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yer more likely to get in a fight for a latte or a seat at the playhouse bar than you ever where at the whitehoose

Must admit that invite to the beanscene totaly cracked me up couple o lattes at dawn

Must admit that invite to the beanscene totaly cracked me up couple o lattes at dawn

Dearie me, the BIG John Lawson can't do face to face.

So what was with the big hardman gig? Even a hibs casual wouldn't baulk at a sundown meeting at the pink triangle.

I've been campaigning for a fair number of years. More years than I care to think about, but we've done it on a shoestring.

Not once, yup not even once, has anyone attempted to articulate the argument to my face.

The reason? Because there is no argument against where we're headed. It is inevitable.

The trade knows this but rather than develop the quality controls we need, it would rather just try to kill the messenger.

You're all failures. What we're saying is going to happen.

We should be embracing it and moving on to the next stage. Increasing the service to the customer, and charging them more for it.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

I've never defended selling plates

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

What you rolling your eyes for. I know the Scottish legislation does not allow the sales of plates but it doesn't stop people selling vehicles with plates on them and transferring them over to the new owner of the vehicle. This practise would stop if the transfer was also illegal.

It would be far easier to understand if you used terms such as e.g or for example rather than just stating something and hoping we know what you mean

The fares paid to taxi drivers pays wages as well as maintenance, now I'm not sure how it works in Edinburgh but here when you rent a vehicle you get to keep all the money you make and out of it you pay for fuel and rental charge inc insurance and that's it. If there is anything that crops up regarding maintence the person that owns the vehicle pays that, so what's the taxi fare to do with anything other than paying the rent.

After 20 years you'd think a half decent taxi driver will have built up a fair bit of business and goodwill has to be more valuable than a plate cos that can sold to either side of the trade imo.

My objection is to those that say it's wrong but do it anyway, double standards, then say they're doing it to prove a point

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

The transfer is illegal.
ECC got around the legislation by allowing all the existing plate holders to incorporate their plates.
This in effect meant the individual holder surrendering his plate and ECC granting a new plate in the name of a company (no transfer of plate as this is illegal ).
There after the plate is always held in the name of the company.
The company is what gets sold.

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Fraid not Gusmac. The transfer happens in Edinburgh.

And CEC NEVER does anything illegal

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

But the legislation doesn't accomodate licence transfers, the intention being to stop their sale, even if attached to a vehicle.





Well it was so obviously just an example I didn't think it was necessary to specifically say so



You seemed to be trying to concoct an argument defending plate sales in terms of long-term investment, buying a vehicle, maintaining it etc, but the plate has a value solely because of the closed market, end of.

And whatever the ownership scenario ultimately the fares are intended to cover wages, profit and running costs, profitting from the sale of plates should have nothing to do with it.



Well if a driver/owner has goodwill to sell on then that's all well and good, but again that has nothing to do with plate values, except in the minds of those who try to obfuscate by conflating the two issues.

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Caledonian Cabbie

So what was all this about:





So if you have no other objections then you must be defending plate sales in other scenarios?

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Caledonian Cabbie

The first was a comment about you pressuming they had been sat on their backside when they may not have been and the 2nd is my opinion of people who say it's wrong but do it anyway to prove a point, that's just an excuse for double standards.

I've never said I think selling a plate is a good thing, in fact I don't think transferring a plate to another person is a good thing either. If you no longer want or need the said plate it should be handed back to the council. I've always said that

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Having re read all of this I can quite understand why you think I believe it's ok to sell a plate and why you think I don't understand the Scottish legal system regarding the selling of plates. I always believed it was illegal to sell a plate but thought you could transfer it, this is why I said if they made transfers illegal it would solve the problem. Apparently not with the companies involved. However I think it's quite shameful that the situation with the companies is allowed to continue and this also should be stopped. As far as I am concerned it's the goodwill of the business that should be sold not the plate

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Couldn't agree more.

Any goodwill lies not in the plate or the licence, since these are just paper and plastic allowing the driver to pick up at the side of the road without a booking. Nor does it lay in the cab, which is ultimately just a tool of the trade.
Any repeat business is down to the driver passing out his mobile number or knowing from experience where to be at the right time.
This goes where the driver goes (or his mobile), not where the plate or the cab go.

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In that case, every plate which was transfered was done so illegally.



You sure about that?

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I think the Royden case put the goodwill issue firmly to bed.

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