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Carlisle cabbie fighting to keep 20 year old taxi on road
Carlisle's oldest taxi is still carrying passengers, despite an attempt by city council officers to take it off the road.
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Fine- you go for it- if it is roadworthy and safe- But dont forget to charge us 1991 prices - watch those speed bumps Mate-
Posted by Laewrence wyall on 17 February 2011 at 20:22
Steve, as long as the Taxi can get you from A to B who cares what sort of state it is in.
Posted by Scott on 17 February 2011 at 09:58
as a regular taxi user,who wants to run around in that old bucket.i dont,ok if the council decide to re-instate this cab,ill by-pass it! at the price we punters pay were entitled to a newish taxi.
Posted by steve on 17 February 2011 at 08:58
Debs must be from afghanistan because the taxis in carlisle are all regulated strictly.
Posted by chris on 16 February 2011 at 18:44
Im sure some of the passengers emerging from pubs and clubs etc, will take a lot of notice of the interior exterior of a taxi. its a pity the regulator, doesnt have a say about the trains interior/exterior that run between carlisle and barrow. or for that matter some of the buses on the roads, are a joke.
Posted by John on 16 February 2011 at 16:47
Debs? Taxis going around Carlisle with big dents in them and bumpers hanging off??
Not in this city they dont. Every taxi has to have a regular taxi test, ie, enhanced mot test, checking everything, inside and out. and the police and any licencing officer has the power to remove the taxi plate from the back if it is not road worthy. I would never let anyone away with running a less than safe taxi in carlisle, or doing anything else they shouldn;t be either!
Posted by Dave Cotrell on 16 February 2011 at 16:37
I am a taxi driver as is my Dad and brother. I run a 2004 Skoda Superb, and i know am i going to have to replace it before it hits 10 year old. just like, my Dad, brother and every other taxi driver has to. Its in the licencing rules. But will i whinge to the local paper when i have to replace it? No! Dave, either shut up or get out!
Posted by Ian Morton on 16 February 2011 at 16:30
Quite right Alan. Diesel and petrol engines have come a long long way in the last decade or so. Specifically the latter, a well maintained modern hdi diesel engine is one of the most efficient, clean and reliable engines out there. An old single rail diesel though is a pollution monster, and because of its age this car will be exempt from MOT emission tests.
Posted by bob. on 16 February 2011 at 15:28
Rob, quite the opposite. The licensing department expects the highest standards from those who wish for a license. The demand for licenses is greater then the supply.
The thing about Taxi Licensing, is that unlike standards in the rest of society for pretty much everything, their standards havent changed, they havent reduced in the name of modernisation.
They run a tight ship. The Councillors on the Licensing Committee are put there by the Council specifically to deal with matters like this.
This and other licensing matters are the pressing things that need sorted out, by those on the committee.
Posted by bob. on 16 February 2011 at 15:25
The cab should be scrapped. Any owner drivers with private hire vehicles are forced to stop using the car at a certain age, why should this rule be any different for other Taxis? It is blatantly unfair to all of us that have had to stop using vehicles that have passed a certain age if this old wreck is allowed to carry on.
The person who posted that it is enviromentally sound to run the cab needs to look at the facts. A twenty year old taxi running a 30 year old design toyota diesel engine or even older ford variant is much more damaging to the enviroment than the current Euro V engined cars that the rest of us have to buy.
I think I will buy another 1980's Lada andd see if the council will let me run that. Where is the incentive to run modern machinery? @Kieran, there are no taxi's in worse condition than this in Carlisle. The council make sure of that.
Well done Mr Carlisle . Maybe councillor Bloxham should award him for his services to the environment and recycling. This man has maintained his cab for 20 years . Can you imagine how dificult that must have been for him. A cab this age must have passed the half million mile mark. Not considering all the abuse form the condition of the roads , buggies, wheelchairs and drunks that have been in the back.
In fact it could be a safe bet to say the cab has carried out a better service to the people of Carlisle than half the city executive.
Well done Mr Carlisle ..
Posted by andrew hill on 16 February 2011 at 14:49
Let the guy live his life and ern a crust for gods sake what is this world coming too you cant break wind thease days without someone objecting or telling you you cant !! GGRRR
Posted by laura on 16 February 2011 at 13:48
i have a washing machine and a combination microwave which both have just passed the 20 year old mark. same as david carlile, look after them and they look after you.
Posted by kh on 16 February 2011 at 13:09
what a waste of time and money david is hard working guy who is trying to make a living the council need to concentrate on more important things and not wasting public money
Posted by david rowley on 16 February 2011 at 12:59
Mechanically safe? Probably, seeing as it's just passed an MOT, but for a 20+ year old vehicle with (probably) half a million miles on the clock, it'll probably be in the garage getting bits replaced more that it makes an apearance on the ranks.
More environmentally friendly ? Doubt it - at 20+ years old, it'll be pumping out soot like Dixons chimney - modern engines are mechanically superior and have much better fuel consumption than this old beast.
Posted by Derek on 16 February 2011 at 12:47
How is a nearly 20 year old taxi, good for the enviroment? Smokey, old thirsty rattly engines. How is this item really news worthy? Yet another taxi driver crying to the papers because he cant get his own way? Scrap the heap!
Posted by Alan Hales on 16 February 2011 at 12:38
I have a taxi, and i know that once it reaches a sertain age i have to replace it. Its the same for us all on the cabs. Quit moaning and do what the rest of us have to,and replace it. Its in the rules. And by the way, when a taxi in carlisle reaches 6 years old, it is tested 3 times a year, not 2 times!!!
Posted by Tonka on 16 February 2011 at 12:36
More petty nose poking from councillors - am sure there's more pressing things needing sorted than this........
Posted by rob on 16 February 2011 at 10:19
I think David Carlile's to be congratulated for keeping an old cab running. It's more environmentally sound to do so, and it's a talking point too!
Posted by Neil on 15 February 2011 at 23:37
This man is fighting for his livelihood and good for him. At least he's not sponging off the dole he is tring to keep his buisness going in hard times the licensing should be doing something more constructive and helping people.
Posted by Steve on 15 February 2011 at 22:01
Bless him he must really love his baby.
Posted by Sue on 15 February 2011 at 19:07
the cab is mechanicly safe isnt that all that really matters it passed the taxi test only to fail on cosmetic grounds ... what a joke have you seen the state of some taxis in the area ???? big dints bumpers hanging off etc . this has to be a joke ....mr carlile obviously loves his cab and looks after it obviously being nearly 20 yrs old its going to have some wear... i have driven cabs that have been crashed into and never fixed but are still on the rd now ....glad u are giving him the opportunity to repair the seat but isnt it just a little bit petty havent you got better things to do like catch rogue taxi drivers help get the local rds to a better standard so taxi drivers arent having to keep fixing their cabs becuse of the poor conditions their having to work in health and safety issues you are there to help these ppl not hinder them
Posted by debs on 15 February 2011 at 18:34
Just let him get on with it. If they are receiving complaints from the public it is one thing but it doesn't appear that they are so what is the issue?
Posted by Brian on 15 February 2011 at 18:10
Black cabs in cities used to be kept in pristine condition otherwise they were put off the road until presented for inspection. In the last few years taxis have been made to improve, from the smelly rust buckets which were once common. I hope the licensing authority maintain standards for the safety and comfort of the paying passenger.
Posted by Oldcoachman on 15 February 2011 at 17:54
I dont care how old the cab is as long as its not minging Im old enough to remember the black and white austin cambridges a carlisle firm used in the early 70's Now those were bad
Posted by ian baillie on 15 February 2011 at 17:30
Iain, why should he half his income just because his vehicle is older than others?. The point of the matter is that his vehicle is not unroadworthy as a private vehicle, nor as a public transporter.
I also disagree with Mr Mortons view. It is not an entitlement to travel in a vehicle which is in tip-top standard, though it would be were all taxis owned, and taxi-drivers employed, directly by the council. As it is, neither are; the council can therefore only rule on such matters depending solely on the roadworthiness of the vehicle as public hire transport.
Posted by YoungOne on 15 February 2011 at 16:33
"The public are entitled to travel in vehicles to a tip-top standard"
I have been in this taxi. Not too recently, but within the last 18months and I thought to myself, not bad considering its age. I think the Council need to back off this gentleman and have a look at some of the newer taxis on the road that have faults. There are quite a few taxis about that are in a lot worse condition than this one....
Posted by Keiran on 15 February 2011 at 16:21
How about letting him keep his licence for this vehicle as long as has to give a 50% discount n the fares?
Posted by Iain on 15 February 2011 at 15:59
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