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your slavering again dougie

try and stick to the facts

its a fascinating insight into your mind :shock:


I sense you lot are worried :D :D :D

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not me, sold up.

Dougie hasn't thats why he's sheeting himself
me ill have my cake and eat it thank you very much. :wink:


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your slavering again dougie

try and stick to the facts

its a fascinating insight into your mind :shock:


I sense you lot are worried :D :D :D

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btw way! are you saying you can make any sense out of Dougie's last post


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i cant believe you really think this is a debate :oops:

their is nothing to debate :shock:

its just an idea Dougie! your idea.

and anyone will tell you it cant happen,not in this country under current legislation.FACT FACT FACT

nothing wrong with ideas,nothing wrong with trying.

but try and adapt otherwise you'll be beating your head against a brick wall for a very long time,or a pavement in market street whatever comes first. :lol:

CURRENT LEGISLATION :lol: :lol:

This is where we identify what exactly is in Yours ,Skull and Taylors heads :lol: :lol: Your heads are so en-crusted with CURRENT LEGISLATION that i fear a blockage may be hampering your vision for the future :lol: :lol: :lol:

"The years of reading Current legislation :lol: :lol: Sh-t i forgot about the future, the government is allowed to change Current legislation :lol: :lol: ".

So no exit strategy then A,S and TTTTTTT :lol: :lol: :lol:

This proves you 3 have your own agenda, not team players eh :lol: :lol: OK your a team of 3 :lol: :lol: :lol: With ECPH as subs eh :lol: :lol: :lol: God help you Taylor ECPH are going to be very angry with you :lol: :lol: :lol: You've made them look really foolish :wink:
your slavering again dougie

try and stick to the facts

its a fascinating insight into your mind :shock:

Insignificant response :lol: :lol:
Try again :?: can you :lol:

Fact de-restriction opens the floodgates to infiltrators, profiteers and ABUSER of the allocation system

We know what catergory you come in at and you even done it in a restricted market, god help in a de-restricted market

We need a NEW system of restriction, NEW legislation, now don't tell anyone but we are going to feck the ABUSERS of the allocation system sshh nudge nudge :wink: :wink:

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ALI T wrote:
not me, sold up.

Dougie hasn't thats why he's sheeting himself
me ill have my cake and eat it thank you very much. :wink:


You sold another?

How much?

It'll come in handy if we know, because we'll need this kind of information to put in front of the government :D

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ALI T wrote:
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your slavering again dougie

try and stick to the facts

its a fascinating insight into your mind :shock:


I sense you lot are worried :D :D :D

CC

not me, sold up.

Dougie hasn't thats why he's sheeting himself
me ill have my cake and eat it thank you very much. :wink:


The only significance to me holding my plate is an income, one of which i'm in control of so yes i'm protecting my income but not my plate value, i only bought for £17k so my investment in my plate was insignificant as far as gaining a return on it goes

quote: A Taxi driver never retires he just dies

That's how i see my future
I love my job too much

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captain cab wrote:
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not me, sold up.

Dougie hasn't thats why he's sheeting himself
me ill have my cake and eat it thank you very much. :wink:


You sold another?

How much?

It'll come in handy if we know, because we'll need this kind of information to put in front of the government :D

CC

2 plates
80k as quoted on another thread :shock:

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Private Reggie wrote:
ALI T wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
ALI T wrote:
i cant believe you really think this is a debate :oops:

their is nothing to debate :shock:

its just an idea Dougie! your idea.

and anyone will tell you it cant happen,not in this country under current legislation.FACT FACT FACT

nothing wrong with ideas,nothing wrong with trying.

but try and adapt otherwise you'll be beating your head against a brick wall for a very long time,or a pavement in market street whatever comes first. :lol:

CURRENT LEGISLATION :lol: :lol:

This is where we identify what exactly is in Yours ,Skull and Taylors heads :lol: :lol: Your heads are so en-crusted with CURRENT LEGISLATION that i fear a blockage may be hampering your vision for the future :lol: :lol: :lol:

"The years of reading Current legislation :lol: :lol: Sh-t i forgot about the future, the government is allowed to change Current legislation :lol: :lol: ".

So no exit strategy then A,S and TTTTTTT :lol: :lol: :lol:

This proves you 3 have your own agenda, not team players eh :lol: :lol: OK your a team of 3 :lol: :lol: :lol: With ECPH as subs eh :lol: :lol: :lol: God help you Taylor ECPH are going to be very angry with you :lol: :lol: :lol: You've made them look really foolish :wink:
your slavering again dougie

try and stick to the facts

its a fascinating insight into your mind :shock:

Insignificant response :lol: :lol:
Try again :?: can you :lol:

Fact de-restriction opens the floodgates to infiltrators, profiteers and ABUSER of the allocation system

We know what catergory you come in at and you even done it in a restricted market, god help in a de-restricted market

We need a NEW system of restriction, NEW legislation, now don't tell anyone but we are going to feck the ABUSERS of the allocation system sshh nudge nudge :wink: :wink:

i agree :shock:
you would need new legislation in order to make that work

now that you've finally realized that we need new legislation.
tell me how your going to convince parliament that its needed,
and your timescale for this passing into law :lol:


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btw way! are you saying you can make any sense out of Dougie's last post


I made more sense out of Dougies post than your sense of humour.

:lol:

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ALI T wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
ALI T wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
ALI T wrote:
i cant believe you really think this is a debate :oops:

their is nothing to debate :shock:

its just an idea Dougie! your idea.

and anyone will tell you it cant happen,not in this country under current legislation.FACT FACT FACT

nothing wrong with ideas,nothing wrong with trying.

but try and adapt otherwise you'll be beating your head against a brick wall for a very long time,or a pavement in market street whatever comes first. :lol:

CURRENT LEGISLATION :lol: :lol:

This is where we identify what exactly is in Yours ,Skull and Taylors heads :lol: :lol: Your heads are so en-crusted with CURRENT LEGISLATION that i fear a blockage may be hampering your vision for the future :lol: :lol: :lol:

"The years of reading Current legislation :lol: :lol: Sh-t i forgot about the future, the government is allowed to change Current legislation :lol: :lol: ".

So no exit strategy then A,S and TTTTTTT :lol: :lol: :lol:

This proves you 3 have your own agenda, not team players eh :lol: :lol: OK your a team of 3 :lol: :lol: :lol: With ECPH as subs eh :lol: :lol: :lol: God help you Taylor ECPH are going to be very angry with you :lol: :lol: :lol: You've made them look really foolish :wink:
your slavering again dougie

try and stick to the facts

its a fascinating insight into your mind :shock:

Insignificant response :lol: :lol:
Try again :?: can you :lol:

Fact de-restriction opens the floodgates to infiltrators, profiteers and ABUSER of the allocation system

We know what catergory you come in at and you even done it in a restricted market, god help in a de-restricted market

We need a NEW system of restriction, NEW legislation, now don't tell anyone but we are going to feck the ABUSERS of the allocation system sshh nudge nudge :wink: :wink:

i agree :shock:
you would need new legislation in order to make that work

now that you've finally realized that we need new legislation.
tell me how your going to convince parliament that its needed,
and your timescale for this passing into law :lol:


I have been told that if it's the WILL of the Trade then CEC and Transport Scotland will move forward, It's common knowledge that the government want to change to stop infiltrators, profiteers and abusers of the allocation system, the government accept there is no going back on the current system, you know that de-restriction would be too costly to CEC, we already have plate value's and with other european countries adopting the medallion system, change CAN happen and in much less time than Taylor and SKULL's mission to de-restrict, legislation can be changed pretty quickly if the WILL is there

Ali you know it makes sense to change, it is coming :wink:

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Private Reggie wrote:
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captain cab wrote:
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your slavering again dougie

try and stick to the facts

its a fascinating insight into your mind :shock:


I sense you lot are worried :D :D :D

CC

not me, sold up.

Dougie hasn't thats why he's sheeting himself
me ill have my cake and eat it thank you very much. :wink:


The only significance to me holding my plate is an income, one of which i'm in control of so yes i'm protecting my income but not my plate value, i only bought for £17k so my investment in my plate was insignificant as far as gaining a return on it goes

quote: A Taxi driver never retires he just dies

That's how i see my future
I love my job too much
funnily enough thats the only significance it has to a driver who doesn't hold a plate, an income.

but you would deny others their fair whack.

you are trying to protect the plate value,or rather your trying to make sure their is a limited supply of taxi's so that you have a certain amount of punters.

your anti competitive dougie.
in fact ill go further and say your discriminatory against your fellow workers.

you love your job

you are living in fear pal,fear of whats round the corner :wink:


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costly to cec ????
how so dougie ???

don't you know how this game is played.

the buck is being passed to the courts.

their will be no compo for people that bought non transferable licenses
that is what is really going on hear Dougie.

its an accounting exercise

i know ive seen the inland revenue do very similar things,when they cant get the books to balance. :wink:


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So lets recap and lets use some facts, which admittedly are a strange thing in the Scottish section;

Malta recently earned £1 million pounds through selling 20 licenses.

Southampton issued 4 and earned a grand total of £720.

A medallion type system would earn councils potentially millions of pounds, those millions of pounds are already allegedly spent on some alleged black market anyway.

The threesome want delimitation which would earn a local authority only the cost of issuing a license.

If Edinburgh were to delimit, based on evidence elsewhere there is a chance the fleet of taxis would increase by 1/3rd within 6 months, which is a conservative estimate to say the least.

Cardiff's taxi fleet doubled in a matter of 7 years.

Liverpool's fleet rose from 400 to 1200 within 2 years.

Carlisle's taxi fleet increased from 33 to 150 within 18 months.

I dont know the number of taxis in Edinburgh, at a guess I'd say 1200?

If 400 extra licenses were to be issued at £30K each this would earn the local authority some £12 million.

If this type of money is available to local authorities, it isn't beyond my imagination that any government, given the fact they have no money, would seriously look at this idea.

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ALI T wrote:
costly to cec ????
how so dougie ???

don't you know how this game is played.

the buck is being passed to the courts.

their will be no compo for people that bought non transferable licenses
that is what is really going on hear Dougie.

its an accounting exercise

i know ive seen the inland revenue do very similar things,when they cant get the books to balance. :wink:

Non transferable but you just have and at a profit of 80k aye right AliT :roll: :roll:

Have you any knowledge of the leasing of pubs and the selling of that lease for profit? Pub leases are commercial i accept but the principle is the same

Another Insignificant response from the AliT current legislation guru :lol: :lol:

I don't care about compo ect what will be will be

You have again shown your distructive side of which is 90% of your thinking :roll: :roll:

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So lets recap and lets use some facts, which admittedly are a strange thing in the Scottish section;

Malta recently earned £1 million pounds through selling 20 licenses.

Southampton issued 4 and earned a grand total of £720.

A medallion type system would earn councils potentially millions of pounds, those millions of pounds are already allegedly spent on some alleged black market anyway.

The threesome want delimitation which would earn a local authority only the cost of issuing a license.

If Edinburgh were to delimit, based on evidence elsewhere there is a chance the fleet of taxis would increase by 1/3rd within 6 months, which is a conservative estimate to say the least.

Cardiff's taxi fleet doubled in a matter of 7 years.

Liverpool's fleet rose from 400 to 1200 within 2 years.

Carlisle's taxi fleet increased from 33 to 150 within 18 months.

I dont know the number of taxis in Edinburgh, at a guess I'd say 1200?

If 400 extra licenses were to be issued at £30K each this would earn the local authority some £12 million.

If this type of money is available to local authorities, it isn't beyond my imagination that any government, given the fact they have no money, would seriously look at this idea.

CC

1,300 licences in Edinburgh

400 extra is a bit heavy but any increase would have an effect on the PHC market, the New York system could wipe the significance of the PHC right out of Edinburgh

The income by CEC would swell with say a 5% fixed transfer tax for individuals and say 12% transfer tax on multi plate buyers, this could be flexible the more licences held, rising to say 25%

Double the cost of yearly fee's per licence held for multi plate holders and yes a very big carrot is dangling in front of CEC and other LA's

I think it's NEW YORK NEW YORK on this one :D :D :D

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Ali T is a case in point, he basically won the lottery when he was granted a license, the LA get nothing and the plate is sold to someone, probably a fellow driver who faces the investment being flushed down the toilet by the constant pushing of the wannaplates.

If a council were to sell a limited number per year, in accordance with a demand survey, with a prerequisite that the applicant must be a existing licensed driver and the vehicle licensed must be under two years old on first license it virtually guarantees the drivers investment is sound.

The following question was posed on the taxi forum;

Where is the advantage for some young guy wanting to operate his own taxis? I dont see it.

I dont think the person asking this question was entirely serious.

If the young guy mentioned in the question currently wants to obtain a Edinburgh plate, he would pay someone anyway, so what's the difference between an existing licensee getting the money or a council?

Maybe we should ask what the non plate owning drivers think of your suggestion?

The above question is also asked.

Perhaps we should, perhaps we should ask those same drivers if they think its right that someone who got something for nothing should sell that on for £30 to £50 K? Whilst still telling all and sundry that they are doing all in there power to ensure the £30 to £50K they've spent should be nothing.

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