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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:59 am 
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Dumfries taxi driver left man lying in road

A Dumfries taxi driver ran a man over and left him lying in the street while he went to pick up a fare, a court has heard. Andrew Brown, 47, admitted leaving the man injured in the town's Newall Terrace to the danger of his life.

He thought he had hit a bag of rubbish but drove off even after finding out it had been a man lying in the road. He was told to pay £5,000 compensation, given 10 points on his licence and also 300 hours community service.

Dumfries Sheriff Court heard how Brown pulled to a halt last August after striking something in road. He checked to see what it was but when he found it was a man he drove off to pick up a passenger 10 miles away.

Depute fiscal Pamela Rhodes said it was only on his return from that journey that he went to the police station to report the incident.

Meanwhile, an off-duty policeman had come across David Woodward lying with critical injuries. An anonymous caller had also phoned emergency services.

Mr Woodward, who had been heading home after being out for a drink, spent several weeks in hospital with multiple fractures and a tear to his spleen. Brown, of West Riverside Drive, Dumfries, a taxi driver for 30 years with a clean licence, admitted culpably and recklessly leaving the injured man lying on the roadway.

He also admitted failing to report the accident as soon as reasonably practicable afterwards. The depute fiscal stressed that there was no suggestion that Brown's driving was at fault. Crash investigators came to the conclusion that the victim had been lying on the roadway when he was hit.


Solicitor Gavin Orr also pointed out that there was nothing to suggest that Brown's driving in this incident was blameworthy in any way. He said: "The driver had simply panicked after seeing the injured man.

"There were doors opening and people coming out and he believed the victim would be seen right away. "There was just no rationality about his thoughts as he panicked although blameless."

He appealed to the sheriff to deal with the case in a way in which his client would not lose his licence having already completed a four-month suspension imposed by the local authority.

Sheriff Kenneth Ross said he took all the factors into account but there was still a "callous disregard" in the way he had driven off. However, in the circumstances he said he could step back from a custodial sentence.

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What a vvanker.

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Midlander wrote:
What a vvanker.


I take it you mean the d*khead ars*hole on the council who thought he was a judge who could hand out punishment sentences?

Is this what our nation has come to?

Fact is that the council is not mandated to hand out punishments lke this to licence holders.

There are no punishment powers provided for in the CGSA.

All punishments handed down by our judicial processes require clear guidelines, acknowledgement of precedent, set penalties for specific transgressions and a right of appeal. Because of this, those who find themselves explaining their actions to have no Equality before the Law, which is enshrined in the European Convention of Human Rights and which is adopted by the Human Rights Act 1998, superior legislation to the CGSA.

Coumcillors have no formal training to deal with punishments.

They do this because they are not challenged and they hold the hearings in camera, so that the rest of us can't see how dictatorially and unreasonably they behave.

And of course because taxi drivers are stupid. They think that they are never going to fall foul of these draconian rules so they don't concern themselves with what's going down. Of course to consider that your fellow cabbie is being treated in this way is bad for all doesn't even cross they mind. That's how truly stupid they are.

And of course, the bloodsuckers and self-illusionists in organisations like the NTA and STF wouldn't contemplate raising the issue, lest it imperils their cosy relationship with those who are shafting us.

So, why should some bus driver, or grocer, or other tradesmen be able, without formal training or qualification, to judge others and punish them?

The law is clear. The council has the power to determine whether it believes someone is unfit to hold a licence. Any decision to remove a licence is appealable to the Sheriff Court.

The council has the power to suspend licences to protect the public. There is no provision for temporary suspensions.

So the four month suspension, if the period was specifically stipulated at the outset, is illegal and a breach of human rights.

Edinburgh's council knows this. They have adopted the practice of suspending licences until normal renewal, when they allow those whom they are shafting to reapply and be granted. We know this. This is also an abrogation of the Act and a breach of Human Rights.

No doubt councillors get their rocks off as they salivate while stiffing licence holders. That's the paucity of these individuals. Why they are scumbags

I refer to the Sheriff in Dumfries, specific case details forgotten but a lawyer could find it, who stated that such temporary suspensions were "illogical".

So Midlander, I trust that this is what tinled over your brain when your your mind meandered over the border and you punched the epithet "vvanker" on your keyboard.


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Jasbar wrote:
Midlander wrote:
What a vvanker.


I take it you mean the d*khead ars*hole on the council who thought he was a judge who could hand out punishment sentences?

Is this what our nation has come to?

Fact is that the council is not mandated to hand out punishments lke this to licence holders.

There are no punishment powers provided for in the CGSA.

All punishments handed down by our judicial processes require clear guidelines, acknowledgement of precedent, set penalties for specific transgressions and a right of appeal. Because of this, those who find themselves explaining their actions to have no Equality before the Law, which is enshrined in the European Convention of Human Rights and which is adopted by the Human Rights Act 1998, superior legislation to the CGSA.

Coumcillors have no formal training to deal with punishments.

They do this because they are not challenged and they hold the hearings in camera, so that the rest of us can't see how dictatorially and unreasonably they behave.

And of course because taxi drivers are stupid. They think that they are never going to fall foul of these draconian rules so they don't concern themselves with what's going down. Of course to consider that your fellow cabbie is being treated in this way is bad for all doesn't even cross they mind. That's how truly stupid they are.

And of course, the bloodsuckers and self-illusionists in organisations like the NTA and STF wouldn't contemplate raising the issue, lest it imperils their cosy relationship with those who are shafting us.

So, why should some bus driver, or grocer, or other tradesmen be able, without formal training or qualification, to judge others and punish them?

The law is clear. The council has the power to determine whether it believes someone is unfit to hold a licence. Any decision to remove a licence is appealable to the Sheriff Court.

The council has the power to suspend licences to protect the public. There is no provision for temporary suspensions.

So the four month suspension, if the period was specifically stipulated at the outset, is illegal and a breach of human rights.

Edinburgh's council knows this. They have adopted the practice of suspending licences until normal renewal, when they allow those whom they are shafting to reapply and be granted. We know this. This is also an abrogation of the Act and a breach of Human Rights.

No doubt councillors get their rocks off as they salivate while stiffing licence holders. That's the paucity of these individuals. Why they are scumbags

I refer to the Sheriff in Dumfries, specific case details forgotten but a lawyer could find it, who stated that such temporary suspensions were "illogical".

So Midlander, I trust that this is what tinled over your brain when your your mind meandered over the border and you punched the epithet "vvanker" on your keyboard.


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What a sh*te answer ffs.

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Jasbar wrote:
Midlander wrote:
What a vvanker.


I take it you mean the d*khead ars*hole on the council who thought he was a judge who could hand out punishment sentences?

Is this what our nation has come to?

Fact is that the council is not mandated to hand out punishments lke this to licence holders.

There are no punishment powers provided for in the CGSA.

All punishments handed down by our judicial processes require clear guidelines, acknowledgement of precedent, set penalties for specific transgressions and a right of appeal. Because of this, those who find themselves explaining their actions to have no Equality before the Law, which is enshrined in the European Convention of Human Rights and which is adopted by the Human Rights Act 1998, superior legislation to the CGSA.

Coumcillors have no formal training to deal with punishments.

They do this because they are not challenged and they hold the hearings in camera, so that the rest of us can't see how dictatorially and unreasonably they behave.

And of course because taxi drivers are stupid. They think that they are never going to fall foul of these draconian rules so they don't concern themselves with what's going down. Of course to consider that your fellow cabbie is being treated in this way is bad for all doesn't even cross they mind. That's how truly stupid they are.

And of course, the bloodsuckers and self-illusionists in organisations like the NTA and STF wouldn't contemplate raising the issue, lest it imperils their cosy relationship with those who are shafting us.

So, why should some bus driver, or grocer, or other tradesmen be able, without formal training or qualification, to judge others and punish them?

The law is clear. The council has the power to determine whether it believes someone is unfit to hold a licence. Any decision to remove a licence is appealable to the Sheriff Court.

The council has the power to suspend licences to protect the public. There is no provision for temporary suspensions.

So the four month suspension, if the period was specifically stipulated at the outset, is illegal and a breach of human rights.

Edinburgh's council knows this. They have adopted the practice of suspending licences until normal renewal, when they allow those whom they are shafting to reapply and be granted. We know this. This is also an abrogation of the Act and a breach of Human Rights.

No doubt councillors get their rocks off as they salivate while stiffing licence holders. That's the paucity of these individuals. Why they are scumbags

I refer to the Sheriff in Dumfries, specific case details forgotten but a lawyer could find it, who stated that such temporary suspensions were "illogical".

So Midlander, I trust that this is what tinled over your brain when your your mind meandered over the border and you punched the epithet "vvanker" on your keyboard.


:lol:


Shut up you cock.

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Midlander wrote:
Shut up


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He's grouchy, he and gary have been on holiday, they've just returned.

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Shut up


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He's grouchy, he and gary have been on holiday, they've just returned.

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The picture's missing again :?

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Shut up


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The picture's missing again :?


I can see it now!

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captain cab wrote:
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captain cab wrote:
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Shut up


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The picture's missing again :?


I can see it now!


I think you've been on the beer and you're seeing things ffs :lol:

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Isn't it amazing how those complaining about the Scottish section come along and ruin a perfectly sensible thread? :oops:

FFS

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captain cab wrote:
Jasbar wrote:
Midlander wrote:
What a vvanker.


I take it you mean the d*khead ars*hole on the council who thought he was a judge who could hand out punishment sentences?

Is this what our nation has come to?

Fact is that the council is not mandated to hand out punishments lke this to licence holders.

There are no punishment powers provided for in the CGSA.

All punishments handed down by our judicial processes require clear guidelines, acknowledgement of precedent, set penalties for specific transgressions and a right of appeal. Because of this, those who find themselves explaining their actions to have no Equality before the Law, which is enshrined in the European Convention of Human Rights and which is adopted by the Human Rights Act 1998, superior legislation to the CGSA.

Coumcillors have no formal training to deal with punishments.

They do this because they are not challenged and they hold the hearings in camera, so that the rest of us can't see how dictatorially and unreasonably they behave.

And of course because taxi drivers are stupid. They think that they are never going to fall foul of these draconian rules so they don't concern themselves with what's going down. Of course to consider that your fellow cabbie is being treated in this way is bad for all doesn't even cross they mind. That's how truly stupid they are.

And of course, the bloodsuckers and self-illusionists in organisations like the NTA and STF wouldn't contemplate raising the issue, lest it imperils their cosy relationship with those who are shafting us.

So, why should some bus driver, or grocer, or other tradesmen be able, without formal training or qualification, to judge others and punish them?

The law is clear. The council has the power to determine whether it believes someone is unfit to hold a licence. Any decision to remove a licence is appealable to the Sheriff Court.

The council has the power to suspend licences to protect the public. There is no provision for temporary suspensions.

So the four month suspension, if the period was specifically stipulated at the outset, is illegal and a breach of human rights.

Edinburgh's council knows this. They have adopted the practice of suspending licences until normal renewal, when they allow those whom they are shafting to reapply and be granted. We know this. This is also an abrogation of the Act and a breach of Human Rights.

No doubt councillors get their rocks off as they salivate while stiffing licence holders. That's the paucity of these individuals. Why they are scumbags

I refer to the Sheriff in Dumfries, specific case details forgotten but a lawyer could find it, who stated that such temporary suspensions were "illogical".

So Midlander, I trust that this is what tinled over your brain when your your mind meandered over the border and you punched the epithet "vvanker" on your keyboard.


:lol:


What a sh*te answer ffs.

CC


By the way, why is it that when I repeated a huge post and added a couple of words just to show how ignorant that was it was deleted by admin, but when it's done by those who do it just because they can't be arsed and enjoy spoiling the threads it's left in situ?

FFS

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Caledonian Cabbie wrote:
By the way, why is it that when I repeated a huge post and added a couple of words just to show how ignorant that was it was deleted by admin, but when it's done by those who do it just because they can't be arsed and enjoy spoiling the threads it's left in situ?

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I wish you'd use a comma.

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captain cab wrote:
Caledonian Cabbie wrote:
By the way, why is it that when I repeated a huge post and added a couple of words just to show how ignorant that was it was deleted by admin, but when it's done by those who do it just because they can't be arsed and enjoy spoiling the threads it's left in situ?

FFS

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I wish you'd use a comma.

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Well I'm not sure where you want me to put it, but here's a few anyway:
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