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very well done to all of them now they will be able to earn more now there lives will change, i know when i passed it was the best day in my life i could hold up my head up for now on.

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C. Oakes


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yes you may be right bout, but as this what the trade as come downe to liking some one.or is it about supporting the trade when it is needed.

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C. Oakes


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So did I, but I couldn't make the meeting in London in the middle of September. The trade was well represented at that nigh on four hour meeting that apparently went very well by all reports.

As far as I know, the Law commission are doing the rounds - extensively. Their representatives are speaking to both PH and HC organisations, representative bodies etc up and down the country, usually in London, but sometimes travelling around the country too. Obviously these meeting are by prior appointment only.

I believe this will continue until about March next year, or just short of then. They want to gather as much evidence and opinion about the two trades as they can, before the next stage, which I believe will be the consultation paper.

If you represent a sizeable chunk of the trade Mr Charles007, then they may wish to talk to you too. Look up the relevant website for contact details.

But then again they may already be fully booked up.

You will need to hold an 18 inch piece of 2 x 2 wood with one end sharpened to a point though!!

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Charlie.... I will tell you the way I see it... the changes in the laws are already written... all that is happening now is what is required so that the changes cannot be challenged. it is called going through the motions, they have to hold consultations, to be legal. and a lot of people representing the trade actually think they are going to make a difference, their views will be listened to and taken on board..... just like they did with the OFT....

The battle will begin when their report is published...... do these people have what it takes to win, they didn't last time what has changed.....??

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

I agree Mr T, been looking at what was said at the meeting of minds
about.

Deregulation
While a desire to Limit (or re-limit) numbers of taxis was expressed, as was a desire to limit numbers of private hire vehicles, it was agreed amongst those present that the current Dft stance (and HOC)" What is HOC? would never go against total deregulation across the country, irrespective of future legislation changes.

now that does not sound good. i know whaqt my members will say. sounds like they have given up before they started.

thats were Mr Boaler is chair of NTTG, i wounder whether Eddie Gorman is the same Eddie Gorman who work for Bolton Licencing a few years back. George Simms Treasurer. and pat connor committee.

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Charlie use the PM function on here and send me a copy of the minutes..... please

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

If you take that view, then you appear to be in a boat and have already thrown away your paddles, while trying to navigate a white water rapid!!

As I have said before, not making strong representations, WITH VALID REASONS EXPLAINING THOSE POINTS OF VIEW, is not an option!!

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then what do you call this below then.

Deregulation
While a desire to Limit (or re-limit) numbers of taxis was expressed, as was a desire to limit numbers of private hire vehicles, it was agreed amongst those present that the current Dft stance (and HOC)" What is HOC? would never go against total deregulation across the country, irrespective of future legislation changes.

now that does not sound good. i know whaqt my members will say. sounds like they have given up before they started.

thats were Mr Boaler is chair of NTTG, i wounder whether Eddie Gorman is the same Eddie Gorman who work for Bolton Licencing a few years back. George Simms Treasurer. and pat connor committee.

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It's not if I take that view.... This is my view..... my view has dramatically changed from when it was simply the Transport Select Committee ..the Law Commission were asked to look at this many many many months ago.... and then they jumped in with both feet six hours after the Transport Select Committee gave its findings and said there was no need for them.... I would say my view has definitely changed..... and I know when I'm about to be shafted... been there before..... the People in charge of the National Union's / association's should be shouting from the rooftops... ringing all the warning bells.... and waking the trade up... but What do I hear... silence... silence... silence....

Now this is because I am totally wrong and they are right.... so I will make my own judgments... at least then if I make a mistake I can only blame myself....

Or is it in their interests.... they want change at all costs.... because in the new regime they will be in a position of power... and I don't mean driving a taxi....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

I totally agree with your view.

The problem as I see it is that when presenting such an opposite view to that which politicians, the DfT, the Law Commission and the like might hold, it is useless just stating such an opposite viewpoint without strong reasoning and evidence for your own convictions.

To demonstrate what I mean by that, just look at the TDO document, 'Myth and Reality'; a 70-page publication examining the issue of restricted taxi numbers.

Now I totally disagree with that document, because it does not take into account the basic economical model of 'Supply and Demand', or in the trade's case biased supply and demand, and therefore in my view 'Myth and Reality' is a flawed document.

And that's my view!!

But it is also my view that the author of that document went to great lengths [70 pages of length] to explain in comprehensive detail his [and perhaps others] points of view on the subject of restricted numbers.

And for that I have to begrudgingly admire and indeed congratulate the author, not for the contents of that publication which I have previously said I disagree with, but for his tenacity, determination and devotion in expressing his viewpoint so comprehensively in writing.

When have you ever seen a publication or document so meticulously drafted and lengthy as 'Myth and Reality' with opposing and contrary opinions, reasoning that restricted licence numbers is the preferred option for the trade?

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Despite all you have written above, is that a reason not to at least try to persuade and influence those that will be drafting reports and legislation?

If you don't try, you're damn sure to be unsuccessful!!!

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sorry about the spelling

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Getting used to it.

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I have to say i have not seen it but will look it up.

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!!!


I don't think... No I definitely haven't.. said people shouldn't express their views...or go to meetings.... what I am saying is don't rely on this to succeed..... because at the end of the day... if they come out with something the trade does not want, you must be prepared... and that is so so simple..

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!