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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:33 am 
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Shouldn't the paying public have the choice to sit as a person in a car rather than as a tool box in a van,

Possibly, but that's not the thrust of this debate. This is all about the costs of WAVs, and that now can be lower than a Mondeo.


Yes it can but only if the LA allow it and the LC aren't going to be making that decision

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:16 pm 
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Yes it can but only if the LA allow it and the LC aren't going to be making that decision

If the trade in restricted areas spent a little time on lobbying, for anything other than keeping taxi quotas, then they might be able to get councillors to realise that there is more than one issue the trade needs their help sorting.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:51 pm 
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If the trade in restricted areas spent a little time on lobbying, for anything other than keeping taxi quotas, then they might be able to get councillors to realise that there is more than one issue the trade needs their help sorting.

I can only speak from my own knowledge of course.

They do.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:02 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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Yes it can but only if the LA allow it and the LC aren't going to be making that decision

If the trade in restricted areas spent a little time on lobbying, for anything other than keeping taxi quotas, then they might be able to get councillors to realise that there is more than one issue the trade needs their help sorting.

You're deluding yourself if you think the Hackney Trade are continuously lobbying to keep numbers capped..... that is only a very small percentage of what trade reps do. in fact yourself and a couple of other members of TDO bring up the subject a 1000 times more per year..... we work with the council's to provide a first class hackney service... not a second-class private hire. come what may. any body can drive.. not accountable to the council.. dropping small packages.. subsidised by the state...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:47 pm 
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we work with the council's to provide a first class hackney service... not a second-class private hire.

It appears your second-class private hire service is a rare thing according to the Law Commission.

One wonder how thick the punters are in your manor for using such a poor PH service.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:50 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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we work with the council's to provide a first class hackney service... not a second-class private hire.

It appears your second-class private hire service is a rare thing according to the Law Commission.

One wonder how thick the punters are in your manor for using such a poor PH service.

I was referring to the future :D

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:53 pm 
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I was referring to the future :D

You could well be right. :sad:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:00 pm 
Sussex wrote:
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we work with the council's to provide a first class hackney service... not a second-class private hire.

It appears your second-class private hire service is a rare thing according to the Law Commission.

One wonder how thick the punters are in your manor for using such a poor PH service.



When there is one giant company and no competition against them then the public have no choice but to use them,

MrT is correct at what he says, 75% of the local PH are immigrant or Asian, and even though the lefties won't like it, I constantly get ppl not wanting to ride with them, reasons being mainly

1 - No chat
2 - Overcharging (although I've not had a foreign driver do this to me, only some English woman who made me :shock: wanna slit my wrists)
3 - Not very knowledgable of routes


Sadly you don't really have a real world grasp on what most of the country is like, you have a fare scale that is fair rather than a bus beating one, generally folks are less chavvy, and your knowledge test does keep the slurry out (something I'm rather envious of tbh)


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Sadly you don't really have a real world grasp on what most of the country is like,

Well I do, and that makes me work even harder to ensure it doesn't happen in my manor.

Other than London & B&H, I wonder if the sh**iest PH standards can be found in restricted taxi areas. :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:58 am 
No I don't think that's anything to do with it as Brighton is restricted anyway,

And believe me you don't have a grasp, next time you do a job look how much you get for it (please post it if you would be so kind) here the PH get £2.80p for that job, and that has nothing to do with the council, it's a pure and simple case of abusing the driver by the company, I estimate they do 40% of the fare in fuel alone, and that's before the radio and rent part even comes into it, the reason they do it is because they mug the immigrant who knows no better, one baron lost 2 new cars and had 6 more left in the long term carpark at Heathrow recently, he got the 6 back with large charges attached but the other two went to a breakers in Romania, takes their passports off them now, more illegal methods, I lmfao when I heard, now if only 600 more would do the same thing all at the same time that would be justice for the migrant and a result for me.


Just had a look http://www.phtm.co.uk/_includes/docs/le ... RRClSi.pdf


You are 60p more than us on a 2 mile trip, we are £1.20 more than the PH, so for every 2 mile job you do you get £1.80 more than they do, imagine how uncompetitive that makes me, I'm already cheap and someone else is cutting me by 25%


Time has come where this undercutting has to stop Skippysyndrome, a car runs on a cost pm basis so a proper profit has to be in order.


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Sussex wrote:
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Sadly you don't really have a real world grasp on what most of the country is like,

Well I do, and that makes me work even harder to ensure it doesn't happen in my manor.

Other than London & B&H, I wonder if the sh**iest PH standards can be found in restricted taxi areas. :roll: :roll:


Well it would certainly be interesting to do some kind of comparative study, but what's certainly true is that quality control regarding PH will be higher in some areas than that applying to HC in others.

Which in turn means that crude comparisons alluding that HC are always subject to higher quality controls than PH aren't always correct, at least on a national basis.

By the same token, related issues such as driver turnover is no doubt higher as regards HC in some areas as compared to PH in others.


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