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I don't like walking, so not the Army.

I can't fly an inch, so not the Air Force.

I can swim a bit.

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Oh I definitely think for myself.

If you could see my S264's - which you won't, you'd see that even the Navy saw me as an individualist.

I don't think my personality is quite as unique as yours though, for which, if it wasn't too military, I'd salute you.



I'm curious, why the navy?


It's a village people fantasy :lol:

Or was it Billy Conolly? :lol:

Alife on the ocean waves
Is what our Chris craves
To spank a matelot
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And our rogering jolly misbehaves




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[quote="Jasbar
Alife on the ocean waves
Is what our Chris craves
To spank a matelot
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And our rogering jolly misbehaves[/quote]
JT you should give up your night job and concentrate on the poetry................


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Keep it up children

Now for that you can and should be arrested. :lol:



Chris, do you consider yourself someone that can think for himself or brainwashed by the military? :?


Skull, do you consider yourself somebody who thinks for himself or have you been brainwashed by the socialists/communists/jasbar?

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Keep it up children

Now for that you can and should be arrested. :lol:

Chris, do you consider yourself someone that can think for himself or brainwashed by the military? :?

Skull, do you consider yourself somebody who thinks for himself or have you been brainwashed by the socialists/communists/jasbar?

Ms Toots!!

If you do not stop passing remarks about the Bolshevik Tovarish Jasbar, you will end up in the Gulag!!

Tovarish Jasbar is the Chairman of the Council of Scottish People's Commissars and you must show due respect.

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toots wrote:
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Keep it up children

Now for that you can and should be arrested. :lol:



Chris, do you consider yourself someone that can think for himself or brainwashed by the military? :?


Skull, do you consider yourself somebody who thinks for himself or have you been brainwashed by the socialists/communists/jasbar?



Toots, I'm no socialist and neither am I a communist. I do not have a political leaning, one way or the other.

I do believe. However, that together we are stronger, as a trade and as a profession. Our problem is simply one of, self-worth. We do not dictate our value as individuals or as a group. Inevitably, we have our value dictated to us by those who would want to control us.

We are taught from a very early age to apologise for who we are, to make excuses, to give explanations, to ask for permission, and to let others make our decisions for us while giving away our control. The trade as a whole even lacks the intelligence to have a consensus of what represents its own interests.

To be a slave is to live in fear, but to some, bowing and scraping to eke out a living is better than the uncertainty of taking control for oneself. “Don't rock the boat, the council might de-restrict” is certainly the mantra you'll hear in Edinburgh. :-|

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Skull, I was just wondering, will it be a concensus only when everyone comes round to your way of thinking?








It could take a long, long time a coming. eusasmiles.zip

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We are taught from a very early age to apologise for who we are, to make excuses, to give explanations, to ask for permission, and to let others make our decisions for us while giving away our control. The trade as a whole even lacks the intelligence to have a consensus of what represents its own interests.


I was never taught to apologise for who I am and I don't think the majority of people are, we may be taught to apologise for what may be considered a wrong doing and I don't believe there is anything wrong with that. Nor do I consider it a problem explaining why I think the way I think, if it's appropriate. With regard to the trade having a consensus of what represents it's own interests I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon. You have so many individuals within this trade there isn't likely to be a consensus that suits all or even a decent majority of them. What suits you or I will certainly not suit others because our needs as indivdual as we are

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Skull, I was just wondering, will it be a concensus only when everyone comes round to your way of thinking?

It could take a long, long time a coming. eusasmiles.zip





No, it will be a concensus if they ever start thinking. :-|

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15 taxi drivers in a room ALL thinking will be thinking 16 different things.

2 of them must have MPD.

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We are taught from a very early age to apologise for who we are, to make excuses, to give explanations, to ask for permission, and to let others make our decisions for us while giving away our control. The trade as a whole even lacks the intelligence to have a consensus of what represents its own interests.


I was never taught to apologise for who I am and I don't think the majority of people are, we may be taught to apologise for what may be considered a wrong doing and I don't believe there is anything wrong with that. Nor do I consider it a problem explaining why I think the way I think, if it's appropriate. With regard to the trade having a consensus of what represents it's own interests I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon. You have so many individuals within this trade there isn't likely to be a consensus that suits all or even a decent majority of them. What suits you or I will certainly not suit others because our needs as indivdual as we are


Toots, if you weren't an apologist, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

If you do something wrong, by accident, you might apologise for the act, but you don't apologise for who you are. Most people, depending on where they see themselves in a hierarchical society, apologise to those, they perceive to be higher up to the food chain. They tug, forelock. I've seen this with cops, councillors, lawyers, and sometimes all it takes is an expensive suit. You apologise in a grovelling upward manner. This is conformation of where you are in the food chain and your acceptance of it.

The next stage is to make excuses. You did this, and he did that, it wasn't your fault. Then it's the big explanation hoping to pacify your superior. You know, the stress, the family problems all the guff you can think of.

You give away permission instead of taking it for yourself and any decision thereafter is made for you. Control is theirs, your superiors.

If the above was not the case, we would dictate our own value, and we would have a consensus of what that value is. :-|

You and I, would be on the same side. :-|

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We are taught from a very early age to apologise for who we are, to make excuses, to give explanations, to ask for permission, and to let others make our decisions for us while giving away our control. The trade as a whole even lacks the intelligence to have a consensus of what represents its own interests.


I was never taught to apologise for who I am and I don't think the majority of people are, we may be taught to apologise for what may be considered a wrong doing and I don't believe there is anything wrong with that. Nor do I consider it a problem explaining why I think the way I think, if it's appropriate. With regard to the trade having a consensus of what represents it's own interests I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon. You have so many individuals within this trade there isn't likely to be a consensus that suits all or even a decent majority of them. What suits you or I will certainly not suit others because our needs as indivdual as we are


Toots, if you weren't an apologist, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

If you do something wrong, by accident, you might apologise for the act, but you don't apologise for who you are. Most people, depending on where they see themselves in a hierarchical society, apologise to those, they perceive to be higher up to the food chain. They tug, forelock. I've seen this with cops, councillors, lawyers, and sometimes all it takes is an expensive suit. You apologise in a grovelling upward manner. This is conformation of where you are in the food chain and your acceptance of it.

The next stage is to make excuses. You did this, and he did that, it wasn't your fault. Then it's the big explanation hoping to pacify your superior. You know, the stress, the family problems all the guff you can think of.

You give away permission instead of taking it for yourself and any decision thereafter is made for you. Control is theirs, your superiors.

If the above was not the case, we would dictate our own value, and we would have a consensus of what that value is. :-|

You and I, would be on the same side. :-|


Wtf are you on about :?

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We are taught from a very early age to apologise for who we are, to make excuses, to give explanations, to ask for permission, and to let others make our decisions for us while giving away our control. The trade as a whole even lacks the intelligence to have a consensus of what represents its own interests.


I was never taught to apologise for who I am and I don't think the majority of people are, we may be taught to apologise for what may be considered a wrong doing and I don't believe there is anything wrong with that. Nor do I consider it a problem explaining why I think the way I think, if it's appropriate. With regard to the trade having a consensus of what represents it's own interests I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon. You have so many individuals within this trade there isn't likely to be a consensus that suits all or even a decent majority of them. What suits you or I will certainly not suit others because our needs as indivdual as we are


Toots, if you weren't an apologist, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

If you do something wrong, by accident, you might apologise for the act, but you don't apologise for who you are. Most people, depending on where they see themselves in a hierarchical society, apologise to those, they perceive to be higher up to the food chain. They tug, forelock. I've seen this with cops, councillors, lawyers, and sometimes all it takes is an expensive suit. You apologise in a grovelling upward manner. This is conformation of where you are in the food chain and your acceptance of it.

The next stage is to make excuses. You did this, and he did that, it wasn't your fault. Then it's the big explanation hoping to pacify your superior. You know, the stress, the family problems all the guff you can think of.

You give away permission instead of taking it for yourself and any decision thereafter is made for you. Control is theirs, your superiors.

If the above was not the case, we would dictate our own value, and we would have a consensus of what that value is. :-|

You and I, would be on the same side. :-|


Wtf are you on about :?


Try reading it, you shouldn't find the concept of being a slave and inferiority that hard to grasp. :-|

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