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Cabbie changes tack with tuk tuk
Trains and boats and even planes, but Glasgow has never seen anything like the tuk tuk - yet. The motorised rickshaw is set to hit the city's street under taxi driver Pat Donnelly's tourism venture

Published Date: 10 October 2010

They are a common sight on the streets of Mumbai and Bangkok. But now the iconic tuk tuk could be coming to Scotland for the first time - carrying tourists on sightseeing trips around the streets of Glasgow.

Taxi driver Pat Donnelly is awaiting delivery from Thailand of a motorised rickshaw, which he plans to operate on a timetabled service to transport visitors around the main tourist destinations in Scotland's biggest city.

Donnelly, the first person to be issued with a public service vehicle licence for a tuk tuk in Scotland, plans to charge passengers £10 a head for a one- hour trip around the city.

The open-sided three-wheelers, which have been credited with reducing air pollution in busy Asian cities, are named after the sound of their idling two-stroke engines.

Called the Scottish Tuk Tuk Experience, Donnelly's venture will transport tourists along a designated route past sights including George Square, Kelvingrove Art Gallery and the Glasgow Museum of Transport, ending up at the veterinary school on Bearsden Road.

"I think they will be a sensation in Glasgow," said Donnelly. "It is such a novel way of travelling round and having a look around the city. It will let people see a whole different side to Glasgow."

The £14,000 vehicle, a specially customised white and silver version of the traditional tuk tuks found in South-east Asia, has already arrived at the Suffolk port of Felixstowe after being shipped from Bangkok.

The tuk tuk is expected to be delivered in about a month following checks by officers from HM Revenue and Customs.

"I've never been to Thailand and I haven't even any idea what Thailand looks like," said Donnelly, who plans to ask Scottish brands to sponsor his venture. "I want to give mine a Scottish theme, even though it's an oriental vehicle."

The taxi driver, who hopes to ultimately run a fleet of the vehicles, first got the idea for a Scottish tuk tuk more than a year ago after spotting cycle rickshaws on the streets on London and Edinburgh.

"I wanted to do something similar," he said. "But I didn't want a pedal version. This allows six people to sit comfortably. I think it will be exceptionally popular."

Last year he travelled to the south of England to test drive a vehicle before putting in his order with the Thai manufacturer.

"They are very comfortable, and they can go as fast as 50 miles an hour," he added.

Martin Breslin, VisitScotland's strategic relations executive for Glasgow, said: "Tourism is a real hotbed for entrepreneurialism and we know that visitors are always looking for the next new experience to enhance their stay in Scotland.

We're always interested to hear about new ideas and tours which might appeal to the millions of visitors who come to Glasgow every year."

Tuk tuks to be used in Britain need safety modifications to bring them up to the required standards, such as the installation of seat belts, strengthened overhead and side impact protection, and improved braking. In some cases, this can cost more than the vehicles themselves.

Donnelly's public service vehicle licence was issued by the Traffic Commissioner for Scotland earlier this month and he is now in the process of applying for a special licence to carry fares from East Dunbartonshire council, where he is currently already registered as a taxi driver.

Several previous plans to operate passenger-carrying tuk tuks in Scotland have failed over the years, and had faced opposition from taxi and rickshaw companies.

An operator which ran 12 tuk tuks in Brighton was among firms which proposed a service in Edinburgh four years ago, but the operation never got off the ground after facing immediate opposition from the city's taxi drivers and a rickshaw firm. The operators eventually withdrew their application for a licence.

Some tuk tuks have ben successfully introduced in the UK. A single vehicle, which carries just two passengers, is currently operating in Salcombe, South Devon. The only tuk tuk to have been in commercial use in Scotland was run by the Bombay Cottage restaurant in Hamilton, which used it as a delivery vehicle for a short period, but later disposed of the vehicle.

"We just thought it was a bit dangerous for the roads around Hamilton," said a member of staff.

Auto rickshaws can be found in many Asian countries such as Bangladesh, Cambodia, India, Laos, the Philippines, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and Thailand, as well as in Guatemala, Peru and some African countries such as Ethiopia, Sudan and parts of Egypt. Many auto rickshaws follow the original design of the Piaggio Ape C, from 1956, which was originally based on the Vespa.

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Take it from me.

Doomed, I repeat doomed, to failure. :D :D

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Sussex wrote:
Take it from me.

Doomed, I repeat doomed, to failure. :D :D


It will be found floating in the Clyde, or with the 5th of November coming it could be the guy :wink:


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"We just thought it was a bit dangerous for the roads around Hamilton," said a member of staff.


Yet, it'll be so much safer around Glasgow City Centre!!!! :shock:

I'll second sussex, doomed :wink:

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It wont take too long to go round Glasgow's tourist attractions.......


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Oh that's good,

TOO DANGEROUS to deliver a takeaway,

BUT fine for passengers!


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Good luck getting vosa to pass a tuk-tuk with a psv(pcv) licence once it is delivered.

It is gonna be a stange looking machine after it passes those tests.


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Does anyone really doubt that this is gonna happen?

Perhaps not now, but it IS gonna happen.

:wink: :lol:

And all because NOTHING was done about rickshaws. Even though folks have been seriously injured by them.

Now here's a question for the hard of thinking bewildered herd.

Why would anyone pay £20 to freeze their bollocks off in a rickshaw rather than pay 6 or 7 quid in a real taxi?


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Frank Lay wrote:
Good luck getting vosa to pass a tuk-tuk with a psv(pcv) licence once it is delivered.

It is gonna be a stange looking machine after it passes those tests.

The way our PSV regs are written basically anything with a motor can be licensed as a PSV, and if it seats less than 9 punters anyone can drive it i.e. the driver doesn't need a PSV driver's license.

The way all these so-called clever c***s fail is that they never charge separate fares, as they should.

But being a punter in one of those in Glasgow when it's pi**ing hard with rain and blowing a gale ain't going to be too much fun.

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Tuk Tuks should never be seen as a real threat to the standard trade. I am a private hire driver and a tuk tuk driverand also import them. I own and run a tuk tuk in the midlands, its uses are mainly weddings, proms, and commercial promotional work. A summer novelty it may be, and it take some trade in those months, but like all things it is best to embrace and work with rather than fight against the inevitable.


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I don't think any of us are that worried about the competition aspect.

It's the safety aspect that is the main concern, followed by way they don't seem to have to adhere to all the 'fit and proper' standards that all of us do.

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Sussex wrote:
Frank Lay wrote:
Good luck getting vosa to pass a tuk-tuk with a psv(pcv) licence once it is delivered.

It is gonna be a stange looking machine after it passes those tests.

The way our PSV regs are written basically anything with a motor can be licensed as a PSV, and if it seats less than 9 punters anyone can drive it i.e. the driver doesn't need a PSV driver's license.

The way all these so-called clever c***s fail is that they never charge separate fares, as they should.

But being a punter in one of those in Glasgow when it's pi**ing hard with rain and blowing a gale ain't going to be too much fun.


This chap says that he is charging seperate fares. £10 per head for a one hour sightseeing tour of the city.
I think he will clean up with all the sunny days they have in Glasgow. :mrgreen:

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Jasbar wrote:
Why would anyone pay £20 to freeze their bollocks off in a rickshaw rather than pay 6 or 7 quid in a real taxi?


He will be charging £10 per head for a 1 hour tour. It will be great in the wonderful sunshine. :mrgreen:

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For a Tuk Tuk to be road legal has to comply with the SVA testing of the DVLA. As long as these say they are road worthy and fit to carry the number of passengers (mine carries 6) then licencing authorities should not really be able to disqualify them. Surely it makes sense to have them under licencing to controle them rather than let it mushroom out of control. With the licencing of novelty vehicles from fire engines to party buses there has to be room for the Tuk Tuk.


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says the man with no vested interest.

The only stipulation needed, imo, is that they are safe. If the LA is satisfied then, surely, a PHV plate and licence will take care of the rest. That the picking up of passengers would also be regulated. No flag downs, no ranking on the street etc. Will Mr Donnelly be willing to jump through all these hoops to get on the road?

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