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We had a consultation with the disabled group... many of them regular taxi users.... that travel with their wheelchairs facing sideways... it was pointed out to them they would not be able to travel this way in future.... and they are not very happy... the reason being that if they are placed in facing the rear, the stopping and starting motion creates pressure and pain.. but travelling sideways they are OK..... the politically correct brigade have basically condemn them from using taxes.. and restricted their ability to live a normal life.... serious discussions between the disabled groups and Sefton council are still ongoing..

What's to discuss?

They either travel in the prescribed, correct manner, with the wheelchair in the correct position and correctly restrained OR THEY DON'T TRAVEL!!!

PERIOD!!!

I used to be proud of being a taxi-driver.... working with the public... keeping a clean vehicle... and people showing their appreciation for the service that I gave... sometimes it would mean... going that little bit more.... I would never dream of looking for an excuse to leave a disabled person standard .. I would always find a way.... but then I was a professional hackney driver... which it would seem nowadays... are few and far between....

Who gets sued if a passenger in a wheelchair is transported incorrectly and is injured?

Who gets his licence suspended or revoked in a serious case of the above?

please tell me who has as yet

What's wrong with doing the job in the prescribed manner?
life does not run smoothly... we have to adapt.... and we do.... even though the jobsworths who know better than anyone else create obstacles and then later on have to remove them because they do not work.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
We had a consultation with the disabled group... many of them regular taxi users.... that travel with their wheelchairs facing sideways... it was pointed out to them they would not be able to travel this way in future.... and they are not very happy... the reason being that if they are placed in facing the rear, the stopping and starting motion creates pressure and pain.. but travelling sideways they are OK..... the politically correct brigade have basically condemn them from using taxes.. and restricted their ability to live a normal life.... serious discussions between the disabled groups and Sefton council are still ongoing..

What's to discuss?

They either travel in the prescribed, correct manner, with the wheelchair in the correct position and correctly restrained OR THEY DON'T TRAVEL!!!

PERIOD!!!

I used to be proud of being a taxi-driver.... working with the public... keeping a clean vehicle... and people showing their appreciation for the service that I gave... sometimes it would mean... going that little bit more.... I would never dream of looking for an excuse to leave a disabled person standard .. I would always find a way.... but then I was a professional hackney driver... which it would seem nowadays... are few and far between....

Who gets sued if a passenger in a wheelchair is transported incorrectly and is injured?

Who gets his licence suspended or revoked in a serious case of the above?

please tell me who has as yet

What's wrong with doing the job in the prescribed manner?
I'm getting old and forgetful, and would greatly appreciate your help... now in a petitioned hackney... the driver is not responsible whether his passenger wears a seat belts or not... point me in the direction as to what law requires a disabled person in a wheelchair to wear a seatbelt... and if he doesn't... how the driver is breaking the law.. does not the disabled person have the same right as an able-bodied person.

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MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
We had a consultation with the disabled group... many of them regular taxi users.... that travel with their wheelchairs facing sideways... it was pointed out to them they would not be able to travel this way in future.... and they are not very happy... the reason being that if they are placed in facing the rear, the stopping and starting motion creates pressure and pain.. but travelling sideways they are OK..... the politically correct brigade have basically condemn them from using taxes.. and restricted their ability to live a normal life.... serious discussions between the disabled groups and Sefton council are still ongoing..

What's to discuss?

They either travel in the prescribed, correct manner, with the wheelchair in the correct position and correctly restrained OR THEY DON'T TRAVEL!!!

PERIOD!!!

I used to be proud of being a taxi-driver.... working with the public... keeping a clean vehicle... and people showing their appreciation for the service that I gave... sometimes it would mean... going that little bit more.... I would never dream of looking for an excuse to leave a disabled person standard .. I would always find a way.... but then I was a professional hackney driver... which it would seem nowadays... are few and far between....

Who gets sued if a passenger in a wheelchair is transported incorrectly and is injured?

Who gets his licence suspended or revoked in a serious case of the above?

please tell me who has as yet

What's wrong with doing the job in the prescribed manner?
life does not run smoothly... we have to adapt.... and we do.... even though the jobsworths who know better than anyone else create obstacles and then later on have to remove them because they do not work.


There is nothing professional about putting people at risk just to get the job done. Do it properly or not at all.

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gusmac wrote:
MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
We had a consultation with the disabled group... many of them regular taxi users.... that travel with their wheelchairs facing sideways... it was pointed out to them they would not be able to travel this way in future.... and they are not very happy... the reason being that if they are placed in facing the rear, the stopping and starting motion creates pressure and pain.. but travelling sideways they are OK..... the politically correct brigade have basically condemn them from using taxes.. and restricted their ability to live a normal life.... serious discussions between the disabled groups and Sefton council are still ongoing..

What's to discuss?

They either travel in the prescribed, correct manner, with the wheelchair in the correct position and correctly restrained OR THEY DON'T TRAVEL!!!

PERIOD!!!

I used to be proud of being a taxi-driver.... working with the public... keeping a clean vehicle... and people showing their appreciation for the service that I gave... sometimes it would mean... going that little bit more.... I would never dream of looking for an excuse to leave a disabled person standard .. I would always find a way.... but then I was a professional hackney driver... which it would seem nowadays... are few and far between....

Who gets sued if a passenger in a wheelchair is transported incorrectly and is injured?

Who gets his licence suspended or revoked in a serious case of the above?

please tell me who has as yet

What's wrong with doing the job in the prescribed manner?
life does not run smoothly... we have to adapt.... and we do.... even though the jobsworths who know better than anyone else create obstacles and then later on have to remove them because they do not work.


There is nothing professional about putting people at risk just to get the job done. Do it properly or not at all.
And how many children have you left in the middle of nowhere on a dark and rainy night because there was one too many... and what would you say to the taxi driver that left your daughter by herself....................And what is properly

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MR T wrote:
gusmac wrote:
MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
We had a consultation with the disabled group... many of them regular taxi users.... that travel with their wheelchairs facing sideways... it was pointed out to them they would not be able to travel this way in future.... and they are not very happy... the reason being that if they are placed in facing the rear, the stopping and starting motion creates pressure and pain.. but travelling sideways they are OK..... the politically correct brigade have basically condemn them from using taxes.. and restricted their ability to live a normal life.... serious discussions between the disabled groups and Sefton council are still ongoing..

What's to discuss?

They either travel in the prescribed, correct manner, with the wheelchair in the correct position and correctly restrained OR THEY DON'T TRAVEL!!!

PERIOD!!!

I used to be proud of being a taxi-driver.... working with the public... keeping a clean vehicle... and people showing their appreciation for the service that I gave... sometimes it would mean... going that little bit more.... I would never dream of looking for an excuse to leave a disabled person standard .. I would always find a way.... but then I was a professional hackney driver... which it would seem nowadays... are few and far between....

Who gets sued if a passenger in a wheelchair is transported incorrectly and is injured?

Who gets his licence suspended or revoked in a serious case of the above?

please tell me who has as yet

What's wrong with doing the job in the prescribed manner?
life does not run smoothly... we have to adapt.... and we do.... even though the jobsworths who know better than anyone else create obstacles and then later on have to remove them because they do not work.


There is nothing professional about putting people at risk just to get the job done. Do it properly or not at all.
And how many children have you left in the middle of nowhere on a dark and rainy night because there was one too many... and what would you say to the taxi driver that left your daughter by herself....................And what is properly


U been drinking buckfast again? :lol:

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MR T wrote:
I'm getting old and forgetful, and would greatly appreciate your help... now in a petitioned hackney... the driver is not responsible whether his passenger wears a seat belts or not... point me in the direction as to what law requires a disabled person in a wheelchair to wear a seatbelt... and if he doesn't... how the driver is breaking the law.. does not the disabled person have the same right as an able-bodied person.

You know better than that Mr T; you're on a bleedin' wind-up!!!

Again!!!

I should have caught on sooner.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
I'm getting old and forgetful, and would greatly appreciate your help... now in a petitioned hackney... the driver is not responsible whether his passenger wears a seat belts or not... point me in the direction as to what law requires a disabled person in a wheelchair to wear a seatbelt... and if he doesn't... how the driver is breaking the law.. does not the disabled person have the same right as an able-bodied person.

You know better than that Mr T; you're on a bleedin' wind-up!!!

Again!!!

I should have caught on sooner.
I was only broadening the debate..... and hopefully stimulating the little grey cells.. with the use... of parallel thinking.. :wink:

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the reason being that if they are placed in facing the rear, the stopping and starting motion creates pressure and pain.. but travelling sideways they are OK


If they are facing the rear or front in the prescribed manner and the brakes are applied suddenly with force a person can expect whiplash to some degree, but, if they are sitted sideways what is likely to be the damage caused to the neck and back then?
I take it toot's you are making your comparison with your own knowledge of able body passengers... now let's say your passenger has no legs and a small torso ... d'you think it is the same for them...


Have they still got a neck :?

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MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
I'm getting old and forgetful, and would greatly appreciate your help... now in a petitioned hackney... the driver is not responsible whether his passenger wears a seat belts or not... point me in the direction as to what law requires a disabled person in a wheelchair to wear a seatbelt... and if he doesn't... how the driver is breaking the law.. does not the disabled person have the same right as an able-bodied person.

You know better than that Mr T; you're on a bleedin' wind-up!!!

Again!!!

I should have caught on sooner.

I was only broadening the debate..... and hopefully stimulating the little grey cells.. with the use... of parallel thinking.. :wink:

Is that pun intended too?

Viz-a-viz; parallel thinking, parallel wheelchair ramps?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:49 pm 
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Chris the Fish wrote:
I carry lots of wheelchair passengers. They are regulars and know my policy which is:

Wheelchair passengers who will not or can not be properly secured will not under any circumstance be carried.

Occasionally I get a prospective wheelchair job at the rank - if they are securable I carry them - if not I don't.

If I refuse I give the prospective fare my badge and plate number as well as the contact number for the licensing office in case they wish to complain. So far not one has made a complaint. If a complaint is ever made, I will robustly defend my policy.

Toots is quite right - sitting forward or backward to the direction of travel, whiplash is a possibility - sitting sideways a broken neck is a real possibility. But, if stationary, the vehicle hit from the side may produce a similar effect. Unfortunately it comes down to a question of probability and the higher probability is that an accident involves the taxi being in motion up to the point of impact.
Yes Chris did show me it on Sat when we met :D


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