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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:15 pm 
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As I mentioned to someone today.

If the offence was as serious as the LA state......why did they give a verbal warning then a written warning to the drivers concerned?

Surely if the offence warrented a section 52 there should have been no warnings at all.

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captain cab wrote:
As I mentioned to someone today.

If the offence was as serious as the LA state......why did they give a verbal warning then a written warning to the drivers concerned?

Surely if the offence warrented a section 52 there should have been no warnings at all.

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Very good point indeed & one that would be very persuasive in any legal action that the aggrieved drivers might eventually decide to take.

I wonder if HC drivers and proprietors, other than those directly affected by this mis-use of Section 52, could be deemed to be an aggrieved party?

And before you say 'No' to that question; stranger things have happened in English law.

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Very good point indeed & one that would be very persuasive in any legal action that the aggrieved drivers might eventually decide to take.

I wonder if HC drivers and proprietors, other than those directly affected by this mis-use of Section 52, could be deemed to be an aggrieved party?

And before you say 'No' to that question; stranger things have happened in English law.


Swansea vs Davies?

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They are all back at work today and tomorrow.


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Nigel wrote:
They are all back at work today and tomorrow.

Have there been any fresh drivers added to the list?

And is the rank being used in accordance with the council rules, or has nothing changed?

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Nigel wrote:
They are all back at work today and tomorrow.

Have there been any fresh drivers added to the list?

And is the rank being used in accordance with the council rules, or has nothing changed?


Still the same nothing has changed, I've been parked on double yellow lines for the last 3 weeks and I've heard nothing.

I think the Council have realised they've dropped a big b o l l o c k, none of the NTA drivers have been letter dropped from the Council.


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Still the same nothing has changed, I've been parked on double yellow lines for the last 3 weeks and I've heard nothing.

I think the Council have realised they've dropped a big b o l l o c k, none of the NTA drivers have been letter dropped from the Council.

Well let's hope the national lobbying has worked.

But we all need to remember the report being put before the Cabinet on Sept 16th.

Councillors need to know what is being done in their names and to stop it.

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Nigel wrote:
They are all back at work today and tomorrow.


Get them all to make a claim against the council for loss of earnings


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Nigel wrote:
They are all back at work today and tomorrow.


Get them all to make a claim against the council for loss of earnings


On what grounds? They never even appealed against the suspension.

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A council solicitor in Manchester today was heard to say, after winning a case being appealed, that there are few appeals being placed at the Magistrates since the new fee increase. Further inquiries have indicated the cost of LODGING an appeal in Magistrates has risen from £50 to £200. Appeals to a higher court have risen to £500. Has anyone experience of this.? If true, it is a backdoor way of denying a working man any sort of justice. Of more concern is that if someone cannot afford to lodge an appeal they are out of work and then have to rely on benefits and the public purse. This also, if true, cannot be allowed to go on.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:58 am 
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A council solicitor in Manchester today was heard to say, after winning a case being appealed, that there are few appeals being placed at the Magistrates since the new fee increase. Further inquiries have indicated the cost of LODGING an appeal in Magistrates has risen from £50 to £200. Appeals to a higher court have risen to £500. Has anyone experience of this.? If true, it is a backdoor way of denying a working man any sort of justice. Of more concern is that if someone cannot afford to lodge an appeal they are out of work and then have to rely on benefits and the public purse. This also, if true, cannot be allowed to go on.


£200 is still a steal.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:01 am 
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Nigel wrote:
Still the same nothing has changed, I've been parked on double yellow lines for the last 3 weeks and I've heard nothing.

I think the Council have realised they've dropped a big b o l l o c k, none of the NTA drivers have been letter dropped from the Council.

Well let's hope the national lobbying has worked.

But we all need to remember the report being put before the Cabinet on Sept 16th.

Councillors need to know what is being done in their names and to stop it.


Correct, I'd like to thank all those on here who have helped in furnishing me with all the information.


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Sussex wrote:
Nigel wrote:
Still the same nothing has changed, I've been parked on double yellow lines for the last 3 weeks and I've heard nothing.

I think the Council have realised they've dropped a big b o l l o c k, none of the NTA drivers have been letter dropped from the Council.

Well let's hope the national lobbying has worked.

But we all need to remember the report being put before the Cabinet on Sept 16th.

Councillors need to know what is being done in their names and to stop it.

Correct, I'd like to thank all those on here who have helped in furnishing me with all the information.

If your council is the same as Brum's, then your council agenda for the meeting on the 16th September & the reports from officers appertaining to the same should be on the council's website very shortly.

And if they are we can all have a gander!!

What is the full name of the council & the full committee name please, so that I can have a nosey?

(BTW, Brum's next meeting will also have some good stuff on the agenda)

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Nigel wrote:
tom2907 wrote:
A council solicitor in Manchester today was heard to say, after winning a case being appealed, that there are few appeals being placed at the Magistrates since the new fee increase. Further inquiries have indicated the cost of LODGING an appeal in Magistrates has risen from £50 to £200. Appeals to a higher court have risen to £500. Has anyone experience of this.? If true, it is a backdoor way of denying a working man any sort of justice. Of more concern is that if someone cannot afford to lodge an appeal they are out of work and then have to rely on benefits and the public purse. This also, if true, cannot be allowed to go on.


£200 is still a steal.


Presumably the council will be paying the £200 if the appeal is successful?

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What is the full name of the council & the full committee name please, so that I can have a nosey?

Details via Alex's post

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