Edinburgh blacks on the other forum?


No I don't go on the other forum and your point?

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But you earlier said that the restricted trade was bollox :roll:
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I have never described anything as "bollox".
You just made that up.

There are many people that already hold a brief but do not use it.
I think these people could be among the people who might fancy their own taxi if there was no cap.

There are many people in the phc trade who own a vehicle and it is used among various members of their family.
Renting a taxi would not suit them, but owning one would. That would make moving from phc to taxis more inviting.

If you think new plates will just be issued to current jockeys, you are kidding yourself on.

Current jockeys will not be those at the front of the queue.


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toots wrote:
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If somebody wants to do this job so much they can be PH what's the issue?


Have you seen the comments about Edinburgh PH by the Edinburgh blacks on the other forum?


No I don't go on the other forum and your point?


Well here's one example of the "issue" that the blacks have with the PH in Edinburgh, so suggesting that "If somebody wants to do this job so much they can be PH what's the issue?", seems to be consigning them to some sort of lower order, from the blacks perspective at least:

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also had the miss fortune of the same thing happening from the pavilion and the driver didn't have a clue were Currie was n try ed to take me back in to the city center also his car was disgusting needed a right good scrub i think i could smell pee in the back was not impressed will not be traveling by PHC again

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In other places where the cap has been removed, It is quite clear that drivers are having to put in longer hours.

Why would you think that the opposite would be the case in Edinburgh.

I does not make sense.


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Frank, it's certainly the case that if all drivers increase their hours by the same amount then they all end up working the longer hours for the same money. :-k

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Frank, it's certainly the case that if all drivers increase their hours by the same amount then they all end up working the longer hours for the same money. :-k


At best.

It is more likely to be longer hours for less money.

If more plates are issued, there WILL be more taxis on the road at any given time.

You can forget pervy jims mad idea that lots will just be parked up or be used as private cars. All just waiting for Saturday night.

More Plates = More cars on the road = work spread thinner = longer hours with no more money.


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"Possessions" is given a broad definition and includes a licence. Article 1 of the First Protocol does not apply to property which a person wants or hopes to acquire. Therefore an applicant hoping to acquire a hackney carriage vehicle licence is not able to rely on this Article.

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Skull wrote:

It's a confidence trick controlled by the council and the vested interests, a little illusion of "businessman". All you need is a cap on plates and a swelling labour pool of ignorant mugs. Desperate to gain unfettered access to the tools of their trade.


:-|


I think you watch the 'X' files too much.

If you can think of any system that allows for a mixture of growth coupled to demand, I'm sure everyone would be interested to hear.

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