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Jinky you think CC's posts are over the top? I think you must be blinkered if you haven't read the insults thrown at various other members on this site by skull and jasbar, but, perhaps you think it's ok for them to do that because they aren't trade reps. I've had to put up with unfounded insulting insinuation regarding myself, my daughters, my partners and now my dead father and all because I dared to have a difference of opinion. You cannot chose to admonish just one member on this site. Personally I believe it is up to the administration to contact offending members and to remind them that such posts will not be tolerated and will be removed

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

Take no notice of the 3 dimebars Toots, they'll be downloading the latest version of self love Jasbars way, and how to knock a woman into shape, "literally".

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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Believe me, don't get Mercury X2

Point taken Toots, banter is one thing personal abuse should not be tolerated. On CC's postings, beng an NTA rep he should know better, I think I read one of Stationstones posts complaining as well about something he posted about some Disabled Guy, lets use the forum for real debate, real questions and answers afterall is that not the purpose of the Forum or am I totally missing something

There are a very large number of HC drivers up here who would like a plate to work a cab for themselves but unfortunately finance is the obstacle in 'Buying In' not a lot of people can afford £50,000 to £70,000 (incl Cab & Position in a radio company) more so not now in these current economic conditions. The average rental up here is approx £250 per week, that rental NEVER goes down and the only losers are the guys who RENT not the owners, this is where Jim and Skull are coming from and although I do not agree on everything they post, I do agree on this one.
Also they both have the courage to say it how it is whether you like it or not.
Private Reggie and CC have this thing about the New York Medallion system working in Edinburgh, now, if that system was to come to fruition who benefits? Certainly not the poor guys renting, if anything they would be hit for bigger rentals. Toots do you see that as the way forward, I certainly do not.
Oh and BTW I do not want total de-restriction just more cabs on than we currently have and to be allowed to apply for a licence using the proper process instead of the council using an illegal closed waiting list that nobody can get their name onto. Just ask some of the hundred and odd applicants that were denied previously!!!!!

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LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD

Can you point me to the bit where I insulted Tony, in actual fact, can you ask Tony if I insulted him, because I dont think I did, I think we had a disagreement, otherwise known as debate.

Very selective indeed.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
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Jinky most of the 100 odd people were people that wanted a second or third plate not just a humble driver wanting his own motor and what happens when u get your own motor and other people still want a plate as well will u still be so happy about every tom dick and harry gettin a plate when there's no work as it is.... what I will say is rentals are a bit much in the current climate...

If everyone is on the same rentals,cant understand why you cant get them lowered,especially if theres not enough work to justify it.

I agree.......but wasnt someone telling us recently that cab insurance had gone up in price?

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Dug,
with all due respect, the 30 licences issued from the IPL list were the guys that already had a plate with some of them even having 2. What happened! Did the council give a Jot! No, because it was they that invited the people from the IPL list to apply knowing full well that the first 30 from the IPL would be allocated a licence and the guys that went through the proper process would not, hence the recent court case against CEC for that reason and that reason only. The 100 odd applicants the majority were genuine non plate holders. Dug we know that de-restriction is unlikely, however, CEC should be Transparent and Fair with their processes so any further SUD a genuine applicant should be treated with the respect they deserve by CEC acknowledging their application, date, time etc and awarded their plate on the first come first served basis as it should be, not shunted further up the list to accomodate names from a closed, illegal IPL list that have not even paid the full application fee.

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LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD

CC I cannot remember the post from Stationtone but I did not say you insulted him, YOU JUST DID, I said he complained, big difference!!!!
As for being selective, my apologies as this was not intended, all I really want to read as I have stated earler is Sensible,responsible debate.
Regards

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So you don't want total derestriction you just want how many more cabs? 100 more? Why not 101 or 150. On what basis do you decide how many more cabs there should be. I agree that the rentals are high, especially if the work is falling. I agree that there should be a proper process to obtain a license as and when they become available. I don't think it's right to harp on about how wrong the system is and then use it to your advantage to obtain plates and then sell them and pretend it's because your proving how corrupt the system is, you follow Now that is just my opinion and because of it insults are thrown. So please don't try and defend skull and jasbar to me because although jasbar says he's never had a plate skull certainly has and has sold at least one plate when it suited him, to prove a point

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

Give over, you've only got to look at the on here to see why there's problems in Edinburgh, that's right Skull and Ali, they are the ones who've messed it up by getting free plates a few years ago then flogging them on at astronomical prices.

The Council have gotten wise and aren't going to get conned again.

You mention you don't want deregulation but want the tools so you can ply your trade, OK if one wants a plate let everyone have one, no limits, no capping, brand new motor not 2nd hand produced before you get the plate, no transfers, plate belongs to that vehicle and owner to the address on the council database and vehicle log book.

If 1000 people want a HC plate you've got to give them a plate not just a few who post on a internet forum.

Like I mentioned look towards Skull and Ali T and ask them how much they made. Ali T duped a guy called JD into helping him get a plate, Ali soon dropped him in the brown stuff when he got accepted and flogged it on.

They are ***** of the highest order.

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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Believe me, don't get Mercury X2

Everythings gone up ! But jf enough people arent happy with rents they could get together and force it down.It happened here,drivers have to earn a living

So you worked 6 hours for the above and at that point you turned over £75

You covered your rental (12 hour rental) You covered your diesel £15 ( 6hrs diesel) and you went home with a £15 profit after your 6 hour shift

So just at the point where you could have worked another 3-4 hours and mostly profit to yourself, you went HOME Feeling sorry for yourself Jimmy boy I bet you wish you had held out a couple of more hours, you never know what's around the corner eh

Jim how can you complain about your rental when you start feeling like going home after 6 hours Your paying a rental of less than £4 per hour or £4 per hour counting diesel I you really do know how this trade works NOT

Nice to know you know your self worth £15

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Alway's been about Tightening the Grip!

Perhaps the point is that if the market was derestricted then those wanting a second or third plate wouldn't bother, because there'd be no one to drive their vehicle - where are all those new drivers coming from, or are you saying that there are HC drivers sitting at home or on the dole because they can't get a shift?

And those who are critical about high rentals, profiteering etc but at the same time think that a reformed system of continued restriction is the answer miss the point. There'll still be profiteering, high rentals, parasites sitting on their bums, ect, it'll just be watered down a bit.

The bottom line is that if rentals are low and plate values are minimal then there's probably not a lot of point in restricting anyway - numbers won't be much less than derestricted levels.

And if restriction is to be 'worthwhile' in terms of making a difference then you inevitably get the blatant profiteering and mega-rentals.

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Caledonian Cabbie

This is all about you. And how you're slighted by my insults about YOU.

You really got to get over yourself son.



BTW Isn't it over the top to suggest that another member is about to "die"?