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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:34 pm 
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and work is on the way down, to put up fares will only lead at this time to loss of work.


This is not necessarily the case otherwise the dearer firms would have no business as it would always go to the cheaper firms and that quite simply doesn't happen

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and work is on the way down, to put up fares will only lead at this time to loss of work.


Work is on the way down whether you put your fares up or not, if they cannot afford the extra 50p on a 5 mile journey then they probably cannot afford it with the 50p knocked off either.

If it bothers you that much why don't you put an advertisement in the local paper informing the public the majority of your 79 members will knock the extra 10p a mile off the metered fare at the end of the journey.

The metered fare is the maximum you can charge not what you have to charge.


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Mr Oakes,
Thank-you, your kind words are appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Yes they do
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well yes they do and the P/hire will be very grateful they can put there fees up and still be cheper than a cab, and people will vote with there feet.


I'm not bothered about private hire they're a different trade, I'm bothered about costs, if the costs to a business rise the prices that business must rise, thats just simple economics.

Keeping the fares the same whilst costs rise will not gain a single extra customer.

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 Post subject: Re: Yes they do
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well yes they do and the P/hire will be very grateful they can put there fees up and still be cheper than a cab, and people will vote with there feet.

I'm not bothered about private hire they're a different trade, I'm bothered about costs, if the costs to a business rise the prices that business must rise, thats just simple economics.

Keeping the fares the same whilst costs rise will not gain a single extra customer.

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Music to my ears!!!

I do wish some of our lot would realise that.

They want to compete with private hire, which as you say is a different trade.

But private hire run at 90p to £1.00 a mile.

So to really compete Hackney Carriage should run at the same rate?

FFS!!!

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Mr Oakes,
Thank-you, your kind words are appreciated.


No problem Mark, may i call you Mark i no when i am licked, and had my backside as been well and truely Kick by a better person, them me and i am man enough to admit it.

and I promise that you will see a change in the way i work from now on it you cant beat then join them.

I should have taken a leaf out of your Book in how to deal with the council

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Charles, One could view this as a watershed but the cynic in me detects a whiff of sarcasm and methinks 'could a leopard really change it's spots?'

Mutual respect, constructive dialogue and negotiation is how, in our view, one achieves success when dealing with a Council, if you are ready to embrace this philosophy, well then the future (in Preston) could be rosy.....actions speak louder than words!

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Awww it's a love in :D I'm sure if the two sides could work together that would only result in a more united trade and only for the better imo :D

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charles007 wrote:
Mark Selley wrote:
Mr Oakes,
Thank-you, your kind words are appreciated.


No problem Mark, may i call you Mark i no when i am licked, and had my backside as been well and truely Kick by a better person, them me and i am man enough to admit it.

and I promise that you will see a change in the way i work from now on it you cant beat then join them.

I should have taken a leaf out of your Book in how to deal with the council


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charles007 wrote:
Mark Selley wrote:
Mr Oakes,
Thank-you, your kind words are appreciated.


No problem Mark, may i call you Mark i no when i am licked, and had my backside as been well and truely Kick by a better person, them me and i am man enough to admit it.

and I promise that you will see a change in the way i work from now on it you cant beat then join them.

I should have taken a leaf out of your Book in how to deal with the council


Charlie IEspell is your mate.

www.iespell.com


I don't think iespell can guess what Charles means. All the words he has spelt are correct :wink:

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Mark Selley wrote:
Charles, One could view this as a watershed but the cynic in me detects a whiff of sarcasm and methinks 'could a leopard really change it's spots?'

Mutual respect, constructive dialogue and negotiation is how, in our view, one achieves success when dealing with a Council, if you are ready to embrace this philosophy, well then the future (in Preston) could be rosy.....actions speak louder than words!


I understand your concerns, & I think on this occasion you may well be correct too. However, Charles has on numerous occasions said that he "only does what his members request of him", which in itself is foolhardy but difficult not to, when they are your paymasters.

He was invited over to Preston from Bolton ultimately to replace you, M Selley, but correct proceedings were not followed regarding organising the required EAGM to vote you out.

This must have pished off the Organ Grinders controlling Charles, and thus instructed him to do whatever he could to be the one and only trade representative in Preston. So far they have not succeeded.

So maybe Charles has come to realise that the irrational wants of those controlling him, are more about personal vendettas than the good of the trade.

Maybe just maybe, years of feet stomping, court appearances, Town Hall rejections & embarrassing frequent news stories about him, maybe he has realised that rational requests & dialogue are the best ways to get as close as, or exactly what you want.

Mark, you may now kiss the Charles.

Seriously, more dialogue between you both and work together for the good of the trade.


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Roger Didley wrote:
he "only does what his members request of him", which in itself is foolhardy but difficult not to, when they are your paymasters.


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Roger Didley wrote:
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Charles, One could view this as a watershed but the cynic in me detects a whiff of sarcasm and methinks 'could a leopard really change it's spots?'

Mutual respect, constructive dialogue and negotiation is how, in our view, one achieves success when dealing with a Council, if you are ready to embrace this philosophy, well then the future (in Preston) could be rosy.....actions speak louder than words!


I understand your concerns, & I think on this occasion you may well be correct too. However, Charles has on numerous occasions said that he "only does what his members request of him", which in itself is foolhardy but difficult not to, when they are your paymasters.

He was invited over to Preston from Bolton ultimately to replace you, M Selley, but correct proceedings were not followed regarding organising the required EAGM to vote you out.

I was not to ask to replace Mr Selley i had never seen Mr Selley till much later, This all strated at a regioional 5Meeting of the NTA, and the then secretary i cant recall this name, but was leveing the taxi tarde and would be going to and from Ireland it was he do asked me to go though and if the meember like what they saw to take over.

and he was at some of the meeting.

This must have pished off the Organ Grinders controlling Charles, and thus instructed him to do whatever he could to be the one and only trade representative in Preston. So far they have not succeeded.

So maybe Charles has come to realise that the irrational wants of those controlling him, are more about personal vendettas than the good of the trade.

Maybe just maybe, years of feet stomping, court appearances, Town Hall rejections & embarrassing frequent news stories about him, maybe he has realised that rational requests & dialogue are the best ways to get as close as, or exactly what you want.

Mark, you may now kiss the Charles.

Seriously, more dialogue between you both and work together for the good of the trade.


A lot of what you say is right, But our both my Solictors and now our Barrister have said we have a case, what pepole dont tell you on here is that that at the Last meeting were we took over PHCA, arranged bye our Solicitor, and he was at the meeting and took the mintues.

So was the now Chairmen of the NTA, Preston council were invited which they did not come and we did not expect them to.

I went to Mr Selley home and pushed a letter though is door which was in line with the PHCA Rules, Mr Selley did turn up just as i was leaving and was also witnessed, the letter was signed by the committee.

Mr Selley was remove as treasure and remove as a member of PCHA, he took the money fron the Bank a few thousands and opened a Assocciation in the name of the PHCA, this association as the Original association and have the bank account opened in that Name.

Most of the Drivers dont like Mr Selley and nver had. he never tuned up at any of te meeting of NTA, are any of the meeting in preston either.

Now i would love to have my day in court with Mr Selley, and others but the cost would wipe out the money which the Orignal PHCA.

The members agree with me we do have some time the FSO, say its not for them but the courts.

But the time may come, there is a little time left yet, it was all above Board with i and the T crossed.

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Mr Oakes,
I cannot believe you are still peddling these lies!
If there was one tiny shred of legitimacy in your claims you would have sorted it in court and proved your case once an for all.
In doing so, proved that Charles Oakes was indeed right while the following were wrong; NTA, Preston City Council (Licensing dept and Licensing Committee) , Yorkshire Bank (Preston Branch and Legal Dept. Head Office), PHCA , PHCA's Solicitors, also even your Solicitor who would not respond when asked to provide credible evidence!

Put up or shut up, do not use this forum to attempt to repair your
shattered credibility and alter the widely held opinion that you are a buffoon!
You are a laughing stock and my colleagues at PHCA will not allow you to tarnish the reputation of Preston's Hackney trade.

A leopard cannot change it's spots!

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