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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:20 am 
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To merge, or not to merge, that is the question: Whether or not the members of CRT and City Cabs really want a merger, it will inevitably come down to the committees.

The benefits of a merger for both companies is a no-brainer. In fact, you would have to be a complete turkey to believe otherwise. However, a proper feasibility study would do away with both committees. While opting for professional management to run the new super company. Naturally, this would not be in the interests of Dod, Les, Murray or Bill, regardless of what they claim. The fact is, a merger is not in the interests of the committees. Unless of course they can be accommodated in some sort of well paid management capacity to keep their vested interests alive.

You can bet your boots, that committees from both sides are working hard to scupper any chance of a merger ever being realised.

I know for a fact, that Dod Aird, has been securing the proxy, no vote. Meanwhile Les has been banging the, “we are all for a merger" drum, to anyone that might be for it.


Now what's the bet a merger doesn't go ahead? :-|

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For once Garry I hope you are spot on.


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whats it got to do with you :?: :?: :?:


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whats it got to do with you :?: :?: :?:


It's topical. I don't really give a [edited by admin] whether they merge or not. :-|

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If, service to the customer is, paramount one, super company servicing the customers needs makes perfect logistic sense. Shorter drags with a quicker response time and a higher coverage of service for the customer.

However, this would not include a company being managed by a bunch of committeemen. According to my sources, the feasibility study only points to the rationalisation process of the merger, but says nothing about the management structure of how the new company would operate.

If the consultants carrying out the feasibility study were given a free hand. I can guarantee they would opt for professional management. The current committees would be done away with in the blink of an eye.

I don't think Dod. Les, Murray or Bill was remotely serious about a merger going ahead. You need one company with professional management paid on performance, not a bowling club committee.

What a waste of time and members cash. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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I bet you will be smiling in the unlikely event that it does go ahead, Gary.

You know as well as me that it will bring forth some of the best arguments for derestricting the numbers in Edinburgh that you have ever had.

One company with control of most of the taxis in Edinburgh, with the power that it brings to be able to (a large extent) control who can come into the trade as a driver (Never mind owner).

Ah well, they will get what they deserve.

Who will be the first company or person to ask for more plates to be issued?. A reasonable request for any company that would wish to compete with a combined company that controls most of the plates in the city. How on earth could crt/cc reasonably argue against that?


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I bet you will be smiling in the unlikely event that it does go ahead, Gary.

You know as well as me that it will bring forth some of the best arguments for derestricting the numbers in Edinburgh that you have ever had.

One company with control of most of the taxis in Edinburgh, with the power that it brings to be able to (a large extent) control who can come into the trade as a driver (Never mind owner).

Ah well, they will get what they deserve.

Who will be the first company or person to ask for more plates to be issued?. A reasonable request for any company that would wish to compete with a combined company that controls most of the plates in the city. How on earth could crt/cc reasonably argue against that?


I could make that argument at the present moment. All I have to do is apply to the ugly sisters to become a driver. Upon their refusal to allow me to drive within their companies, I then apply for a plate and point to the sociopolitical, and economic grounds of being discriminated against as a driver. The HRA, would kick in immediately on refusal of the licence. I doubt very much if the council could win in such circumstances. They might just grant the licence rather than fight the case.

:-|

We've all ready looked at other ways to achieve our objective, the above is just one of them. :-|

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Frank Lay wrote:
I bet you will be smiling in the unlikely event that it does go ahead, Gary.

You know as well as me that it will bring forth some of the best arguments for derestricting the numbers in Edinburgh that you have ever had.

One company with control of most of the taxis in Edinburgh, with the power that it brings to be able to (a large extent) control who can come into the trade as a driver (Never mind owner).

Ah well, they will get what they deserve.

Who will be the first company or person to ask for more plates to be issued?. A reasonable request for any company that would wish to compete with a combined company that controls most of the plates in the city. How on earth could crt/cc reasonably argue against that?


I could make that argument at the present moment. All I have to do is apply to the ugly sisters to become a driver. Upon their refusal to allow me to drive within their companies, I then apply for a plate and point to the sociopolitical, and economic grounds of being discriminated against as a driver. The HRA, would kick in immediately on refusal of the licence. I doubt very much if the council could win in such circumstances. They might just grant the licence rather than fight the case.

:-|

We've all ready looked at other ways to achieve our objective, the above is just one of them. :-|

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I don't think your "human rights" stuff would cut the mustard, in fact I think it is a lot of nonsense.

But with the same situation, an argument about the abuse of a monopoly position, and the fact that by restricting numbers the council would be enabling that monopoly and its abuse to happen.

No-one has a monoploly position at the moment but if a merger went ahead there certainly would be one.

I also think that it would more likely be a company that would ask for more plates to be issued, so as to enable them to compete fairly.
The council would find it difficult to argue against a request such as that when another company has a monopoly.


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Frank Lay wrote:
I don't think your "human rights" stuff would cut the mustard, in fact I think it is a lot of nonsense.

But with the same situation, an argument about the abuse of a monopoly position, and the fact that by restricting numbers the council would be enabling that monopoly and its abuse to happen.

No-one has a monoploly position at the moment but if a merger went ahead there certainly would be one.

I also think that it would more likely be a company that would ask for more plates to be issued, so as to enable them to compete fairly.
The council would find it difficult to argue against a request such as that when another company has a monopoly.


You don't honestly believe there will be a merger, do you? The committees are hard against it. A merger simply does not serve their interests. Their feasibility study is a joke. Surely, the members of both sides can see what's going on here?

If you need one reason to merge both companies, service to the customer would be it, but you can't run a 900 strong company with a donkey of a committee.

The consultants brought in to do the feasibility were never given a free hand.

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Both committees should be out on their ar*e for lying to their members. :-|

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What a waste of time and members cash. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Spot on again Garry.


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Bit late! :roll:

I phuckin love this job! :P

What d'ya reckon Meek?

Good food, reasonably priced? ha ha ha ha

Merry Christmas. :D

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Isn't it curious how the feasibility study fails to mention anything about the management structure of the new super company, where a merger to go ahead?

Of course Dod, Les, Murray and Bill would all remain on the management payroll. They couldn't possibly stand down. Their expertise would be seen as essential to any professional brought in to run the new super company. It's not like they're just daft wee committee men after all. They must be worth at least 50K, each.

Watch this space, if a merger really is planned their financial punch line is sure to be casually dropped into the conversation at some point, and probably when you are least expect it.

:roll: :-|

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Skull wrote:
Isn't it curious how the feasibility study fails to mention anything about the management structure of the new super company, where a merger to go ahead?

Of course Dod, Les, Murray and Bill would all remain on the management payroll. They couldn't possibly stand down. Their expertise would be seen as essential to any professional brought in to run the new super company. It's not like they're just daft wee committee men after all. They must be worth at least 50K, each.

Watch this space, if a merger really is planned their financial punch line is sure to be casually dropped into the conversation at some point, and probably when you least expect it.

:roll: :-|

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The word is, City Cabs Committee, is saying they need only 50% of the vote to force merger talks through to the next stage, despite their constitution requiring a majority of over 75% of their membership.

It makes you wonder if Dod, Les, Murray and Bill, already have their feet under the table of the new super company.


You can bet your boots. That's what the REAL feasibility study is all about. :shock:

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