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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:20 pm 
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The accounts are big companies and they rule the roost,aside from not chasing drivers who owe 2-3 k on company cars,the management is "afraid" to say to the account holders pay up 30 days after invoice and if you dont we'll close the account.On 20% there is plenty of money coming in from drivers,but if the company wont enlist help or use a bit of muscle to get the money in then thats where the problem is.

I am happy to move to another company if i have to but would prefer to stay where i am.Am not working today and will take tomorrow off if the monies not in the account.Im not doing anymore account work til my £400 arrears hits my current account.

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Radio rent/settle is 20 % of all company earnings.So no car wheels moving,no pay.Radio is in car for free if the wheels aint turning doing company work.

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so they ONLY earn off accounts?
(no settle/rent?)

no wonder they are in the cack

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Not sure if money collected on behalf of owner drivers might be legally separate from the office that's collecting it.

If so then they'd be breaking the law by dipping into it to run the business, and if the business was wound up then its own creditors would be irrelevant.

Thus if the third party has paid the cash then you should be legally entitled to the money come what may?

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The accounts are big companies and they rule the roost,aside from not chasing drivers who owe 2-3 k on company cars,the management is "afraid" to say to the account holders pay up 30 days after invoice and if you dont we'll close the account


They don't need to threaten to close the account they should have applied interest to invoices once they go over a certain credit time. That usually encourages companies to pay handy. Having said that there is no evidence that the invoices haven't been paid, just because the drivers haven't been paid :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:51 am 
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Update thursday 13th jan-money that should have been in my account on friday 7th jan still not gone in today,like i said over £400.Most of the work(its a private hire company with roughly 30 owner drivers,10 company car drivers and 2-3 hackneys with radios) is on account or credit cards say roughly 55-75%.When the week ends the money should go in our account less the commission 3 weeks later.So if i do £900 in a week and say account work/credit cards is £600 (cash money is £300) my 20% of the total(my radio rent commission based only) is £180 therefore in 3 weeks time i get a credit in the bank for £420(600-180 radio rent) If the following week i get man flu and dont work then i pay nothing.If i decide to have 6 weeks off in the summer,i pay nothing.Obviously if i do £900 every week then i pay "almost double" the other companies in the area as the average radio rent is £100

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Update thursday 13th jan-money that should have been in my account on friday 7th jan still not gone in today,like i said over £400.Most of the work(its a private hire company with roughly 30 owner drivers,10 company car drivers and 2-3 hackneys with radios) is on account or credit cards say roughly 55-75%.When the week ends the money should go in our account less the commission 3 weeks later.So if i do £900 in a week and say account work/credit cards is £600 (cash money is £300) my 20% of the total(my radio rent commission based only) is £180 therefore in 3 weeks time i get a credit in the bank for £420(600-180 radio rent) If the following week i get man flu and dont work then i pay nothing.If i decide to have 6 weeks off in the summer,i pay nothing.Obviously if i do £900 every week then i pay "almost double" the other companies in the area as the average radio rent is £100


Sack them off mate and move to another company and only do account work on your basis "ONLY".

I hate firms like this with a passion if they aren't going to pay you why do they keep shoving the work onto you??

I bet the Money is sat in their account as we type.

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These kind of incidents or problems will continue to occur because taxi drivers never get anything in writing, they seldom sign agreements it's usually just accepted that that is what will happen. I've never agreed to pay my base any settle and they've never agreed to give me work, at least not within the confines of a contract, it's all just assumed and verbal. I certainly have never agreed to do contract work at reduced rates again it's just assumed I will. Everything about this trade is assumed and accepted. I of course could be wrong and you could have a written contract


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These kind of incidents or problems will continue to occur because taxi drivers never get anything in writing, they seldom sign agreements it's usually just accepted that that is what will happen. I've never agreed to pay my base any settle and they've never agreed to give me work, at least not within the confines of a contract, it's all just assumed and verbal. I certainly have never agreed to do contract work at reduced rates again it's just assumed I will. Everything about this trade is assumed and accepted. I of course could be wrong and you could have a written contract



When they start with the PH companies they should make the owners sign a form saying, "any overdue account monies owed will be charged at 4% above the bank base rate until they are paid".

That will kick their backsides into gear and pay them on time.

I don't like this 30 day thing then the driver gets his money.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:28 pm 
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Chatting to a friend this afternoon who also works with said company,he mentioned a driver was overheard saying hes got paid ON TIME so has his relation who also works on there.It transpires that the 12 favoured drivers on the company got paid ON TIME in their bank accounts with no aggro,the rest are left wondering if the money will go in on friday tomorrow. :evil: :evil: :evil: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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not having heard of your bases "commission" system before its hard to evaluate, but you have a right to be paid, trouble is that you havent invoiced them in the accepted sense, so thats hard to enforce, you cant add late payment fees (£40 per invoice) when theres no invoice

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:54 pm 
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The money went in friday so thats a relief!! Gonna do very little account work until the skys are clearer regarding companies financial position.

This post must have been spot on "I bet the Money is sat in their account as we type" It was this week but who knows about the next few weeks,all the companys round here struggling,why does everyone have to run their own office,you would think that mergers with halved base/staff costs would be flavour of the month

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The money went in friday so thats a relief!! Gonna do very little account work until the skys are clearer regarding companies financial position.

This post must have been spot on "I bet the Money is sat in their account as we type" It was this week but who knows about the next few weeks,all the companys round here struggling,why does everyone have to run their own office,you would think that mergers with halved base/staff costs would be flavour of the month


Glad you got it sorted mate.

Your right to ease off the account work, I'd be inclined to tell them to shove it until they get their office practices sorted out.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:27 pm 
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The money went in friday so thats a relief!! Gonna do very little account work until the skys are clearer regarding companies financial position.

This post must have been spot on "I bet the Money is sat in their account as we type" It was this week but who knows about the next few weeks,all the companys round here struggling,why does everyone have to run their own office,you would think that mergers with halved base/staff costs would be flavour of the month


Drivers co-operatives would be an even better flavour imo :wink:

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Ours is more or less a co-operative and works well, IMHO.

We obviously have our problems but WE sort them out to the satisfaction of the majority.


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