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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:51 am 
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I never said i was going to hand back my licence, with 4 sons im thinking more handing the licence on and working part time, :wink:


Indeed, I knew there was more to it than you claimed.

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Your points are all over the place :wink: The cost of living vary's from place to place and especially in a Capital city, London living allowance being the example


Yes, but by how much does a bar of chocolate vary?

My point was that plate values have jack to do with population, it's primarily to do with how much the market is distorted.

How much are Hackney plates worth in London, and how much in Aylesbury?

I'll give you a clue; one's jack, the other's £80k or so.

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Most of the plates have been traded in Edinburgh, it's not our fault the system is how it is, we bought in too the current system, all we are saying is the current system has gone to far, there is no going back, if we go back we who bought in to our current system are the ones being screwed, just what the abusers of the allocation system want. 80% of Edinburgh's plates are owned by individuals, where is the profiteering in that :?:


Ah, so Ali T wasn't profiteering at all then?

But I can't really see what difference it makes who or what holds the plates, profiteering is profiteering.

Anyway, I thought most of the Edinburgh plates were owned by companies, not individuals :D


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New York is New York and Edinburgh is Edinburgh, we can learn from there system and impliment a re-worked system similar to New York in Edinburgh, there is no chance of plate value's hitting New York levels, all we have to do is CAP at say £50,000, plates a couple of years ago where selling for that in Edinburgh, but hey the value hinges on Survey's of demand allowing for an increase in licences, capping solves any issue's with value.


Your plan has enough holes in it Reggie, but with all the conditions you're adding it's beginning to look like a very big sieve.

And I never claimed Edinbugh plates would reach NY levels, all I said was that with the risk premium reducing significantly plate values would increase significantly, didn't I?

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80 % of plates have been traded, there is a lot of DEBT connected to the trading of plates in Edinburgh, we need a system that allows for that fact.


That's because CEC drove a coach and horses through the Act, ie another facet to the can of worms :D

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I'm starting to think your just stirring, but hopefully you are making sure we have thought about this :?:


Not much evidence of thinking at all there Reggie. But I think it's you that's doing the stirring, but if your proposoal is taken seriously then I look forward to the debate.

Captain Cab is defo a wind-up merchant, but I like to engage with him occassionaly because it probably feeds his delusion slightly.

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We never set up the system in Edinburgh and we never devised the New York System, we are offering a workable ALTERNATIVE that provides the trade with the compromise required to protect it


Not saying it's your fault, but CEC capped numbers and introduced the plate scam, and the likes of yourself have benifitted, and now you want to consolidate the cartel, the plate scam, profiteering and all that, so I look forward to a more open debate rather than having it all swept under the carpet.

Hey, it may even become an election issue for the Holyrood elections in May, and to that extent I hope you're not an SNP supporter :D

Anyway, no point in discussing these things ad nauseum on here, so I wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy NY (New Year, not New York), and look forward to CC's article and the public examination of the can of worms :lol:

The Debate is one for the New Year i agree, the council and the government have the workings of the New York Model (official workings i may add), If the council is forced to de-restrict or issue plates without the need for that issue then i know they will seriously consider bringing in the New York system.

The council will and need to keep control of the Taxi Market in Edinburgh, that's a fact

Happy xmas to all

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the council and the government have the workings of the New York Model (official workings i may add), If the council is forced to de-restrict or issue plates without the need for that issue then i know they will seriously consider bringing in the New York system.


The legal changes alone would take years, even if there was a political will.

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the council and the government have the workings of the New York Model (official workings i may add), If the council is forced to de-restrict or issue plates without the need for that issue then i know they will seriously consider bringing in the New York system.


The legal changes alone would take years, even if there was a political will.


The process shouldn't be a deterrent if changes are to be made regardless of what they decide to change

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If the council is forced to de-restrict or issue plates without the need for that issue then i know they will seriously consider bringing in the New York system.



Sorry to be pedantic Reggie, but how would a New York system work if Edinburgh was derestricted? :-k

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Keep up the good work Dougie!. (You've got a few on this forum a wee bit worried, eh?). By the way, what an Ally you've found in C.C.!. Shows you what positivity as oppossed to negativity can lead to. By the way, yer Bro has surely no' still got auld Bronx still selling xmas trees!. Per auld [edited by admin] must be ages wae' the REAL SANTA!.


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Keep up the good work Dougie!. (You've got a few on this forum a wee bit worried, eh?). By the way, what an Ally you've found in C.C.!. Shows you what positivity as oppossed to negativity can lead to. By the way, yer Bro has surely no' still got auld Bronx still selling xmas trees!. Per auld [edited by admin] must be ages wae' the REAL SANTA!.


Let me guess.

Two possibilities.

Santa gave you a TDO registration for Christmas?

Or you're the mad Dougie's mother :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

One thing is for sure, a complete numpt like you will NEVER put your head above the parapet. Cos you wouldn't want to be ridiculed for being a complete plank :lol:

BTW You're not related to the feckwit formerly known as DURR are you ...... :lol:

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I can assure you Jim, my anonimity is only temporary. You might find out, (personally), who I am before the rest of the Forum does.


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I can assure you Jim, my anonimity is only temporary. You might find out, (personally), who I am before the rest of the Forum does.


Oh good a threat.

Be prepared to die then.

:twisted:

Then the boys will be visiting Dougie.

Do you get it feckwit :lol:

Back under your stone child.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hi Jim, my name is John Lawson. (I did say that I would'nt remain anonimous too long). Anyway, I did suggest that you might find out who I was before the rest of the Forum did , (Personally), ie I would speak to you on the Ranks. You replied by saying, "Be prerared to die then". What do you mean mate!. I use the term "Mate loosely"
I reitterate what I said about the "Whitehoose".


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Hi Jim, my name is John Lawson. (I did say that I would'nt remain anonimous too long). Anyway, I did suggest that you might find out who I was before the rest of the Forum did , (Personally), ie I would speak to you on the Ranks. You replied by saying, "Be prerared to die then". What do you mean mate!. I use the term "Mate loosely"
I reitterate what I said about the "Whitehoose".


Forget the whitehoose gibe Johny boy. You don't wanna go there.

Trust me.

I take it you bought into the illusion. Now it's everyone else's faults but yours.

And you're still living in yesteryear's Niddrie hardman culture.

Grow up. These days are gone

You imply violence, I guarantee destruction. Know this!

No man operates alone. An infant would know this.

Dougie is an imbecile. End of. You know this. That's why you feel a need to defend him.

Now bring it on!

What hacks me off is I have to deal with complete tumshies like you because the council is corrupt and won't do what is inevtable.

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Fairplay wrote:
Hi Jim, my name is John Lawson. (I did say that I would'nt remain anonimous too long). Anyway, I did suggest that you might find out who I was before the rest of the Forum did , (Personally), ie I would speak to you on the Ranks. You replied by saying, "Be prerared to die then". What do you mean mate!. I use the term "Mate loosely"
I reitterate what I said about the "Whitehoose".


Tell me John, do I know you? I'm sure I know the name, but I just can't put a face to it.

What's all this about the Whitehoose? The old Niddrie has almost been socially engineered out of existence, there's not much of it left.
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Me thinks you are living in the past John.
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Skull, lets meet. Bring yer pal, pm me, anywhere you want!..


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Skull, lets meet. Bring yer pal, pm me, anywhere you want!..



Nae probs :wink:

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If the council is forced to de-restrict or issue plates without the need for that issue then i know they will seriously consider bringing in the New York system.



Sorry to be pedantic Reggie, but how would a New York system work if Edinburgh was derestricted? :-k

You could de-restrict tomorrow but the cost of a New licence granted could be anything from £30k-£50k

The New york system is ANOTHER way to restrict through COST, works both way's

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Keep up the good work Dougie!. (You've got a few on this forum a wee bit worried, eh?). By the way, what an Ally you've found in C.C.!. Shows you what positivity as oppossed to negativity can lead to. By the way, yer Bro has surely no' still got auld Bronx still selling xmas trees!. Per auld [edited by admin] must be ages wae' the REAL SANTA!.

Cheers for the support

Xmas tree's went years ago, Bro doing well with his Carpet etc business plus he has the Bronx boxing club in Tranent (registered charity)

What i'm about is FAIRPLAY :)

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