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Deacon Blue had a hit with 'Dignity' did'nt they ?


Yeah that's why I told him to buy a dinghy :wink:

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Deacon Blue had a hit with 'Dignity' did'nt they ?


Yeah that's why I told him to buy a dinghy :wink:


Toots, it's of no surprise to me. You don't understand the meaning of the word, dignity. I'm starting to believe that you and Dougie were separated at birth.

I was actually asked to start this thread to prove whether or not taxi drivers know what it is to be treated with respect.

A friend of mine, a professional individual, is of the opinion that taxi drivers, for the most part, lack the intelligence to know what having dignity really means. I think it fair to say. You can't be deprived of something if you are too ignorant to know what that something is.

This would go some way to explaining why taxi drivers have no intelligent consensus of how to protect or improve their interests and social status.


I think he is right. :-|


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GBC wrote:
Deacon Blue had a hit with 'Dignity' did'nt they ?


Yeah that's why I told him to buy a dinghy :wink:


Toots, it's of no surprise to me. You don't understand the meaning of the word, dignity. I'm starting to believe that you and Dougie were separated at birth.

I was actually asked to start this thread to prove whether or not taxi drivers know what it is to be treated with respect.

A friend of mine, a professional individual, is of the opinion that taxi drivers, for the most part, lack the intelligence to know what having dignity really means. I think it fair to say. You can't be deprived of something if you are too ignorant to know what that something is.

This would go some way to explaining why taxi drivers have no intelligent consensus of how to protect or improve their interests and social status.


I think he is right. :-|


I'm treated with dignity and respect by all that know me. I put forward a possible reason as to why some drivers allow certain things to happen. It wasn't what I allow to happen and it appears to me that you missed the concept that it was only a suggestion yet again. Sometimes I say on here what I believe to be true and sometimes I'll speculate and just give an opinion. You really need to read what I say and try to learn the difference. The dinghy comment was just a little humour, but, I keep forgetting you don't have much of a sense of humour really do you :wink:

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Deacon Blue had a hit with 'Dignity' did'nt they ?


Yeah that's why I told him to buy a dinghy :wink:


Toots, it's of no surprise to me. You don't understand the meaning of the word, dignity. I'm starting to believe that you and Dougie were separated at birth.

I was actually asked to start this thread to prove whether or not taxi drivers know what it is to be treated with respect.

A friend of mine, a professional individual, is of the opinion that taxi drivers, for the most part, lack the intelligence to know what having dignity really means. I think it fair to say. You can't be deprived of something if you are too ignorant to know what that something is.

This would go some way to explaining why taxi drivers have no intelligent consensus of how to protect or improve their interests and social status.


I think he is right. :-|


I'm treated with dignity and respect by all that know me. I put forward a possible reason as to why some drivers allow certain things to happen. It wasn't what I allow to happen and it appears to me that you missed the concept that it was only a suggestion yet again. Sometimes I say on here what I believe to be true and sometimes I'll speculate and just give an opinion. You really need to read what I say and try to learn the difference. The dinghy comment was just a little humour, but, I keep forgetting you don't have much of a sense of humour really do you :wink:


Toots, intelligent professional people would be up in arms if one of their own (irrespective of your personal feeling about the individual) were treaded without dignity. They would recognise the insult in a heartbeat. It would be WAR. They would not accept any action by any group or individual that could possibly degrade their professional status. Taxi drivers in general, including you, have little or no idea what I am talking about. This thread is not about how your chums relate to you as an individual. It's about professional and public opinion and their perception of what it means to be a taxi driver.

My battle with the Cab Inspector and the Council is because I won't accept what you can't recognise.


Once again, my friend was right, dignity for you people, is a foreign concept. You simply lack the intelligence to know any better. :-|


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Skull wrote:
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Skull wrote:
toots wrote:
GBC wrote:
Deacon Blue had a hit with 'Dignity' did'nt they ?


Yeah that's why I told him to buy a dinghy :wink:


Toots, it's of no surprise to me. You don't understand the meaning of the word, dignity. I'm starting to believe that you and Dougie were separated at birth.

I was actually asked to start this thread to prove whether or not taxi drivers know what it is to be treated with respect.

A friend of mine, a professional individual, is of the opinion that taxi drivers, for the most part, lack the intelligence to know what having dignity really means. I think it fair to say. You can't be deprived of something if you are too ignorant to know what that something is.

This would go some way to explaining why taxi drivers have no intelligent consensus of how to protect or improve their interests and social status.


I think he is right. :-|


I'm treated with dignity and respect by all that know me. I put forward a possible reason as to why some drivers allow certain things to happen. It wasn't what I allow to happen and it appears to me that you missed the concept that it was only a suggestion yet again. Sometimes I say on here what I believe to be true and sometimes I'll speculate and just give an opinion. You really need to read what I say and try to learn the difference. The dinghy comment was just a little humour, but, I keep forgetting you don't have much of a sense of humour really do you :wink:


Toots, intelligent professional people would be up in arms if one of their own (irrespective of your personal feeling about the individual) were treaded without dignity. They would recognise the insult in a heartbeat. It would be WAR. They would not accept any action by any group or individual that could possibly degrade their professional status. Taxi drivers in general, including you, have little or no idea what I am talking about. This thread is not about how your chums relate to you as an individual. It's about professional and public opinion and their perception of what it means to be a taxi driver.

My battle with the Cab Inspector and the Council is because I won't accept what you can't recognise.


Once again, my friend was right, dignity for you people, is a foreign concept. You simply lack the intelligence to know any better. :-|


Well I wasn't just referring to my 'chums' when I said everybody I know has respect for me, I was also referring to professional people with whom I deal with on a regular basis. Having said that on the whole the public here do have respect for taxi drivers. Generally as a rule respect has to earned it's not just given. How many of the public have respect for solicitors, estate agents or even our politicians. As for the supposed dignity that you talk about that the intelligent professional people enjoy, it can be bought and sold like everything else.

As I see it the council knew what you would do and even though it went against their own procedure they did it anyway. It was wrong for them to do that and foolish for you to allow them. Having said that I don't think you're entirely bothered because apparently you needed the excuse to get out of this trade, just leaving the trade without a fuss just wouldn't be acceptable to you. I hope you take pride in the fact that you think you are one of the most intelligent taxi drivers without a licence

I stand by what I said earlier regarding the reasons why some drivers allow things to happen. Putting your families needs before the needs of the trade is not something to be ashamed of IMO

Happy retirement :wink:

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toots wrote:
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Skull wrote:
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GBC wrote:
Deacon Blue had a hit with 'Dignity' did'nt they ?


Yeah that's why I told him to buy a dinghy :wink:


Toots, it's of no surprise to me. You don't understand the meaning of the word, dignity. I'm starting to believe that you and Dougie were separated at birth.

I was actually asked to start this thread to prove whether or not taxi drivers know what it is to be treated with respect.

A friend of mine, a professional individual, is of the opinion that taxi drivers, for the most part, lack the intelligence to know what having dignity really means. I think it fair to say. You can't be deprived of something if you are too ignorant to know what that something is.

This would go some way to explaining why taxi drivers have no intelligent consensus of how to protect or improve their interests and social status.


I think he is right. :-|


I'm treated with dignity and respect by all that know me. I put forward a possible reason as to why some drivers allow certain things to happen. It wasn't what I allow to happen and it appears to me that you missed the concept that it was only a suggestion yet again. Sometimes I say on here what I believe to be true and sometimes I'll speculate and just give an opinion. You really need to read what I say and try to learn the difference. The dinghy comment was just a little humour, but, I keep forgetting you don't have much of a sense of humour really do you :wink:


Toots, intelligent professional people would be up in arms if one of their own (irrespective of your personal feeling about the individual) were treaded without dignity. They would recognise the insult in a heartbeat. It would be WAR. They would not accept any action by any group or individual that could possibly degrade their professional status. Taxi drivers in general, including you, have little or no idea what I am talking about. This thread is not about how your chums relate to you as an individual. It's about professional and public opinion and their perception of what it means to be a taxi driver.

My battle with the Cab Inspector and the Council is because I won't accept what you can't recognise.


Once again, my friend was right, dignity for you people, is a foreign concept. You simply lack the intelligence to know any better. :-|


Well I wasn't just referring to my 'chums' when I said everybody I know has respect for me, I was also referring to professional people with whom I deal with on a regular basis. Having said that on the whole the public here do have respect for taxi drivers. Generally as a rule respect has to earned it's not just given. How many of the public have respect for solicitors, estate agents or even our politicians. As for the supposed dignity that you talk about that the intelligent professional people enjoy, it can be bought and sold like everything else.

As I see it the council knew what you would do and even though it went against their own procedure they did it anyway. It was wrong for them to do that and foolish for you to allow them. Having said that I don't think you're entirely bothered because apparently you needed the excuse to get out of this trade, just leaving the trade without a fuss just wouldn't be acceptable to you. I hope you take pride in the fact that you think you are one of the most intelligent taxi drivers without a licence

I stand by what I said earlier regarding the reasons why some drivers allow things to happen. Putting your families needs before the needs of the trade is not something to be ashamed of IMO

Happy retirement :wink:


Okay Toots, you've actually made a couple of fair points, in a sort of jumbled up way. :?

However, for the benefit of the viewers could you explain what it means as a taxi driver to have, and to be treated with, dignity, in your mind at least?

It's a simple enough question Toots.

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Skull, while I concur with all your views about Dignity and taxi drivers, you are letting yourself down badly to be asking toots the same question over and over, when to my mind she has already answered you with more than adequate & dignified response, you are coming across with the same beratement & bullying of which you accuse others?


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Skull, while I concur with all your views about Dignity and taxi drivers, you are letting yourself down badly to be asking toots the same question over and over, when to my mind she has already answered you with more than adequate & dignified response, you are coming across with the same beratement & bullying of which you accuse others?


Toots, has told us that she knows what it is to be treated with dignity. However, she has not explained what it is to have dignity, in her mind, really means. Depending on your understanding she may have come close but in my mind, no cigar. I am just giving her the opportunity to make her position clear.

My bet is, she will have quite a bit of difficulty trying to explain her understanding of that simple little word. I will of course endeavor to give you my own understanding in due course. Then you can pick whatever version you prefer.

I expect Toots, is still thrashing around trying to come up with an explanation or is looking for an excuse to avoid giving one. :-|

Eight hundred plus views over a weekend and counting, someone must be interested. :shock:


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Skull wrote:
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Skull, while I concur with all your views about Dignity and taxi drivers, you are letting yourself down badly to be asking toots the same question over and over, when to my mind she has already answered you with more than adequate & dignified response, you are coming across with the same beratement & bullying of which you accuse others?


Toots, has told us that she knows what it is to be treated with dignity. However, she has not explained what it is to have dignity, in her mind, really means. Depending on your understanding she may have come close but in my mind, no cigar. I am just giving her the opportunity to make her position clear.

My bet is, she will have quite a bit of difficulty trying to explain her understanding of that simple little word. I will of course endeavor to give you my own understanding in due course. Then you can pick whatever version you prefer.

I expect Toots, is still thrashing around trying to come up with an explanation or is looking for an excuse to avoid giving one. :-|

Eight hundred plus views over a weekend and counting, someone must be interested. :shock:

Skull ffs you ask to be treated in a dignified manor but you don't practice what you preach and there is plenty of evidence of that on here :roll:

To act with Dignity is to act in a professional manor towards whoever you are dealing with, in a fair and without discriminatory way, respect though works both way's and this is where you fall over, you do not treat people with respect, you never act with Dignity but we who do act with Dignity don't rise to your un-dignified manor but we do try to point out that fact to you without treating you in an un-dignified manor, you can throw all your insults at us but we act with dignity :D yes with a smile :D

Move on with Dignity Skull :wink: Or is it too late :?:

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Skull, while I concur with all your views about Dignity and taxi drivers, you are letting yourself down badly to be asking toots the same question over and over, when to my mind she has already answered you with more than adequate & dignified response, you are coming across with the same beratement & bullying of which you accuse others?


Toots, has told us that she knows what it is to be treated with dignity. However, she has not explained what it is to have dignity, in her mind, really means. Depending on your understanding she may have come close but in my mind, no cigar. I am just giving her the opportunity to make her position clear.

My bet is, she will have quite a bit of difficulty trying to explain her understanding of that simple little word. I will of course endeavor to give you my own understanding in due course. Then you can pick whatever version you prefer.

I expect Toots, is still thrashing around trying to come up with an explanation or is looking for an excuse to avoid giving one. :-|

Eight hundred plus views over a weekend and counting, someone must be interested. :shock:

Skull ffs you ask to be treated in a dignified manor but you don't practice what you preach and there is plenty of evidence of that on here :roll:

To act with Dignity is to act in a professional manor towards whoever you are dealing with, in a fair and without discriminatory way, respect though works both way's and this is where you fall over, you do not treat people with respect, you never act with Dignity but we who do act with Dignity don't rise to your un-dignified manor but we do try to point out that fact to you without treating you in an un-dignified manor, you can throw all your insults at us but we act with dignity :D yes with a smile :D

Move on with Dignity Skull :wink: Or is it too late :?:



Dougie, I merely treat you in the same undignified manor as the council would if it suited their political agenda. I'm actually surprised you even noticed. If it's good enough for your pals in the councl Dougie, then it's good enough for me.

I've made it no secret that I think you are the shi* on my shoes.

Oh and Dougie, I hope that's not your best attempt to explain what having dignity really means. :-|


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Save everyone a whole lot of bother if you simply told us what you want to hear instead of circling your own rearguard.


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Save everyone a whole lot of bother if you simply told us what you want to hear instead of circling your own rearguard.


A very astute observation.


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According to Plato, “he doesn't know what justice is, but he knows what justice is not”.

Words like justice, freedom and dignity, are all abstract in their meanings. It all depends on your knowledge, understanding, and personal circumstances. They can mean many different things to different people. Toots, is not wrong in some respects but is in many others.

To paraphrase Plato, I don't know what dignity is, but I know what dignity is not.

It is not being denied your right to equality before the law, or the presumption of innocence before guilt. The right not to be forced to become a witness against yourself, or should I say, your right to remain silent when faced with a malicious allegation. It is not coming to a decision without first being presented with corroboration or credible evidence and believing what you like. And it is not denying someone their right to a fair hearing through the partiality of the process.

You see Toots. These are all fundamental rights that everyone is supposed to have, even taxi drivers.

So where does a taxi drivers dignity lie when faced with a malicious allegation. Perhaps in spilling his guts before the Cab Inspector in some desperate bid to keep his licence? I know. It must be up before the Council Regulatory Committee begging to councillors when your fundamental rights simply don't exist.

Taxi drivers have no rights and are stripped of whatever little dignity they might have, and it's no accident. The council and the Cab Inspector want to keep their boot on your throat.


As I said before, you can't be deprived of something if you are too ignorant to know what that something is. In that respect Toots, your dignity remains intact, at least at some level, probably with your chums.



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Skull wrote:
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Skull wrote:
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GBC wrote:
Deacon Blue had a hit with 'Dignity' did'nt they ?


Yeah that's why I told him to buy a dinghy :wink:


Toots, it's of no surprise to me. You don't understand the meaning of the word, dignity. I'm starting to believe that you and Dougie were separated at birth.

I was actually asked to start this thread to prove whether or not taxi drivers know what it is to be treated with respect.

A friend of mine, a professional individual, is of the opinion that taxi drivers, for the most part, lack the intelligence to know what having dignity really means. I think it fair to say. You can't be deprived of something if you are too ignorant to know what that something is.

This would go some way to explaining why taxi drivers have no intelligent consensus of how to protect or improve their interests and social status.


I think he is right. :-|


I'm treated with dignity and respect by all that know me. I put forward a possible reason as to why some drivers allow certain things to happen. It wasn't what I allow to happen and it appears to me that you missed the concept that it was only a suggestion yet again. Sometimes I say on here what I believe to be true and sometimes I'll speculate and just give an opinion. You really need to read what I say and try to learn the difference. The dinghy comment was just a little humour, but, I keep forgetting you don't have much of a sense of humour really do you :wink:


Toots, intelligent professional people would be up in arms if one of their own (irrespective of your personal feeling about the individual) were treaded without dignity. They would recognise the insult in a heartbeat. It would be WAR. They would not accept any action by any group or individual that could possibly degrade their professional status. Taxi drivers in general, including you, have little or no idea what I am talking about. This thread is not about how your chums relate to you as an individual. It's about professional and public opinion and their perception of what it means to be a taxi driver.

My battle with the Cab Inspector and the Council is because I won't accept what you can't recognise.


Once again, my friend was right, dignity for you people, is a foreign concept. You simply lack the intelligence to know any better. :-|


Well I wasn't just referring to my 'chums' when I said everybody I know has respect for me, I was also referring to professional people with whom I deal with on a regular basis. Having said that on the whole the public here do have respect for taxi drivers. Generally as a rule respect has to earned it's not just given. How many of the public have respect for solicitors, estate agents or even our politicians. As for the supposed dignity that you talk about that the intelligent professional people enjoy, it can be bought and sold like everything else.

As I see it the council knew what you would do and even though it went against their own procedure they did it anyway. It was wrong for them to do that and foolish for you to allow them. Having said that I don't think you're entirely bothered because apparently you needed the excuse to get out of this trade, just leaving the trade without a fuss just wouldn't be acceptable to you. I hope you take pride in the fact that you think you are one of the most intelligent taxi drivers without a licence

I stand by what I said earlier regarding the reasons why some drivers allow things to happen. Putting your families needs before the needs of the trade is not something to be ashamed of IMO

Happy retirement :wink:


Okay Toots, you've actually made a couple of fair points, in a sort of jumbled up way. :?

However, for the benefit of the viewers could you explain what it means as a taxi driver to have, and to be treated with, dignity, in your mind at least?
It's a simple enough question Toots.

:-|


Dignity is such a subjective matter to discuss. It depends on so many different variables such as sex, gender, race, upbringing etc etc. Violation of a persons dignity would depend on so many things. I'm not entirely sure if dignity is the appropriate word to be using considering the circumstances mentioned at the beginning of this thread. However I will indulge your request. For the council to violate my dignity they would perhaps have to insist on a dress code that is of an overly sexualised nature or perhaps they insisted that a label advertising an alleged misdemeanor was affixed to my vehicle. Some drivers may find that their dignity is offended by having to drive pink vehicles, I however wouldn't :wink:

\with regard to being treated with respect I would expect the council to follow their own procedures in dealing with matters relating to myself, ensuring that I am aware of those procedures and treating all matters in a confidential manner. Respect is a two way street IMO

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You see Toots. These are all fundamental rights that everyone is supposed to have, even taxi drivers.


If you want to talk about a violation of your rights then do so but don't discuise it as a violation of your dignity. I guess you discussing a violation of your rights has been hashed on here so many times with so many different aspects to it your running out of ideas

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