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what happened to "the punishment should fit the crime"?

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Think this is a better list, c/o the Guardian. :shock:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreads ... c&hl=en_US

I see that in the vast majority of cases the 'Occupation' column is empty.

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wannabeeahack wrote:
what happened to "the punishment should fit the crime"?


Patience!! There will be one or two that will go down for quite a substantial sentence...............it's called making an example! the rest will end up getting Asbos, curfews, work experience (sorry I mean community service), followed by "let that be a lesson to you all".

They (the gov) will carry on in their merry way socially depriving the nation as best as they can, thinking up other ways of emptying the public's pocket/purse. The rhetoric will be on the lines of telling people that they have been wonderful in looking after and taking responsibility for their communities, and that is what they would like to see, more of this.

The bottom line is that "SUCCESSIVE" governments have had a hand in this, "Miliband" is quoted as saying that they are all as one in agreeing that this has got to be stopped, and that these people have got to be brought to heel, so as I say successive governments and the ones to come will follow the same system...............because there is more financial reward for them at the end of the day "Tony Bliar being a fine example".

Yes fathers have gone missing, but mothers have also gone missing due to the fact that they have to work as not many can exist on one wage, so yet another reason as to why family values break down, it's called "Suppression". The seeds for this breakdown started many years ago, and now they are reaping the harvest of the seeds that they have sown.

In answer to your question, see your local M.P.

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John, do you REALLY think anyone in the UK is REALLY deprived? (excluding those who wish to be)?

As for mothers working, i wouldnt go there if i was you, my mum had to work 40 years ago and the goverment at the time (whichever) was of no consequence, and i know a local couple with no kids, hes on £250K a year but his wife still works part time, whats to blame is the welfare society we live in handing out taxpayers money willy-nilly to all and sundry, stupid HMG rules, a Labour goverment that manouvered millions into invalidity benefits so they never appeared on the unemployment figures, councils paying private let rents of £1200 a WEEK in certain locations to idle layabout ilegal immigrants, compo cases by the likes of hook-handed terrorists and much more

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You need to take your blinkers off a bit,maybe try another paper than the mail :wink: There is people in this country that are living in poverty fact.Im not talking about 40 years ago ,of what relevance is that, nostalgia?The difference now is the same ,the rich are richer than ever,the middle class are ok id say they do pretty well and the poor ? same as ever poor....


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I do not accept that true poverty exists in this country, if someone wants to [edited by admin] thier giro up the wall or spend it on ganga or heroin, or whatever, thats not poverty, thats self-inflicted, you only have to clock the sky dishes on the walls of the chav estates and the single mums pushing prams round wearing designer labels smoking 40 a day, thats not poverty

the 20's were poverty, Somalia is poverty, not Tottenham council estates

Blackpool, if someone pleaded poverty before getting in your cab and wanted a 20 mile trip fpr free would you take em?

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wannabeeahack wrote:
I do not accept that true poverty exists in this country, if someone wants to [edited by admin] thier giro up the wall or spend it on ganga or heroin, or whatever, thats not poverty, thats self-inflicted, you only have to clock the sky dishes on the walls of the chav estates and the single mums pushing prams round wearing designer labels smoking 40 a day, thats not poverty

the 20's were poverty, Somalia is poverty, not Tottenham council estates

Blackpool, if someone pleaded poverty before getting in your cab and wanted a 20 mile trip fpr free would you take em?


Poverty is not simply about putting food in your mouth. And there is more than one kind of starvation. Have you ever considered that the mind needs nourishment too, perhaps, the possibility of a life with real opportunities and a chance for fulfilment?

I bet most of these kids can barely read and write. And before you say they had the same chance as anyone else, that simply isn't true. They were disadvantaged from the day they were born, to when they left school, to their first unemployment cheque. :-|


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wannabeeahack wrote:
I do not accept that true poverty exists in this country, if someone wants to [edited by admin] thier giro up the wall or spend it on ganga or heroin, or whatever, thats not poverty, thats self-inflicted, you only have to clock the sky dishes on the walls of the chav estates and the single mums pushing prams round wearing designer labels smoking 40 a day, thats not poverty

the 20's were poverty, Somalia is poverty, not Tottenham council estates

Blackpool, if someone pleaded poverty before getting in your cab and wanted a 20 mile trip fpr free would you take em?


Poverty is not simply about putting food in your mouth. And there is more than one kind of starvation. Have you ever considered that the mind needs nourishment too, perhaps, the possibility of a life with real opportunities and a chance for fulfilment?

I bet most of these kids can barely read and write. And before you say they had the same chance as anyone else, that simply isn't true. They were disadvantaged from the day they were born, to when they left school, to their first unemployment cheque. :-|


To a certain degree I'd agree with you because there are lots of reasons why people don't learn or are able to take advantage of the education available to them. Having said that it appears that quite a lot of these rioters weren't disadvantaged in the way I believe you are referring to.

I note you write a lot about a fair days pay for a fair days work but what exactly do you call a fair days pay for a fair days work?

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wannabeeahack wrote:
I do not accept that true poverty exists in this country, if someone wants to [edited by admin] thier giro up the wall or spend it on ganga or heroin, or whatever, thats not poverty, thats self-inflicted, you only have to clock the sky dishes on the walls of the chav estates and the single mums pushing prams round wearing designer labels smoking 40 a day, thats not poverty

the 20's were poverty, Somalia is poverty, not Tottenham council estates

Blackpool, if someone pleaded poverty before getting in your cab and wanted a 20 mile trip fpr free would you take em?


Poverty is not simply about putting food in your mouth. And there is more than one kind of starvation. Have you ever considered that the mind needs nourishment too, perhaps, the possibility of a life with real opportunities and a chance for fulfilment?

I bet most of these kids can barely read and write. And before you say they had the same chance as anyone else, that simply isn't true. They were disadvantaged from the day they were born, to when they left school, to their first unemployment cheque. :-|


To a certain degree I'd agree with you because there are lots of reasons why people don't learn or are able to take advantage of the education available to them. Having said that it appears that quite a lot of these rioters weren't disadvantaged in the way I believe you are referring to.

I note you write a lot about a fair days pay for a fair days work but what exactly do you call a fair days pay for a fair days work?


Children don't fail to take advantage of the “education made available to them.” The simply can't access education, which is not conducive to how they learn. Their backgrounds in most cases only make matters worse.

Not bad for someone who left school and could barely read and write, don't you think, Toots. :wink:

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Fair pay comes after education and not before.


That doesn't answer the question of what a fair days pay for a fair days work is

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Fair pay comes after education and not before.


That doesn't answer the question of what a fair days pay for a fair days work is


If you are not educated enough to know "what a fair days pay for a fair days work is." how would you know?

You can be sure, if taxi drivers were educated enough to know what a fair days pay is, they'd be getting paid a hell of a lot more than they are now.

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I wrote a letter last week for a guy in his fifties, that he could barely sign. It was intended for the procurator fiscal. He'd gotten himself into a bit of bother, a misunderstanding no less with the threat of prosecution hanging over his head. To say this man was terrified is an understatement. The relief I witnessed when I read out the letter explaining his side of the story was palpable.

Fear, frustration, anxiety, low self-esteem, anger and violence, it's all there.

And the reason for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_aVuS7cOIQ


Personally, I think all these rioters, and looters should spend a night in the box. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_aVuS7cOIQ

One of the best beginnings of a film ever!!

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Fair pay comes after education and not before.

That doesn't answer the question of what a fair days pay for a fair days work is

If you are not educated enough to know "what a fair days pay for a fair days work is." how would you know?

You can be sure, if taxi drivers were educated enough to know what a fair days pay is, they'd be getting paid a hell of a lot more than they are now.

:-|

:-k :-s

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Fair pay comes after education and not before.


That doesn't answer the question of what a fair days pay for a fair days work is


he cant give you an answer cos he hasnt got one

its easy to spout idealogical rubbish, so ill make it easy for him

£7/hour is good enough for many (some would love it) and it doesnt always require an "education" (not that he could quantify that either)

its not possible for everyone to be a rocket scientist, or even a taxi driver

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