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So ladies and gentleman, lets play spot the full-time working taxi/PH driver.

I don't know much about Mr Carty of the RMT, so I will be generous and say he is the only one.

Paul Brent Chairman, National Taxi Association
Bob Oddy General Secretary, Licensed Taxi Drivers Association
Patrick Connor National Taxi Trades Group
Tommy McIntyre National Taxi Representative, Unite the Union
Mick Carty, RMT
Bryan Roland General Secretary, National Private Hire Association
Steve Wright MBE Chairman, Licensed Private Hire Car Association
Patrick Raeburn, Private Hire Board
Mick Hildreth Secretary, GMB Professional Drivers National Organising Committee
Bill Bowling Legislation officer, National Limousine and Chauffeur Association
Geoffrey Riesel Chairman, Radio Taxis Group – representing radio circuit operators
Julian Francis Government Affairs Manager, London Taxi Company
Donald Pow General manager, Allied Vehicles
Deborah Hunter Sales and marketing executive, Digitax Electronics UK Ltd.

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Maybe some couldn't get a word in edgeways and maybe thats why 31 people were there?

Invite 31 people of differing views, step back and watch.....its like lighting the blue touch paper.

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The most striking thing about this Law Commission document is that they can't even get the F*KCING TITLE RIGHT!!!!

FFS!!!

They can't even get the first line right!!!

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But the two industries only exist because of two-tier regulation.



Nonsense. What it might mean is a bit more street work in areas currently ill-served by taxis.

That might be slightly detrimental to Mr Wright's private hire operators' vested interests, but to say they would collapse is a gross exaggeration.



So is he saying that taxis don't do pre-booked work? Probably most taxis in most locations do most of their work via booking systems.

Good economic point about fares though, one I made to the OFT about a decade ago but which they said in their report they could find no evidence for.



Yet again the 'taxis can't be pre-booked' fallacy.



I thought it was restricted taxi numbers that did that.



Amazing that Mr Roland never mentions bogus self-employment in the trades.

And how precisely do taxi circuits and proprietors control their self-employed drivers?



Maybe there's no hailing in the suburbs because there's no taxis?

And even if suburban taxi drivers did few street jobs they'd still be willing to pay fees to secure suburban pre-booked work, I suspect.



At last, a sensible point.



Seems to be contracting himself there - one-tier works elsewhere, but wouldn't work here. Of course, such radical change would affect existing business structures and would be difficult, but to say it's impossible is just plain wrong. Usual vested interest argument.



Is that because they're not allowed to rank and ply? Except of course when they bend the rules a bit, particularly late at night in city centres, which is where they tend to work at such times.



Taxis "an emanation of the state"?

In fact perhaps it's the two-tier system that's the emanation of the state, thus maybe he's getting his restricted hackney carriages before his horse, sort of thing.



Why?

Perhaps the NTA's Mr Casey could have helped out with a lot of these issues, because doesn't Carlise work an effective single-tier system?

On the other hand, perhaps that would be a bit too off-message

In fact did the NTA's man manage to get a word in at all, or perhaps he thought a diplomatic silence was the best course of action?

Looks like everyone except you and Mr Button has it all wrong then? so many misguided folks in this world all in one place eh?

If you read yourself Dusty you sound like a kid who can't have his own way.

I think this about proves my point that you either don't know a lot about much or you have a hidden agenda which stands to net you easy money.

I know i'll get some reply from you, but you may not get an answer to it, I'm still gone but I thought I owed it to the trade to highlight that you've had a pin stuck in your balloon with this yet you are still trying to justify that you and Mr Button are correct and everyone else is wrong, I won't bother highlighting it but at least 3 of your quotes have major flaws, starting with the fact you think someone in a one horse town is going to drive around it all day and night incase a flagger may need a cab once every three years.

Let it go, you've spent umpteen years trying to convince all and sundry and all and sundry can see through you, while the site is a good pocket of information, it's always been seen by me as the poor PH guy needing to tell the world how harsh those nasty Hack drivers are to them when the real story is PH wants to become the Hack and subdue it to death, anyone with a brain cell can see this fact as well, hence why all bar one person at that meeting agrees with me and the majority and not you and Mr Button, who incidently looks like the perfect wife material for you.

Have a nice day.

And you and all the other so-called representative bodies there sound like vested interest groups, pure and simple.

And if I "sound like a kid who can't have his own way", what does that make you



At what point did you make that point up?

As for the rest of your juvenile-level attacks I'll do you a favour and ignore them, but let's hope no one in a position of authority is reading your stuff beause you don't do your vested interests any favours.

Great reply Dusty, lets hope they are looking, because if they are they will be seeing right through you and your motives right now.

Nice reply btw, looks just like a woman scorned to me.

p.s I'm not a representive body, I'm a concerned real cabby that doesn't want your stupid idea's ending up becoming law, it's hard enough to survive now let alone once your free for all plan comes into focus, you tell constant lies about yourself and your position in things as well, even cyclops could see that you aren't a cabby that is dependent of the job for income, I see you as a stock market player myself, and we all know what a mess those clever people have made of the world don't we.

There are two types of folks in this world, those that try to get by realising their life is a short one and they can't take it with them, and power dominators that have to have every last penny regardless of who it hurts, coffin dodgers like Ecclestone who've ruined what was one of the best sporting events and turned it into a dull mobile corporate advert board.

Yes, like you have no interest at all in the status quo.

I mean, as Mr T implied last night, you've probably completely forgotten that your plate is worth £30k.



Well you would know, I mean you're the big man who does big man things like playing sports and going down the pub etc.

By the way Doom, my involvement in the LC's project is unlikely to go much beyond contributions to this forum, and I doubt if they'll bother with a bunch of people shouting and swearing at each other on here.

And unlike yourself the results of it won't make any difference to me anyway, since there are effectively no PH here, and anyone who wants a taxi drivers' job can have one, despite restricted numbers.

So even if it was delimited here all it would mean was that drivers could choose to run their own motor, thus wouldn't affect me in the slightest.

Except that my plate would be worth jack rather than a couple of grand, but since I've effectively wasted several times that running half decent motors rather than the insurance write-offs favoured by many local proprietors then in the grand scheme of things it's not a lot of money.

I don't care what the plate is worth, it's like a house it's not worth anything unless you are selling and not buying back in.

What does my sporting habit have to do with cabbing? I used a man as an example, and how his idea's had ruined what was a great sport, modern day gladiator arena turned into mobile American Football complete with all the padding they wear.

You have no real answer, so why bother, the LC meeting has shown that the trade isn't as bad as you'd like to show it, people you thought were going to open doors and salute you haven't, and that is stuck right in your throat right now.

Now stop acting like a punter who expects the cab to be at the door as he puts the phone down will you.

If you're as old as you make out, why should any of this bother you anyway, you make out you are 55+ so surely you should have better things to do than sit here all day proclaiming yourself.

Yes, and you're clearly a plate baron rather than the downtrodden owner-driver that you try to portray yourself as

Sure you're not the Bournemouth prop who's desperate to maintain that supply of cheap labour to ensure they don't have to drive the thing themselves?

Not a clue what you're on about, but it was you who was blabbering on about playing sports the other night. Oh but wait, you were hammered, so perhaps you've forgotten.



You mean the trades are full of vested interests, demonstrably on show at the LC's meeting.



Thought you worked the streets?

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More nonsense.

Not sure how you came up with my age, but perhaps it futher demonstrates that basic arithmetic isn't your strong point?

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I lease one council owned franchised plate, I don't have and never have had a driver, I own the right to trade with the said plate and I DO want baron's pushed out altogther as they are costing me a living, I'm not from Bournemouth either, it you want to know where I am ask Toot's if she'll talk to you that is, I portray myself as I am, and I'm also willing to take any pepsi challege you care to mention, I am what the trade wants and needs, I'm good with customers and people alike, I always put newish good quality cars on something that the LO always congratulates me on and the way I keep the said vehicle as well, the last time I bought a car that cost less than the £10k area was in 1995, I generally run top spec cars that cost more than lower spec ones as I look at the vehicle as both my work and pleasure vehicle, although I will agree there are some right sheds about, but that's what happens when you license people who only see the punter as the cow in the morning, a simple LO rejection ruling would sort this out, and I'm all in favour of no vehicle being any older than 2 years old at first license, this will keep the penny pinchers out and ensure the public has a good experience overall, and btw, most of those sheds are PH sheds, baron lets anyone drive it, driver smashes it, baron repairs it cheap, I got in one and it felt like it had an oval wheel on it and the whole front end jigged from side to side, great advert eh.