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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:18 pm 
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I don't have a problem with delimitation... I have a problem with over supply


I don't think you even believe you wrote that. :lol:

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If you worked in a district that has never been limited... then the trade would have evolved in a totally different way.... it would be normal... but then they still should have a survey to evaluate the service provided to the public...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:23 pm 
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But clearly those doing the so-called over supply don't, else they wouldn't.

Translate to English please

Drivers putting on vehicles, that you are saying is causing the over supply, aren't complaining about it, else they wouldn't be doing it.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:28 pm 
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I don't have a problem with delimitation... I have a problem with over supply

But clearly those doing the so-called over supply don't, else they wouldn't.

Translate to English please


I think once people are in this trade, seen as a rosy number from the outside, realisation it not all its cracked up to be and escape difficult. A normal employment would have HR closing us down or the accountants sacking us for not showing a profit. As self employed so long as the Taxis running there is hope, our only supply valve is turned off when the bailiff arrives on the doorstep to take the Taxi and house...and invariably allowed to keep the Taxi to earn to pay the debts...invariably then the only real safety valve left is dropping dead from longer hours stress and exhaustion.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:30 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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But clearly those doing the so-called over supply don't, else they wouldn't.

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Drivers putting on vehicles, that you are saying is causing the over supply, aren't complaining about it, else they wouldn't be doing it.

You Really must pay attention.... the Law Commission itself stated..... that the private hire side of the trade had a huge turnover of drivers compared to the more professional hackney side of the trade... their words... not mine :shock:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:34 pm 
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I think once people are in this trade, seen as a rosy number from the outside, realisation it not all its cracked up to be and escape difficult. A normal employment would have HR closing us down or the accountants sacking us for not showing a profit. As self employed so long as the Taxis running there is hope, our only supply valve is turned off when the bailiff arrives on the doorstep to take the Taxi and house...and invariably allowed to keep the Taxi to earn to pay the debts...invariably then the only real safety valve left is dropping dead from longer hours stress and exhaustion.[/quote]



If you work in a proper job..... as they say... you're guaranteed a minimum wage by law... it's about time the same law applied to the self-employed.... after expenses...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:51 pm 
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You Really must pay attention.... the Law Commission itself stated..... that the private hire side of the trade had a huge turnover of drivers compared to the more professional hackney side of the trade... their words... not mine :shock:

And what difference does that make? :?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:16 pm 
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You Really must pay attention.... the Law Commission itself stated..... that the private hire side of the trade had a huge turnover of drivers compared to the more professional hackney side of the trade... their words... not mine :shock:

And what difference does that make? :?



Makes all the difference, they can see one outfit is a professional one and the other is anyone with two arms welcome, bums in seats Suss, bums in seats, thats why our insurance is rocketting, smashit and revit aren't doing us any good on the risk scale two wheeling the next sheet low paying fare about.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:53 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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But clearly those doing the so-called over supply don't, else they wouldn't.

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Drivers putting on vehicles, that you are saying is causing the over supply, aren't complaining about it, else they wouldn't be doing it.


They may not be complaining where you are but they are certainly complaining where I am and probably lots of other places too. Before you suggest they leave please ensure you have a realistic alternative for them to leave to

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:29 am 
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Makes all the difference, they can see one outfit is a professional one and the other is anyone with two arms welcome, bums in seats Suss, bums in seats, thats why our insurance is rocketting, smashit and revit aren't doing us any good on the risk scale two wheeling the next sheet low paying fare about.

And what on earth has that got to do with the difference it will make to the Law Commissions and any subsequent law change?

Especially in areas where part timers generally drive hackneys owned by other people.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:35 am 
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Sussex wrote:
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Makes all the difference, they can see one outfit is a professional one and the other is anyone with two arms welcome, bums in seats Suss, bums in seats, thats why our insurance is rocketting, smashit and revit aren't doing us any good on the risk scale two wheeling the next sheet low paying fare about.

And what on earth has that got to do with the difference it will make to the Law Commissions and any subsequent law change?

Especially in areas where part timers generally drive hackneys owned by other people.


Indeed Doom's generalising a bit too much here. I'd bet the PH trade in the likes of Brighton is far superior - as regards the criteria he employs - than the HC trades in other locations.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:22 am 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
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Makes all the difference, they can see one outfit is a professional one and the other is anyone with two arms welcome, bums in seats Suss, bums in seats, thats why our insurance is rocketting, smashit and revit aren't doing us any good on the risk scale two wheeling the next sheet low paying fare about.

And what on earth has that got to do with the difference it will make to the Law Commissions and any subsequent law change?

Especially in areas where part timers generally drive hackneys owned by other people.


Indeed Doom's generalising a bit too much here. I'd bet the PH trade in the likes of Brighton is far superior - as regards the criteria he employs - than the HC trades in other locations.

I did not know he employed his drivers... that makes all the difference


Sorry.... I did not have my glasses on...... I though you had written the cretins he employs :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:29 am 
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Sussex wrote:
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You Really must pay attention.... the Law Commission itself stated..... that the private hire side of the trade had a huge turnover of drivers compared to the more professional hackney side of the trade... their words... not mine :shock:

And what difference does that make? :?

now let me see.... what is one of the main political topics at the moment.... about the gap between the rich and poor..... and how that gap needs to be reversed..... because certain companies have no scruples....... and drivers' working on radio systems for less than the minimum-wage could well come into that category...... when you open Pandora's box you never know what you will find.. :shock:

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MR T wrote:
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MR T wrote:
You Really must pay attention.... the Law Commission itself stated..... that the private hire side of the trade had a huge turnover of drivers compared to the more professional hackney side of the trade... their words... not mine :shock:

And what difference does that make? :?

now let me see.... what is one main political topics at the moment.... about the gap between the rich and poor..... and how that gap needs to be reversed..... because certain companies and no scruples....... and drivers' working on radio systems for less than the minimum-wage could well come into that category...... when you open Pandora's box you never know what you will find.. :shock:



Why do you think PH Operators seem to be now backing the two tier system?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:30 am 
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Sussex wrote:
MR T wrote:
You Really must pay attention.... the Law Commission itself stated..... that the private hire side of the trade had a huge turnover of drivers compared to the more professional hackney side of the trade... their words... not mine :shock:

And what difference does that make? :?

now let me see.... what is one of the main political topics at the moment.... about the gap between the rich and poor..... and how that gap needs to be reversed..... because certain companies have no scruples....... and drivers' working on radio systems for less than the minimum-wage could well come into that category...... when you open Pandora's box you never know what you will find.. :shock:



Amen to that T.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:55 am 
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Why do you think PH Operators seem to be now backing the two tier system?

To keep PH drivers and owners PH drivers and owners.

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