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Section 52 of the Road Safety Act 2006 amended the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 such that local authorities can now suspend or revoke a taxi or PHV driver's licence with immediate effect on safety grounds. It should be stressed that this power can only be used where safety is the principal reason for suspending or revoking and where the risk justifies such an approach. It is expected that in the majority of cases drivers will continue to work pending appeal and that this power will be used in one-off cases. But the key point is that the law says that the power must be used in cases which can be justified in terms of safety. The Department is not proposing to issue any specific guidance on this issue, preferring to leave it to the discretion of licensing authorities as to when the power should be used.

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The Department is not proposing to issue any specific guidance on this issue, preferring to leave it to the discretion of licensing authorities as to when the power should be used


Perhaps The Department should give guidance on this issue. There is an element of public risk with over ranking, but, does that justify an immediate suspension? Having said that if the drivers have been previously warned about this action being taken should they continue to over rank then that's all they expect. Not having enough rank spaces is a major issue especially in de-restricted areas :-|

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Perhaps The Department should give guidance on this issue. There is an element of public risk with over ranking, but, does that justify an immediate suspension? Having said that if the drivers have been previously warned about this action being taken should they continue to over rank then that's all they expect. Not having enough rank spaces is a major issue especially in de-restricted areas :-|


The DFT told the NTA conference they werent issuing guidance, I specifically asked the question.

If there was public risk in over ranking then surely the people to sort it are the Police.......dangerous parking is an offence still aint it?

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I cant quite believe this still.

An immediate suspension for a month for a parking violation?

ffs

The country has gone mad.

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toots wrote:

Perhaps The Department should give guidance on this issue. There is an element of public risk with over ranking, but, does that justify an immediate suspension? Having said that if the drivers have been previously warned about this action being taken should they continue to over rank then that's all they expect. Not having enough rank spaces is a major issue especially in de-restricted areas :-|


The DFT told the NTA conference they werent issuing guidance, I specifically asked the question.

If there was public risk in over ranking then surely the people to sort it are the Police.......dangerous parking is an offence still aint it?

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The thing is though Cap the Police aren't bothered about it, if it does get meaty they come and ask the drivers to pull down a little and that's it.


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The thing is though Cap the Police aren't bothered about it, if it does get meaty they come and ask the drivers to pull down a little and that's it.

What appears to be coming across is that the drivers don't seem too bothered either. :sad:

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The thing is though Cap the Police aren't bothered about it, if it does get meaty they come and ask the drivers to pull down a little and that's it.

What appears to be coming across is that the drivers don't seem too bothered either. :sad:


They'll be bothered today because they've all been suspended.


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Here is a letter they have got this afternoon, the Council are making the drivers sign something to say they won't appeal.


http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1903/coucilscan.jpg


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Here is a letter they have got this afternoon, the Council are making the drivers sign something to say they won't appeal.

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1903/coucilscan.jpg

Something is not right here!!

The council are saying that there is a right of appeal, which must be lodged within 21 days, yet if they have suspended the drivers under section 61(2B) on public safety grounds as they have stated in the letter, then there is NO appeal for such public safety suspensions under section 61(2B).

A good lawyer would screw this council, . . . . right between their legs where it hurts most!!

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Here is a letter they have got this afternoon, the Council are making the drivers sign something to say they won't appeal.

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1903/coucilscan.jpg

Something is not right here!!

The council are saying that there is a right of appeal, which must be lodged within 21 days, yet if they have suspended the drivers under section 61(2B) on public safety grounds as they have stated in the letter, then there is NO appeal for such public safety suspensions under section 61(2B).

A good lawyer would screw this council, . . . . right between their legs where it hurts most!!


They'll give a person a licence who's got sexual offences yet, they'll suspend any driver who is clean who's only conviction was to over rank.


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Nigel wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Here is a letter they have got this afternoon, the Council are making the drivers sign something to say they won't appeal.

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1903/coucilscan.jpg

Something is not right here!!

The council are saying that there is a right of appeal, which must be lodged within 21 days, yet if they have suspended the drivers under section 61(2B) on public safety grounds as they have stated in the letter, then there is NO appeal for such public safety suspensions under section 61(2B).

A good lawyer would screw this council, . . . . right between their legs where it hurts most!!


They'll give a person a licence who's got sexual offences yet, they'll suspend any driver who is clean who's only conviction was to over rank.



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Nigel wrote:
Here is a letter they have got this afternoon, the Council are making the drivers sign something to say they won't appeal.


http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1903/coucilscan.jpg

They really can't do that. Image

Even if they had powers to do that, the punishment far outweighs the offence.

That council is a f***ing disgrace, and the drivers need to appeal.

They need to do it now, and they must sign nothing.

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You've got all this to come Skull if you want deregulation.


“All this” as you put it, is about giving away control over your trade to autocratic councillors. We either get together collectively where everyone is equal under the same banner, or we hand everything over to our Lords and Masters. It's got absolutely nothing to do with de-restriction but everything to do with taking control for ourselves, together we are stronger. You dictate our own identity, your own status and your own self-worth in this life. Don't expect anyone else to do it for you, least of all your political leaders.

A restricted trade is a divided trade with everyone feeding off each other. We have never advocated “deregulation” as you put it. We want, de-restriction with more regulation and stringent quality controls. The trade needs to evolve, and if that means years in the desert, through a de-restricted market, then so be it. If we can't take control for ourselves then we deserve nothing less.

The begging bowl mentality has got to stop. If you take the fight to them, eventually, they will have to give you what you want.

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You can't help people who don't want your help. They have resigned themselves to the fact that they are going to be suspended for one month.


And there you have it Nigel, scum, that won't fight even when they are in the right. Sorry for being so presumptuous, as to expect anything more.

Is it any wonder why we are treated like shi*?

Over to you Toots :wink:

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well look at the good side of it.... there's more work for everyone else.... and for once I think I agree with Skull... :shock:

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Wasn't this threat posted a while back? The council had told the drivers what would happen if they continued to over rank and the drivers chose to ignore the warnings.

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