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Why, because you say so Dougie? You couldn't be more wrong. The operation of a restricted practice holds people on the airport concourse, creating a target for a terrorist attack. If any terrorist ever targeted the Taxi Rank at the right time and blew himself up in the Perspex tunnel, he would wipe out half the business fraternity of Europe.

You don't restrict the access of people leaving the airport terminal, herd them into a plastic pipe, and force them to queue for their own good. You do it for money. BAA, are putting customers at RISK.

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The only type of transport not available directly from the airport is a train. How are the customers restricted. Your opinion doesn't hold up :-|


Toots, I can't help being a male. It's my gender. I didn't choose to be. It just happened naturally. You don't have to oppose everything I say. Your man problems have nothing to do with me. If you knew anything about BAA, and their operation at Edinburgh Airport, you would not have to ask any mores stupid questions.

If you want to get a flight up, I'll show you around the restricted practice you seem to think doesn't exist?


I think you will find my opinion stacks up perfectly when it comes Edinburgh Airport.

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Why, because you say so Dougie? You couldn't be more wrong. The operation of a restricted practice holds people on the airport concourse, creating a target for a terrorist attack. If any terrorist ever targeted the Taxi Rank at the right time and blew himself up in the Perspex tunnel, he would wipe out half the business fraternity of Europe.

You don't restrict the access of people leaving the airport terminal, herd them into a plastic pipe, and force them to queue for their own good. You do it for money. BAA, are putting customers at RISK.

:-|


The only type of transport not available directly from the airport is a train. How are the customers restricted. Your opinion doesn't hold up :-|


Toots, I can't help being a male. It's my gender. I didn't choose to be. It just happened naturally. You don't have to oppose everything I say. Your man problems have nothing to do with me. If you knew anything about BAA, and their operation at Edinburgh Airport, you would not have to ask any mores stupid questions.

If you want to get a flight up, I'll show you around the restricted practice you seem to think doesn't exist?


I think you will find my opinion stacks up perfectly when it comes Edinburgh Airport.


I don't know why you keep bringing up 'men problems' that I don't have and I don't see how you think it's relevant. Is Edinburgh airport any different from any other busy airport in the country. I don't see why I would come up there so you can show me the transportation available to customers at the airport. They can use a bus, a taxi, a private hire, a limo, a coach and their own car to get to and from the airport, how does that make the customer restricted?

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Anybody else care to keep score - there are more points scored than in a fast game of basketball.

On multiple threads makes it even harder to keep track.

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So, in your mind Toots, there is no, restricted practice in operation at Edinburgh Airport. The customer has free and unfettered access to the services they require. As does the service provider to the customer. BAA, is not really charging money for selling people on as a commodity to the service provider. We are all just happy to hand BAA, money for our good health.


Well, Toots, it's difficult for me to argue with that kind of logic. Tell me Toots. You haven't been speaking to CC, by any chance?
:-| :shock: :lol:

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Didnt hear any similar bitchin about the same practice thats been going on by the same company at other British airports by the gay twosome.

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Didnt hear any similar bitchin about the same practice thats been going on by the same company at other British airports by the gay twosome.

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According to Toots, it's not even happening, it is all just a figment of our fantastic imaginations.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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So, in your mind Toots, there is no, restricted practice in operation at Edinburgh Airport. The customer has free and unfettered access to the services they require. As does the service provider to the customer. BAA, is not really charging money for selling people on as a commodity to the service provider. We are all just happy to hand BAA, money for our good health.


Well, Toots, it's difficult for me to argue with that kind of logic. Tell me Toots. You haven't been speaking to CC, by any chance?
:-| :shock: :lol:


So you think because they charge businesses for access to their airport it's restricted. Do you think customers are restricted to shops because of car park fees right throughout the UK. Do you think the customers at the airport are restricted if they decide to pay and leave their car there whilst they go away?

Yes I have been talking to CC about training, we didn't agree. Why do you need know?

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Didnt hear any similar bitchin about the same practice thats been going on by the same company at other British airports by the gay twosome.

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According to Toots, it's not even happening, it is all just a figment of our fantastic imaginations.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Its been happening at Newcastle airport for a little while......add a quid or drop the punter off at the gates.

Or ask the council to allow an extra charge for the airport covering the cost.

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So, in your mind Toots, there is no, restricted practice in operation at Edinburgh Airport. The customer has free and unfettered access to the services they require. As does the service provider to the customer. BAA, is not really charging money for selling people on as a commodity to the service provider. We are all just happy to hand BAA, money for our good health.


Well, Toots, it's difficult for me to argue with that kind of logic. Tell me Toots. You haven't been speaking to CC, by any chance?
:-| :shock: :lol:


So you think because they charge businesses for access to their airport it's restricted. Do you think customers are restricted to shops because of car park fees right throughout the UK. Do you think the customers at the airport are restricted if they decide to pay and leave their car there whilst they go away?

Yes I have been talking to CC about training, we didn't agree. Why do you need know?


Are you deliberately being obtuse?


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So, in your mind Toots, there is no, restricted practice in operation at Edinburgh Airport. The customer has free and unfettered access to the services they require. As does the service provider to the customer. BAA, is not really charging money for selling people on as a commodity to the service provider. We are all just happy to hand BAA, money for our good health.

Well, Toots, it's difficult for me to argue with that kind of logic. Tell me Toots. You haven't been speaking to CC, by any chance?


It has nothing to do with car parks, shops, or cars. It's about access, and whether or not it is being fettered, or restricted, with the sole purpose of turning the customer into a commodity to be sold to the service provider.

No restriction. No payment.

Only free and unfettered access for both the customer and the service provider- THE END

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Personally I think all Ports, airports, bus stations, Railway stations, ferry terminals and any other transport "Hub" should allow free access.

But they don't.

With your reasoning however, if a member of the Public wanted to travel from, in this case, Edinburgh Airport to the Port of Leith, and you provided them with the way to reach their destination, you would "fetter" them with a Taxi fare.

You pay your LA, driver and vehicle licence fees. They provide you, amongst other things, with ranks. These ranks are signed, painted etc.

You don't pay the airport a license fee but you want them to provide in effect, a rank.

Aircraft companies pay "Landing fees" on the airside.

They now want Taxis to pay a "rank fee".

I don't like it.

I do understand it.

Get "all charges accrued during or as a result of hiring the vehicle to be added to the fare" included on your tariff, then charge the punter and let the punters do the complaining to whichever "Hub" is doing the charging.

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Personally I think all Ports, airports, bus stations, Railway stations, ferry terminals and any other transport "Hub" should allow free access.

But they don't.

With your reasoning however, if a member of the Public wanted to travel from, in this case, Edinburgh Airport to the Port of Leith, and you provided them with the way to reach their destination, you would "fetter" them with a Taxi fare.

You pay your LA, driver and vehicle licence fees. They provide you, amongst other things, with ranks. These ranks are signed, painted etc.

You don't pay the airport a license fee but you want them to provide in effect, a rank.

Aircraft companies pay "Landing fees" on the airside.

They now want Taxis to pay a "rank fee".

I don't like it.

I do understand it.

Get "all charges accrued during or as a result of hiring the vehicle to be added to the fare" included on your tariff, then charge the punter and let the punters do the complaining to whichever "Hub" is doing the charging.


Are you fecking mad? You are licensed to pick up within a given area. That's why you meet your LA's requirements and pay for a licence. You shouldn't be paying private companies to pick people up. That's your job. Customers should not be turned into commodities to be sold on to licensed taxis by private companies. Customers are not commodities. They are people who are supposed to be free to exercise their unfettered choice in a free and democratic society.

You work in the hire and reward industry. No one is being fettered to pay for a taxi fare, it's a choice.

And to think people died so the ar*eholes on this forum could have an “opinion”.

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And to think people died so the ar*eholes on this forum could have an “opinion”.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yes aren't you the lucky one.

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Are you fecking mad? You are licensed to pick up within a given area. That's why you meet your LA's requirements and pay for a licence. You shouldn't be paying private companies to pick people up.:


I think you might find the land is private and belongs to someone. They are entitled to charge.

In actual fact, they could boot all taxis off the land and replace them with private hire.......they have done elsewhere.

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Are you fecking mad? You are licensed to pick up within a given area. That's why you meet your LA's requirements and pay for a licence. You shouldn't be paying private companies to pick people up.:


I think you might find the land is private and belongs to someone. They are entitled to charge.

In actual fact, they could boot all taxis off the land and replace them with private hire.......they have done elsewhere.

CC



Do you get the felling we are back where we started?

Restrictive Business Practices (RBP)


Abuse of dominant market position by private or public sector producers in preventing or restricting entry of new suppliers, or otherwise restraining fair and open competition. RBP include apportioning of customers or markets among themselves, collusion to fix prices, and/or discriminatory pricing. Also called restrictive trade practices.

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Do you get the felling we are back where we started?

Restrictive Business Practices (RBP)


Abuse of dominant market position by private or public sector producers in preventing or restricting entry of new suppliers, or otherwise restraining fair and open competition. RBP include apportioning of customers or markets among themselves, collusion to fix prices, and/or discriminatory pricing. Also called restrictive trade practices.


Yes I agree with you, we have come full circle.

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