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And yes......I know.....I'm f*cking good. :wink:

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It would seem.... that delimitation of taxi numbers does not stop rapes... another Jasbar theory turned to dust.... :shock:



Look at it this way Mr. T as long as the council has carried out a survey. This rape would be "reasonable" in Wayne's World. :roll:

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Look at it this way Mr. T as long as the council has carried out a survey. This rape would be "reasonable" in Wayne's World. :roll:


You may know about b*ggery.....but you know f*ck all about the Wirral :wink:

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ffs......I got in the bath and there was an earthquake here!

I need to lose weight.

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It would seem.... that delimitation of taxi numbers does not stop rapes... another Jasbar theory turned to dust.... :shock:


No theory of mine. You gotta pay attention. I'll say it again for the hard of thinking like you Mr T. Are you sitting up straight? Then I'll begin.

No council can claim to be protecting public safety unless and until it has done everything it can to protect public safety.

Restricting licences and the availability of taxis, makng it more difficult to get a taxi than it need be, falls well below this benchmark.

De-restricting won't stop rapes happening, but it would limit the opportunity for them to happen.

I know it's difficult when you're looking through vested interest tinted glasses Mr T, but did you get it?



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There is no doubt about it CC, Dougie is nuts. And you've encouraged his delusional tendencies with this medallion nonsense because it suites your agenda. Dougie made himself a target of ridicule, and you participated in it, birds of a feather CC ... :lol:



Really.

So tell me a good reason a driver shouldnt be allowed to buy a license from a council for £30K.........if that council in return limits the market allowing the driver a return for his investment of knowledge and cash?

In actual fact.......and I turn to the current system....but I'd like you to answer the first question obviously.

Many councils when they've deregulated......please spare me the thingy on the term delimitation.......choose to bring in what they call quality controls......this is usually a age limit on first license........whats the difference between giving GE finance £35K and a person selling a cab and plate £35K knowing the plate will still be worth money if the place is regulated.

You suggest I'm anti driver..........you're anti driver.....you want someone to gamble £35K......whereas I dont.

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The public is not for sale CC, not now, not ever. Without a queuing public, there is no 30K plate value. A restriction on licence is a reduction in service to the public, especially at peak times. If you want a restriction you raise standards through quality controls. You don't restrict the licence to qualified drivers and then force them to pay to unfetter the tools of their trade. It's the public and the drivers who suffer as a consequence of a restricted market, not the vested interests. The owners then depend on drivers handing them huge rentals keep them in lala land. The reality is, if you drive a taxi to earn a living, there is no reason you should be denied unfettered access to your own taxi.

This is where inequality, exploitation and discrimination come from. Driving your own taxi is a right, not a favour or the purchase of a licence you can never own. :-|

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The public is not for sale CC, not now, not ever. Without a queuing public, there is no 30K plate value. A restriction on licence is a reduction in service to the public, especially at peak times. If you want a restriction you raise standards through quality controls. You don't restrict the licence to qualified drivers and then force them to pay to unfetter the tools of their trade. It's the public and the drivers who suffer as a consequence of a restricted market, not the vested interests. The owners then depend on drivers handing them huge rentals keep them in lala land. The reality is, if you drive a taxi to earn a living, there is no reason you should be denied unfettered access to your own taxi.

This is where inequality, exploitation and discrimination come from. Driving your own taxi is a right, not a favour or the purchase of a licence you can never own. :-|


I didn't know we were allowed to phone a friend......although Judas is an admittedly strange bedfellow.....not much of a pun intended.

I never mentioned the public........nor did you I mentioned giving drivers a return on their investment.

Dougie's idea would give any driver willing a return............it would rid the trade of carpetbaggers and only have the committed.

The owner is the driver, hence the only applicants in Dougie's system being licensed drivers.

I think Dougie has checkmated you guys.

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ffs......I got in the bath and there was an earthquake here!

I need to lose weight.

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The public is not for sale CC, not now, not ever. Without a queuing public, there is no 30K plate value. A restriction on licence is a reduction in service to the public, especially at peak times. If you want a restriction you raise standards through quality controls. You don't restrict the licence to qualified drivers and then force them to pay to unfetter the tools of their trade. It's the public and the drivers who suffer as a consequence of a restricted market, not the vested interests. The owners then depend on drivers handing them huge rentals keep them in lala land. The reality is, if you drive a taxi to earn a living, there is no reason you should be denied unfettered access to your own taxi.

This is where inequality, exploitation and discrimination come from. Driving your own taxi is a right, not a favour or the purchase of a licence you can never own. :-|


I didn't know we were allowed to phone a friend......although Judas is an admittedly strange bedfellow.....not much of a pun intended.

I never mentioned the public........nor did you I mentioned giving drivers a return on their investment.

Dougie's idea would give any driver willing a return............it would rid the trade of carpetbaggers and only have the committed.

The owner is the driver, hence the only applicants in Dougie's system being licensed drivers.

I think Dougie has checkmated you guys.

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Where does the "value" of a licence come from CC? A restriction on licence means what exactly, when it comes to providing a service to the public? A reduction in service perhaps, especially at peak times? Then there are the drivers operating in a swelling labour pool with a limited number of shifts available to drive. How much should one pay an owner to provide a service to the public, while being denied unfettered access to the tools of his trade?

You are off your head, just like your chum Dougie.

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Where does the "value" of a licence come from CC? A restriction on licence means what exactly, when it comes to providing a service to the public? A reduction in service perhaps, especially at peak times? Then there are the drivers operating in a swelling labour pool with a limited number of shifts available to drive. How much should one pay an owner to provide a service to the public, while being denied unfettered access to the tools of his trade?

You are off your head, just like your chum Dougie.


Great schpeel.......except for that fact Dougies system allows drivers to buy in......rather than be robbed by carpetbaggers.

As I said.....checkmate :wink:

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If you want a restriction you raise standards through quality controls. You don't restrict the licence to qualified drivers


You keep going on about raising standards through quality controls, but, what quality controls? Currently the qualification required is for a driver to be 'fit & proper', which, varies throughout the country and certainly varies now as opposed to when these laws were written. As I've asked Jasbar if you de-restrict what standards are you going to want or more to the point not want

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Where does the "value" of a licence come from CC? A restriction on licence means what exactly, when it comes to providing a service to the public? A reduction in service perhaps, especially at peak times? Then there are the drivers operating in a swelling labour pool with a limited number of shifts available to drive. How much should one pay an owner to provide a service to the public, while being denied unfettered access to the tools of his trade?

You are off your head, just like your chum Dougie.


Great schpeel.......except for that fact Dougies system allows drivers to buy in......rather than be robbed by carpetbaggers.

As I said.....checkmate :wink:

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Answer the questions CC. :D

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If you want a restriction you raise standards through quality controls. You don't restrict the licence to qualified drivers


You keep going on about raising standards through quality controls, but, what quality controls? Currently the qualification required is for a driver to be 'fit & proper', which, varies throughout the country and certainly varies now as opposed to when these laws were written. As I've asked Jasbar if you de-restrict what standards are you going to want or more to the point not want



Dougie seems to have found the key.........have the qualifications......have a survey.......save up money........and pay for a license.

The added bonus is that pensioners keep nice and warm in the winter!

ffs

these people say he's insane.......I say he needs knighted!

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It would seem.... that delimitation of taxi numbers does not stop rapes... another Jasbar theory turned to dust.... :shock:


Mr T shame on you. This chap hasn't been found guilty :roll:

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It would seem.... that delimitation of taxi numbers does not stop rapes... another Jasbar theory turned to dust.... :shock:


Mr T shame on you. This chap hasn't been found guilty :roll:


Is he scouse?

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