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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:51 pm 
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This is how it works

You can own your own cab, but only in a dereg area if you are prepared to stump up a lot of money in start up costs.

In other area's nobody stops anyone getting a PH plate, so this hard done by thing doesn't really wash, if you want to be an OD you can in one shape or form anyway.

An owner is subject to the costs, typical saloon ones are

£70 pw car loan
£30 pw Insurance
£20 pw repairs
£130 pw radio charges

A grand total before tax of £250pw, these are conservative figures btw, other fomula's would see this increase to £350 pw for a WAV owner who doesn't have a lot of NCB

So, how much is a fair amount for a driver to pay to be able to have the right to walk off at any time uncommitted ?

How much would you want to let someone who might wreck your car and insurance policy ?

This whole issue to me is like the pub smoking ban, beforehand there were loads of folk who were now going to go to the pub now it's smoke free, well! where are you, pubs are shutting by the minute, you said you'd replace the smoker and you've lied, you had no desire to go to the pub because pub ppl go to the pub and others simply don't, so the meddlers have now cost jobs,taxation,society and a way of life, nice work eh.

As an older man I've watched the changes, I watch new rules being brought in and most of the time they ruin things, who really wants or needs to be interrogated so they can buy a drink in a bar when the steward can see they are over 18, playing around with things that just worked anyway to justify a job title, my city has been ruined by one police officer, he knew that making everyone drink in the same place week in week out was a good idea and he pushed it through, what has no happened is there is no escape from trouble and lots more of it, the feral have taken over and nice folk don't bother anymore, where is he now, keeping quiet in a corner out of the way, and his real motive was because he didn't fancy doing what police officers are employed to do, wanted it nice and easy and thought it would be nice to stroll round the corner and arrest whoever the doormen had already restrained for him, then go back to stuffing a kebab down his throat in peace and quiet, he was told by taxi driver,traders and licensees that it was flawed and had failed elsewhere it had been deployed, but oh no he knew best, after all he was the law.

Bottom line is, quality should always come before quantity, quantity always means surplus and surplus means lack of quality, quite a simple equation really, but still even in the deepest of deep recessions some are still playing the human rights bill to try and get in on the cheap, I want to exit the cab game myself, it's ruined, I fancy some HGV 1 but it's going to cost me £2500 to get the licenses, is anyone going to listen to me when I bang the door and say hey gimme training and a license for free, no they aren't, I'm going to have to stump up and gamble I can pass the test and then I will have to go drive for someone that doesn't pay that well to get experience, there's no brand new Volvo tractor waiting for me, no employer saying to me here have this one because it's not right you have to start at the bottom and work your way up, and right now anyone who wants a HC plate even for free is some sort of mug, to have to invest in a car and all the other stuff that goes with it to see one £4 job per hour, you gotta be mad, I know the best days are behind me now, the face of taxing has been beaten to a pulp by bad management, unsuitable entry and general lack of care for anything other than themselves, the first step on the road to recovery is one man one plate, that is one issue I will agree with with Skull, this owning more licenses than you can physically drive yourself has to stop, and here that problem is a PH problem with 600 cars owned by 7 people.


What a complete load of [edited by admin]* :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: You know. It's actually hard to believe that you believe, what you have written. How did you come up with the above? It's absolute nonsense but it does show the intellectual level of your average cabby. #-o




Let me show you how smart I really am James, if I switch into Skull mode my retort would be something like........ and there was I thinking that crack was only available in Glasgow.

But as it's me mode and not you, I will retort with if that if my reply was too hard to digest for you you shouldn't hold a fishing license let alone a hackney carriage one because a road sign is going to totally confuse you, get real man my reply was spot on, you don't want any justice or equality for all, your crusade is motivated purely on either ruining something for those that have bought in, or if you are as stupid as I think you are right now you think if you can get the door open it's going to crank up your own cash cow, well! look at it this way, if you can get one, I can get ten, how long before I shut you out in the cold and watch you starve and you then go the way of the corner shop all the while assuming my rightful mantle as the master of the road, the baron of the bitumen etc.

Take a tip, put the tinny down and read slowly, that way you might understand that all this time smashing the councils ear in has been wasted, it shows who you are by the way you've picked your ball up and left the trade, oh how they must be rejoicing up there now eh \:D/



@ Ali, you might be able to, but your cab would've been unlicensable here now, and there is one whose just had to...not wanted to...had to get rid of a TX that had more filler than metal in it, my figures are a realistic look at what an owner on a radio circuit has to pay out each week, if anyone think he can then afford to let a driver use it for say £100 pw then they need to get to the economics school and also the risk vs reward one, and also Ali, once you've managed to flood the city with hacks, you are going to need a radio yourself, but I know, you'll move on and do something else when that time comes won't you, and without revisiting old wounds if I was in your city and I saw you sat there in front of a 2008 WAV I'm afraid I would walk past you and get in the one behind, a cab isn't cheap and nor is my life, so there is no way I would ride in a 12 year old bucket that was made by the same company that made the Trottermobile :lol:


It perhaps should be considered that part of the inspection process is to have a customer satisfaction test, this would entail the car being sat in and driven over normal streets with a decibel reader, so anything that shakes people up harshly or rattles like a set of cymbals fails, and rips in the seats and trims gets considered also, there should also be a driver satisfaction test where a customer is held upside down and shaken, if no or very little money falls from their pockets, you don't have to take them :badgrin:


For whose benefit are you writing the above? Have you been taking lessons from Dougie? #-o It seems to be a cross between a mindless ramble, of what you believe and what everyone else should accept, simply because you said it.

It's like one of Dougie's letters to Kenny MacAskill.

Incidentally, try using sentences that don't go on for ever. #-o


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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:12 am 
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For whose benefit are you writing the above? Have you been taking lessons from Dougie? #-o It seems to be a cross between a mindless ramble, of what you believe and what everyone else should accept, simply because you said it.

It's like one of Dougie's letters to Kenny MacAskill.

Incidentally, try using sentences that don't go on for ever. #-o

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Lets have a look at the strength of our man

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Throw out a comparison deflect reply

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Enhance suspicion I'm using two names here, I'm not and Alex will confirm for you if need be.

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More deflect, this time in the latest internet supremacy proof reply, if someone isn't grammar rich they must be thick eh?


DOOM reply to all of that

Right now I see you as an eaten up bitter and twisted individual, one whose looking for some more free advantages whatever it may cost others.

One who sits alone or in a group of similar minded individuals, stewing on how unfair everyone is towards you, basically a baby in a man's body, maybe.

One who won't or can't take no for an answer, one who likes to be seen as a peoples champion who is crusading his way through the fleets of big bad hackney owners.

Jim, get help for christ sake, the job can do this to you mate, right now I suspect you are in a phase of depression, a little bit of ADS and fuming at the deck the world has dealt you, have you a failing or failed marriage?


Let me make this easy on you, imagine I'm moving up to Scotland, I don't have a lot of money and I don't have anywhere to stay, so I decide to knock your door and come stay with you for a few years or maybe forever, while you are out I might notice there are sale-able items of yours laying around, so I go down the shops and blag your PC,HiFi and cd collection, and then I leave never to be seen again until I'm in Scotland again and homeless, where I then think to myself, I know I'll pop round Jims again and mug him off.

Now if you can't read the story there I'll explain it, I have no right to expect you to house me, but I would insist because it's now my right to get anything I want on demand, once I've had what I want and wreck your life I move on, then when I fancy doing it all over again I will.

That is exactly what you are trying to do, and the worst of it is you weasel in the sob story about all the millions that want to be a cabby and not being able to because the big bad owners won't let them ruin their livelihoods, how much evidence do you need, you can ask 75% of the country if your idea works or not, and the one answer you will get time and again is NO.


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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:22 am 
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Brilliant Doom, absolutely brilliant !. ( Ah' dinnae' get the "James" part tho"). Anyway, "Brilliant".


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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:53 am 
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Fairplay wrote:
Brilliant Doom, absolutely brilliant !. ( Ah' dinnae' get the "James" part tho"). Anyway, "Brilliant".


Aye brilliant Doom, it made at least some sense to Fairplay, and that's got to be a step in the right direction. :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Whoever next, Dougie Smith? :lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:04 am 
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Never mind Gary..... it's better to be on here moaning..... at least people can just turn you off. :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:10 am 
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You sold your Plates for tens of thousands Skull, didn't you ?. Do you think that will ever be forgotten ?. You have, and never will have, credibility.


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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:33 am 
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Private Reggie wrote:
ALI T wrote:
same standard as yours,only not so anal.

everyone wants the tx1 Dougie,an awful lot of guys have got back to them because there better than whats available new,shiny new seats doesn't do it for me,reliability and costs is what its about

my motor just past its test Dougie all it needed was door switches and emissions tuned as i had turned the pump up and forgotten to turn it down.
despite the paintwork being far from perfect,they explained that because of the amount of work done on the motor that they would let it go,mechanically it was perfect,test work costs under £300 and £280 of that was 4 new tyres.
how much did you spend Dougie and how big was your fail sheet.
i heard your repairs this year exceeded £5k are you sure you know what your doing.

anyway wheres the document
if you want us to debate at least let us have site of what we are debating on,you never know i may agree with some of it :roll:

£700 and sniff passed first time for the 7th year in a row, my cab is an 03, 267,000 miles on the clock , single shifted, bought brand new, not the youngest but not the oldest either, yours are a R reg and a T :lol: :lol: :lol: But your right Ali it still passed it's test :roll: :roll:

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-moto ... e/86060966

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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:35 am 
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You sold your Plates for tens of thousands Skull, didn't you ?. Do you think that will ever be forgotten ?. You have, and never will have, credibility.


I don't know how to tell you this John, but licence plates can't be bought and sold. #-o If you buy or sell anything, it's a job. #-o


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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:25 am 
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Plate/Operators License, call it what you want Skull (And you do when it suits you). You sold 2 of them for TENS OF THOUSANDS OF POUNDS. You were a "Charlaton". What have you got to show for it ?. Nowt !. You bit the hand that fed you one time to many, and you were emptied !. You jumped before you were pushed, that's all. All you have now is this Forum where people mock you.


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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:50 am 
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Fairplay wrote:
Plate/Operators License, call it what you want Skull (And you do when it suits you). You sold 2 of them for TENS OF THOUSANDS OF POUNDS. You were a "Charlaton". What have you got to show for it ?. Nowt !. You bit the hand that fed you one time to many, and you were emptied !. You jumped before you were pushed, that's all. All you have now is this Forum where people mock you.


John, I can tell you are little upset but there comes a point where mocking people like you and Dougie, is a necessary evil. I see it as my public duty, a warning of sorts to anyone, thinking of becoming a taxi driver. It's a bit like stopping someone from sticking needles in their eyes or perhaps, habitually squeezing their own testicles. It's a dirty job ... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:24 am 
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Private Reggie wrote:
ALI T wrote:
same standard as yours,only not so anal.

everyone wants the tx1 Dougie,an awful lot of guys have got back to them because there better than whats available new,shiny new seats doesn't do it for me,reliability and costs is what its about

my motor just past its test Dougie all it needed was door switches and emissions tuned as i had turned the pump up and forgotten to turn it down.
despite the paintwork being far from perfect,they explained that because of the amount of work done on the motor that they would let it go,mechanically it was perfect,test work costs under £300 and £280 of that was 4 new tyres.
how much did you spend Dougie and how big was your fail sheet.
i heard your repairs this year exceeded £5k are you sure you know what your doing.

anyway wheres the document
if you want us to debate at least let us have site of what we are debating on,you never know i may agree with some of it :roll:

£700 and sniff passed first time for the 7th year in a row, my cab is an 03, 267,000 miles on the clock , single shifted, bought brand new, not the youngest but not the oldest either, yours are a R reg and a T :lol: :lol: :lol: But your right Ali it still passed it's test :roll: :roll:


so you paid more than double what i did
and your motors 5 years younger than mine

wow sniff sniff :oops:

all in all this year ive spent £800 odd and ive replaced almost the whole motor.

how about you

£5k is what i heard


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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:17 am 
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so you paid more than double what i did and your motors 5 years younger than mine

Reggies response: I pay professionals to maintain my cab, wouldn't do it myself even if i had the knowledge :wink:

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£5k is what i heard


£700 :D I'm down at the Davey's today, Taxi in for a service, i will let them know that you are insuating they are either ripping me off or that they don't know how to maintain my cab :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
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so you paid more than double what i did and your motors 5 years younger than mine

Reggies response: I pay professionals to maintain my cab, wouldn't do it myself even if i had the knowledge :wink:

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£5k is what i heard


£700 :D I'm down at the Davey's today, Taxi in for a service, i will let them know that you are insuating they are either ripping me off or that they don't know how to maintain my cab :wink:


no dougie your insinuating that the cab test is bent how else could a bucket pass the test
as for the davy's they offer excellent value and know there stuff,cant think why your bringing them into it

dougie you said on here that it was at £4.5k

as you know i use the davies all the time,when my motor breaks down.

seen your type in garages all the time dougie,not got a clue and the motors thier pride and joy,no expenses spared.

you rip yourself off
and your trying to infect the rest off us


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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
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dougie you said on here that it was at £4.5k

as you know i use the davies all the time,when my motor breaks down.

seen your type in garages all the time dougie,not got a clue and the motors thier pride and joy,no expenses spared.

you rip yourself off
and your trying to infect the rest off us[/quote]

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Phone the Davey's they will tell you my cab went straight through at a total cost including a new back seat for £700, you must be thinking of someone else, my Taxi is brilliantly maintained by the davey's and things like bulbs or small stuff i don't even pay for.

Wrong guy Wrong cab :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've gave you a get out clause :wink: An apology will be unexpected by welcome :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Chattel Slavery
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:25 am 
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im talking about your yearly budget dafty,not test work

if i can be bothered looking for it im sure you said £4.5k last year in maintenance.

btw dougie i happen to like the davy's their good guys why you feel the need to bring their business into this is beyond me.

you do realise that this could have an affect on their business adverse or otherwise,and you claim to be a pal [-X


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