Taxi Driver Online

UK cab trade debate and advice
It is currently Fri May 01, 2026 2:32 pm

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37494
Location: Wayneistan
Taxi drivers ‘should belt up’ rules sheriff after fatal crash

The government should force taxi drivers to wear a seatbelt following the death of Gavin McCabe near Dundee

A sheriff has ruled that the government should order taxi drivers to belt up while on the road following a fatal crash near Dundee.

Sheriff George Way issued his recommendation that the current exemption enjoyed by taxi drivers should be withdrawn in his determination after a fatal accident inquiry (FAI) into the death of Gavin McCabe.

Mr McCabe, 41, died in March last year when his taxi was hit by a car driven by a drunk driver attempting to commit suicide.

Mr McCabe had been taking a fare from Perth to Dundee when he was struck by a car driven by Halim Cholmeley.

The force of the impact catapulted Mr McCabe from his Skoda car and out onto the road causing his fatal head injuries.

The accident also left taxi passenger Azeez Butali with serious injuries. The 33-year-old had to be cut from the wreckage, and suffered a broken collar-bone, a chipped bone in his right shoulder and injured ribs.

Sheriff Way recognised that wearing a seatbelt might not necessarily have saved the driver’s life.

However, he concluded the McCabe’s death “might have been avoided” if he had been wearing a seatbelt.

Sheriff Way added: “I can see no reason why taxi drivers should be exempt from the seatbelt regulations. This is particularly clear when one considers that the exception applies even to specially-designed taxi vehicles. All such vehicles now have fully-isolated driver’s cabs which protect them from any risk of assault or robbery.

“Private hire vehicles could have safety screens fitted if this were necessary to protect the drivers.”

In his judgment after the FAI at Dundee Sheriff Court earlier in the year, Sheriff Way argues that the exemption from wearing seatbelts has encouraged an attitude among taxi drivers that it is “their professional right” to be exempt.

He added: “Acceptance of this blinds them to their own health and safety.”

Roundabout

Sheriff Way noted “Mr McCabe was driving in a perfectly safe manner when his vehicle was struck by a driver who entered a roundabout at excessive speeds apparently bent upon suicide.

“Taxi drivers encounter as many unforeseen hazards on the roads as any other road user.”

The sheriff is now recommending that Scottish ministers and the transport secretary urgently review regulations.

He also recommends them to withdraw with the exemption from wearing seatbelts as applicable to taxi drivers.

In March this year 36-year-old Halim Cholmeley was jailed for six years at the High Court in Edinburgh after admitting driving dangerously while subject to a driving ban, taking his
girlfriend’s BMW without consent, and doing so while under the influence of alcohol.

But one taxi organisation disagreed and said wearing seatbelts would place cab drivers more at risk.

A spokesman for the Dundee Taxi Association said: “Taxi drivers do not normally drive at high speeds and are usually driving around town centres, so I am not sure that wearing seatbelts would save more lives.

“We are facing increasing health and safety dangers, including a rise in attacks on taxi drivers. Wearing a seatbelt makes it very easy for passengers in the back to slip it around the driver’s neck and stab them or throttle them.

“While they may save some lives in a really bad smash, they could create other problems for taxi drivers.

“The sheriff doesn’t drive a taxi and doesn’t know the ins and outs. He cannot prove that a seatbelt would have saved the driver’s life in this case.”

source: http://news.stv.tv/scotland/tayside/

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:57 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:07 am
Posts: 2596
Location: Hampshire (HC)
There's a lot of sense in that article.

I admit I'm one of those who exercise the 'professional right' not to belt up. That article is food for thought.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 57350
Location: 1066 Country
Did it really take a month to get through to Carlisle?

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... hp?t=15088

Perhaps Mr Flanagan is right. :D

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:22 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:11 pm
Posts: 8119
Location: A Villa in Aston NO MORE!
Sussex wrote:
Did it really take a month to get through to Carlisle?

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... hp?t=15088

Perhaps Mr Flanagan is right. :D


:lol:

_________________
Kind regards,

Brummie Cabbie.

Type a message, post your news,
Disagree with other members' views;
But please, do have some decorum,
When debating on the TDO Forum.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:56 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37494
Location: Wayneistan
Sussex wrote:

Perhaps Mr Flanagan is right. :D


I think even terry will admit he's left. :wink:

CC

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:51 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:47 pm
Posts: 62
Location: Northampton
on the issue of safety.. ( ignoring that this was a sallon car..) why does nobody shout that TX taxis, being comercial. Are exempt from airbag regulations..
I struggle to understand why a new TX costs £30k + and doesn't have one as standard.. or rear speakers etc.. etc..
(info based on 59 plate model..)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 57350
Location: 1066 Country
M4rcs wrote:
on the issue of safety.. ( ignoring that this was a sallon car..) why does nobody shout that TX taxis, being comercial. Are exempt from airbag regulations..
I struggle to understand why a new TX costs £30k + and doesn't have one as standard.. or rear speakers etc.. etc..
(info based on 59 plate model..)

Yet they have them for the USA market.

Clearly the lives of UK drivers aren't as important as the Yanks. :sad:

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Seat Belts
PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:36 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:24 pm
Posts: 5
Location: Burton on Trent
As a private hire driver I choose to excercise my professional right to judge my work situation as it arises. This is the part of the job which all these other professionals such as judges and road safety researchers cannot know, they are not sitting in that drivers seat. When I make the choice not to wear my seat belt I make it in the knowledge of all the risks involved, as I am sure that all professional taxi/ph drivers do. Should I die as a result of a road accident I dont want anyone saying "he wasnt aware of his own safety" that is an insult to out professional judgement. I choose not to wear the belt on local work and I choose to wear it on Motorways because it is higher speed and i am aware of the increase in dangers. As a thought on safety shields that someone thinks can be fitted to the private hire car. Just how many different designs do they estimate would need to be made and how much more cost would be involved.
(well thats my morning rant over)


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 636 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group