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The sad fact is that the bulk/hardcore/ring leaders in the riots may well have been "ghetto" kids and gang members who have little education (though there were some glaring exceptions, qualified people) but if they wont go to school, and the parent (sometimes parents) wont send them how do you educate them?


Tell me something, do you see yourself as a man of conviction who is prepared to stand up for what he believes in?

On the other hand, are you just a coward, and a back stabbing little worm?

How do you see yourself?


Two simple questions, neither of which I am accusing you of being? :-|
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A minimum wage is set by the government, and is the very least you should be paid. It is not a market rate.


Do you think it's a fair rate?


Well, I don't know if it's fair, but it's better than not having one. :-|


One might say you have a lot to say but in reality you say nothing really. I'll tell you what I think about the national minimum wage and whether it is fair or not. Imo it really depends what I have to do to obtain it :wink: As far as I am concerned if you pay minimum wage you are likely to get minimum effort :D



And one might say everything you say is in defence of your subjective reality. You see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear, and believe what you want to believe. You are living proof that the “education” system in this country creates compliant and obedient workers.

It makes me glad I missed out.


I do believe this can be said of you too. Having you as an example of how I could have turned out if I weren't educated is enough to make me thankful that I am


A wee problem, I am not defending anything but questioning everything. You are the one defending, as it is, your subjective reality that's coming under attack.


So no, the same couldn't be said about me.


As I said before,you see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear, and believe what you want to believe. You are living proof that the “education” system in this country creates compliant and obedient workers.
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Skull wrote:
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A minimum wage is set by the government, and is the very least you should be paid. It is not a market rate.


Do you think it's a fair rate?


Well, I don't know if it's fair, but it's better than not having one. :-|


One might say you have a lot to say but in reality you say nothing really. I'll tell you what I think about the national minimum wage and whether it is fair or not. Imo it really depends what I have to do to obtain it :wink: As far as I am concerned if you pay minimum wage you are likely to get minimum effort :D


I wasn't defending anything I was expressing an opinion which is more than you ever do



And one might say everything you say is in defence of your subjective reality. You see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear, and believe what you want to believe. You are living proof that the “education” system in this country creates compliant and obedient workers.

It makes me glad I missed out.


I do believe this can be said of you too. Having you as an example of how I could have turned out if I weren't educated is enough to make me thankful that I am


A wee problem, I am not defending anything but questioning everything. You are the one defending, as it is, your subjective reality that's coming under attack.


So no, the same couldn't be said about me.


As I said before,you see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear, and believe what you want to believe. You are living proof that the “education” system in this country creates compliant and obedient workers.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :twisted: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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toots wrote:
Skull wrote:
toots wrote:
Skull wrote:
toots wrote:
Skull wrote:
toots wrote:
skull wrote:
A minimum wage is set by the government, and is the very least you should be paid. It is not a market rate.


Do you think it's a fair rate?


Well, I don't know if it's fair, but it's better than not having one. :-|


One might say you have a lot to say but in reality you say nothing really. I'll tell you what I think about the national minimum wage and whether it is fair or not. Imo it really depends what I have to do to obtain it :wink: As far as I am concerned if you pay minimum wage you are likely to get minimum effort :D


I wasn't defending anything I was expressing an opinion which is more than you ever do



And one might say everything you say is in defence of your subjective reality. You see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear, and believe what you want to believe. You are living proof that the “education” system in this country creates compliant and obedient workers.

It makes me glad I missed out.


I do believe this can be said of you too. Having you as an example of how I could have turned out if I weren't educated is enough to make me thankful that I am


A wee problem, I am not defending anything but questioning everything. You are the one defending, as it is, your subjective reality that's coming under attack.


So no, the same couldn't be said about me.


As I said before,you see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear, and believe what you want to believe. You are living proof that the “education” system in this country creates compliant and obedient workers.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :twisted: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Did I forget to mention your man problems? I don't think there is anything subjective in that. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: A fact if there ever was one. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:roll: That's not something I need worry myself with when chatting with such a child as yourself. It was almost becoming interesting. I guess you can't keep the facade up for too long, never mind

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You wonder why theres riots and disorder in this country,we really do live in a time of have and have nots.Im not saying whats right and wrong but when youve got thieving politicians and bankers getting away with things,the tabloid press and murdoch. Then everyone labels these young people as 'scum' why do we not call the wealthy thieves .You get 6 months for stealing water and the same for stealing thousands,is this ok do you think.F*cking cameron talks about society,what would he know !
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Skull wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
The sad fact is that the bulk/hardcore/ring leaders in the riots may well have been "ghetto" kids and gang members who have little education (though there were some glaring exceptions, qualified people) but if they wont go to school, and the parent (sometimes parents) wont send them how do you educate them?


Tell me something, do you see yourself as a man of conviction who is prepared to stand up for what he believes in?

On the other hand, are you just a coward, and a back stabbing little worm?

How do you see yourself?


Two simple questions, neither of which I am accusing you of being? :-|


how do i see myself?

im ok, thanks for asking

but some things i DONT swallow after being around the block a few times

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You wonder why theres riots and disorder in this country,we really do live in a time of have and have nots.Im not saying whats right and wrong but when youve got thieving politicians and bankers getting away with things,the tabloid press and murdoch. Then everyone labels these young people as 'scum' why do we not call the wealthy thieves .You get 6 months for stealing water and the same for stealing thousands,is this ok do you think.F*cking cameron talks about society,what would he know !


We have created a society of greed and materiel requirments and people not prepared to work to achieve what they want but expecting it on a plate, and with goods, not to save for them but to go into debt, when I get sales calls I have a very simple answer "look mate, im 56, if i aint got it i dont want it, i dont need it and i doubt i can afford it, i have no HP, no debt, no kids at home and youd be better off ringing someone else"

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wannabeeahack wrote:
Skull wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
The sad fact is that the bulk/hardcore/ring leaders in the riots may well have been "ghetto" kids and gang members who have little education (though there were some glaring exceptions, qualified people) but if they wont go to school, and the parent (sometimes parents) wont send them how do you educate them?


Tell me something, do you see yourself as a man of conviction who is prepared to stand up for what he believes in?

On the other hand, are you just a coward, and a back stabbing little worm?

How do you see yourself?


Two simple questions, neither of which I am accusing you of being? :-|


how do i see myself?

im ok, thanks for asking

but some things i DONT swallow after being around the block a few times


And here's me thinking that, someone with such strong views as yourself, you would have been happy to give us an answer.
:shock:

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blackpool wrote:
You wonder why theres riots and disorder in this country,we really do live in a time of have and have nots.Im not saying whats right and wrong but when youve got thieving politicians and bankers getting away with things,the tabloid press and murdoch. Then everyone labels these young people as 'scum' why do we not call the wealthy thieves .You get 6 months for stealing water and the same for stealing thousands,is this ok do you think.F*cking cameron talks about society,what would he know !


We have created a society of greed and materiel requirments and people not prepared to work to achieve what they want but expecting it on a plate, and with goods, not to save for them but to go into debt, when I get sales calls I have a very simple answer "look mate, im 56, if i aint got it i dont want it, i dont need it and i doubt i can afford it, i have no HP, no debt, no kids at home and youd be better off ringing someone else"
I usually tell them.... that I have gone into hospital and I am not expected out..... and they still ringup the next day.... and I totally agree with the rest of your post.

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I normally just tell them to go [edited by admin] themselves :oops:

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I normally just tell them to go [edited by admin] themselves


Thats nice, no wonder theres riots and disorder with language like that ! :roll:
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Skull wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Skull wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
The sad fact is that the bulk/hardcore/ring leaders in the riots may well have been "ghetto" kids and gang members who have little education (though there were some glaring exceptions, qualified people) but if they wont go to school, and the parent (sometimes parents) wont send them how do you educate them?


Tell me something, do you see yourself as a man of conviction who is prepared to stand up for what he believes in?

On the other hand, are you just a coward, and a back stabbing little worm?

How do you see yourself?


Two simple questions, neither of which I am accusing you of being? :-|


how do i see myself?

im ok, thanks for asking

but some things i DONT swallow after being around the block a few times


And here's me thinking that, someone with such strong views as yourself, you would have been happy to give us an answer.
:shock:

:lol:


i did, it just wasnt the answer you wanted, and thereby lies a lesson.....

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wannabeeahack wrote:
Skull wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Skull wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
The sad fact is that the bulk/hardcore/ring leaders in the riots may well have been "ghetto" kids and gang members who have little education (though there were some glaring exceptions, qualified people) but if they wont go to school, and the parent (sometimes parents) wont send them how do you educate them?


Tell me something, do you see yourself as a man of conviction who is prepared to stand up for what he believes in?

On the other hand, are you just a coward, and a back stabbing little worm?

How do you see yourself?


Two simple questions, neither of which I am accusing you of being? :-|


how do i see myself?

im ok, thanks for asking

but some things i DONT swallow after being around the block a few times


And here's me thinking that, someone with such strong views as yourself, you would have been happy to give us an answer.
:shock:

:lol:


i did, it just wasnt the answer you wanted, and thereby lies a lesson.....


I think we all know the real answer. :)
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skull, you only think you know, which is different from actually knowing, but it will do for now

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