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Taxi boss says sorry to customers for fare rise Hackney Drivers Association Ltd chairman, Charle Oakes, with his letter of apology at Preston City Hall

Published on Sat Nov 13 09:51:31 GMT 2010


A taxi trade boss today apologised to the people of Preston for a 10p per mile hike in day-time fares.


Charlie Oakes, chairman of the Bolton, Bury and Preston Hackney Carriage Association, took the step after taxi bosses at the city council agreed to the price rise.

Members of the Preston Hackney Carriage Association proposed the increase, saying it was necessary to mitigate the rising costs of insurance, fuel and taxi licences faced by drivers.

But Mr Oakes said “the majority” of his members, a total of 79, were against the move and he had lodged an objection with the council.

At the end of a 10-minute Town Hall meeting, members of the taxi sub-committee approved the fare rise for the Tariff One charge which applies from 7am until 11pm.

It means the cost of travelling two miles in a Hackney carriage will rise to £4.80. Preston currently has 298 Hackney drivers. Private hire vehicle charges are not affected.

A furious Mr Oakes, who said he had 164 Preston members, said: “We basically want to apologise to the public of Preston who will now have to pay (more).

“It will hit the shoppers, the poor pensioners will have to pay about 10p a mile more.

“We objected and we didn’t get a chance to have a say.

“It’s totally wrong that a majority of drivers should be dictated to by a minority of drivers.

“There should have been consultation with both memberships to get a feel for what the drivers wanted.

“It’s a travesty that the council have absolutely ignored us and never wanted to look at the forms that I took of the signatures of 94 drivers that I’d balloted.

“Nobody in this country would turn their nose up at a pay rise. The problem is we’re in the grip of massive cuts. We will lose work.”

However Mark Selley, secretary of the 50-member Preston Hackney Carriage Association, said there had not been one objection from the public and, even with the increase, Preston prices were still less than South Ribble, Fylde and Ribble Valley.

He said: “We don’t believe that Mr Oakes’ objection was anything to do with serving the best interests of the public, just to do with him trying to strike a blow against our association.

“Most of the public see what it costs for a litre of diesel, they know how expensive insurance is and, when push comes to shove, a tariff increase that adds 20p to a two-mile journey is not excessive.

“The licensing committee will only act in what they see as the best interests of the public.”

Mike Thorpe, head of licensing at Preston Council, said there would be a cost of around £10 per taxi for “re-calibrating” the meters.

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4thdabolton007
Saturday, November 13, 2010 at 04:04 PM Yes I am sorry IFletcher for my failings they are many but doing what is right for the trade, is not one of them i get slaged off much for my grammer and spelling mainly by those who not know me. but its funney it only a problem to them who dont like what i do, and say. But thank you for spending the time to reply.
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Saturday, November 13, 2010 at 03:54 PM I presume thedabolton is Mr Oakes himself. I shall leave Mr Selley to argue the case wqith Mr Oakes, in the meantime may I reccomend the services of a proofreaderspell checker!
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Saturday, November 13, 2010 at 03:35 PM Should be a minimum 5 quid a mile for carrying some of the s&ite around town that they do..............
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Saturday, November 13, 2010 at 12:27 PM what a fool Mark Selley is Preston Prices were still less than South Ribble, Fyled and Ribble Valley, just what the point is hmost think that will passingers feel better, as they work in Preston. and for the comment the council will act only in the best intrest of the Public, I would like to see were this 3.2% increse plus waiting time, is in the best intrest of the public , may be you would like to ask them. Councillor Terence Geoffrey Thompson Vice-Chair Expected Councillor Mrs Pauline Mary Brown Committee Councillor John William Browne Committee THIS COUNCILLOR SECONED IT. Councillor Joyce Cartwright Committee Councillor Carl Crompton Committee, THIS COUNCILLOR PROPOSED THAT THEY AGREED Councillor Mrs Constance Margaret McManus Committee Councillor John Swindells Committee And they all agreed it, do you think it was in your intrest at this time.
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I think preston musy be the hot air capital of Britain !

as well as bottom of the championship oh shock horror a darren ferguson managed team bottom of the table :lol: :lol:


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FFS it's only ten f***ing pence.

The more the trade make a meal of it the worse it will be for the trade. :sad:

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As is said so many times on here, the driver can always give a discount to the punter if they are so incensed with the increase

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No its not just only 10p its 10p every mile plus w/t, and what about the majority of the trade that dont want it the rise.

maind you i got what i exspected.

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No its not just only 10p its 10p every mile plus w/t, and what about the majority of the trade that dont want it the rise.

maind you i got what i exspected.

I can understand your point, but my point is this isn't going to stop the world.

By all means have a ruck, FFS I'm the last one to say don't, but don't do it over 10p a mile. Even if it is every mile.

The implications of the Equalities Act, deserve a ruck.

The implications over Cross-Border Hirings, deserve a ruck.

The implications over the abuse of Section 52, deserve a ruck.

The implications of assaults on drivers, deserve a ruck.

The implications of fixed penalty fines on drivers, deserve a ruck.

And no doubt fellow TDOers could list their own 'deserve a ruck' criteria.

But rucking with each other over 10p a mile ain't worth it.

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The price on your meter is classed as the maximum you can charge (you cant overcharge ) But you can under charge by whatever you want.

So run the meter to whatever the old price for the job would have been and stop the meter.

A few times you'll forget then it'll be on all the time lol

10ppm even if it is for every mile aint a lot :roll:

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Nice pic of Charles :lol: http://www.lep.co.uk/news/lep-business/ ... _1_2758339


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Ouch, did you read this??

Just knock the said 10 pence off at the end of the fare....drivers are in control...shame they are uneducated and have to ply their living,ferrying drunken Preston scum! Re-train....stop moaning and better yourself!!
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Not by best but will do, -

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Ouch, did you read this??

Just knock the said 10 pence off at the end of the fare....drivers are in control...shame they are uneducated and have to ply their living,ferrying drunken Preston scum! Re-train....stop moaning and better yourself!!
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stop moaning?, unlike a lot of rep out there I do as my members ask, now call me old which i am, but as long as i can remenber it was always a majority thing for a fare increse.

Its not just 10P its 10per Mile after the frist Mile, and only days nothing on the nights.

well the P/hire will benifit.

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 Post subject: Re: No its not
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charles007 wrote:
No its not just only 10p its 10p every mile plus w/t, and what about the majority of the trade that dont want it the rise.

maind you i got what i exspected.

I can understand your point, but my point is this isn't going to stop the world.

By all means have a ruck, FFS I'm the last one to say don't, but don't do it over 10p a mile. Even if it is every mile.

The implications of the Equalities Act, deserve a ruck.

The implications over Cross-Border Hirings, deserve a ruck.

The implications over the abuse of Section 52, deserve a ruck.

The implications of assaults on drivers, deserve a ruck.

The implications of fixed penalty fines on drivers, deserve a ruck.

And no doubt fellow TDOers could list their own 'deserve a ruck' criteria.

But rucking with each other over 10p a mile ain't worth it.



is it not well My members think it is, and for what its worth i agree with the other issues, were is the, NTA, gmb, TAG, the big boys who have got the ear of them who matter, but even more then that were is the support coming from that will back then. my views got me kick out of the NTA, oh sorry not paying them.

I know about spelling and Gramer but i give 110%, in time.

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charles007 wrote:
No its not just only 10p its 10p every mile plus w/t, and what about the majority of the trade that dont want it the rise.

maind you i got what i exspected.


and when fuel goes up it goes up per ltr, and the 10p rise is less than the rise councillors vote for thier expenses

WHY UNDERVALUE THE JOB?


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charles007 wrote:
No its not just only 10p its 10p every mile plus w/t, and what about the majority of the trade that dont want it the rise.

maind you i got what i exspected.


and when fuel goes up it goes up per ltr, and the 10p rise is less than the rise councillors vote for thier expenses

WHY UNDERVALUE THE JOB?


I agree 100% =D> =D>


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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: 10p, I couldn’t believe what I was reading!!! That 10p will pail into insignificance after the vat and fuel escalator rise in January I would say at least £1.27 /litre, even now it's £1.22 in some areas then it will be 2.5% extra vat on all your parts for your vehicle. I don't think you have much of an argument about an increase and even if its the lack of a democratic vote that you complain of, I think the rise is a reasonable one. Most insurances have increased 30/40% how much has yours gone up? £200.... more? The reality is that you are wrong but as other learned members have already stated you can always under charge....but I bet you won't because you will start to realise the reality of the large bills you WILL receive in the next 12 months.
As for the Sorry bit, well that's just good PR. The Taxi boss is just pushing the blame off himself and his drivers. I suspect he will not drop his prices though!! :wink: :wink:


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