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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 5:27 am 
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So in a nutshell what they want to do is:

PHVs and PH drivers: Reduce the whole country to the lowest common denominator quality regulation currently in place.

Taxis and taxi drivers: Leave the current mishmash of standards largely unchanged, as long as they at least conform to the lowest common denominator PH standard.

Marvellous.


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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:43 am 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
So in a nutshell what they want to do is:

PHVs: Reduce the whole country to the lowest common denominator quality regulation currently in place.

Taxis: Leave the current mishmash of standards largely unchanged, as long as they at least conform to the lowest common denominator PHV standard.

Marvellous.



It was always about simplifying things :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 3:39 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 4:51 pm 
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Nice colour Skippy.
Which LA says Pink - or with the contract exemption in the balance are you thinking of joining "Pink Ladies"?

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:07 pm 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
PHVs: Reduce the whole country to the lowest common denominator quality regulation currently in place.

Not sure they say that, just that any PH standards will be universal.

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:14 pm 
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I think a far better move would be for Vosa to set and regulate taxi testing and open it up to any MOT station wanting to do taxi testing with clearly defined standards for appearance and quality alongside mechanical soundness

That could make the "market" for taxi testing more competitive and hopefully make it a level playing field

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:35 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Dusty Bin wrote:
PHVs: Reduce the whole country to the lowest common denominator quality regulation currently in place.

Not sure they say that, just that any PH standards will be universal.


It's basic 'fit and proper' as far as I can see - CRB and a medical.

They make the point that as a consequence taxi standards will never be below PH standards in another area, so no need for a Berwick.

There would be no point getting a taxi licence in an easy area and using it in Brighton (say) to get round tough PH standards, because there wouldn't be tough PH standards, just the basic fit and proper.


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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:14 pm 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Dusty Bin wrote:
PHVs: Reduce the whole country to the lowest common denominator quality regulation currently in place.

Not sure they say that, just that any PH standards will be universal.


It's basic 'fit and proper' as far as I can see - CRB and a medical.

For drivers yes, when you said quality controls I assumed vehicles.

As far as I can see there isn't a lack of suitable drivers willing to join the 'ranks' of the PH trade, the problem seems to be retention.

Will allowing next to no standards improve things? I very much doubt it. :sad:

Is it asking too much for new entrants to be able to converse in English, to be able to know where the f*** they are going (without sat nav) and to be able to drive in a professional manner?

According to the Law Commission, it is. :sad:

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:23 pm 
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Indeed, and I was talking about quality control generally - ie vehicles and drivers - rather than specifically.

So it seems they'll still allow knowledge tests for taxis, driving tests for taxis, age rules for taxis, colour codes for taxis etc etc.

But just the basics for PH.

Indeed if you look back at the press release and our PM exchange the other night then that was precisely what I was getting at.

Actually reading the documents just confirms that. :-|


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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:40 pm 
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This has been interpreted by the courts to mean that, in England and Wales (outside
London), leisure use is not allowed, creating the concept of “once a taxi, always a
taxi”.7 This means that family members, for example, cannot in theory drive the
vehicle unless they hold a hackney carriage licence. It also means that anyone
wanting to work in the hackney trade has to buy a vehicle dedicated to the job rather
than using their existing car.
3.10 Transport for London, however, takes the view that London taxis and private hire
vehicles can be driven by unlicensed drivers.8

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:48 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
As far as I can see there isn't a lack of suitable drivers willing to join the 'ranks' of the PH trade, the problem seems to be retention.

Will allowing next to no standards improve things? I very much doubt it. :sad:

Is it asking too much for new entrants to be able to converse in English, to be able to know where the f*** they are going (without sat nav) and to be able to drive in a professional manner?

On top of the above a driver need to have a reasonable level of literacy, as they will need to be able to read a map or customer directions, as the LC are proposing to bin off the PH knowledge. :sad:

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:15 am 
Well, in prep for 2013 I've been out and bought my next cab

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:30 am 
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Law Commission wrote:
It also means that anyone wanting to work in the hackney trade has to buy a vehicle dedicated to the job rather than using their existing car.


Bollox.


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