Taxi Driver Online

I have to disagree.
The average car driver does 10-12k miles a year.
How many miles does the average taxi/PH driver do? Around here it's about 40k with some quite a bit more than that.
That is 4x the risk, regardless of any other factors.

BTW, I seriously doubt the insurance industry would accept your assessment of risk

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And your basing your whole theory of road safety on something as flimsy and as Typical as a "this Guy told me Himself " story, Un-fechin-believable..Wow, that really takes away any tiny bit of credibility from your argument.

Also, Im not Ducking any question, I have nothing to answer too, you Have no Idea at all as to whether My hours are shorter or longer than what your used to working.

So unless you can say unequivocably that my hours are longer than safety permits you would be better advised to say nowt..

In short, your fast becoming a pompous and arrogant ass, no wonder you have rattled so many innocent cages over the years in here, Its the usual Jasbars always right in Jasbars closed circuit mind.

Now go forth and make yourself useful....infact..just go.

That's another argument, that's more about Increased risk of accident through percentages and nothing to do with long driving hours. if you drove 133 miles per day for 300 days of the year you would soon clock up 40,000 miles in a year. and those 133 miles would take little more 3 or 3.5 hours a day, It has no bearing on long drivers hours and sales reps do such milages daily, do we tacho them as well.? and its partly that extra milage makes your insurance premiums what they are.

As for Insurers , well they always over estimate your risk and then over charge accordingly.

Wait a minute. I don't have to know what hours you work. I merely pointed out that you are coy at answering, and still are. You work safely, then tell us you do. All I'm saying is that your fear of Tachos is because you clearly don 't work safely. And this allows us all to understand that you are the problem, the very reason why Tachos may be introduced.

Like Swannee, you seem to think that insults help win your argument. That's as fine with me as it is to convince us your argument is sound. Jasbar doesn't have to be right. But I do have a right to express my concerns. And I've been proved right in the past. In fact most of what the Skull and Jasbar has predicted has been shown to be true.

And, how can it be flimsy when you're hearing from the horse's mouth the circumstances of the job? he had no reason to lie. It was a general conversation with another colleague. He couldn't know the circumstances which led to the revelation.

The simple fact is that the introduction of Tachos would simply become another of the quality controls we have long argued for. And if some drivers can't make the job pay, then two things could happen. First the tariff would be increased to a level for the service to survive. Just as prices increased in road haulage. Second, those who couldn't make it pay would leave, market forces would decide the manpower level. As drivers left the trade the available work would be shared by the rest until a new equilibrium was reached.

And that's what concerns you BK. You're wedded to the need to work long unsafe hours to make your living. And you don't want that to change.

But the safety of the public demands that you do change.

You're in for a big shock.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

So Jasbar....you think Insults are a sign of Ignorance?, When it comes to personal Insults your King of the Hill Jasbar.

Heres a sample of some your best in replying to me alone.

My over all Working hours would be within Tacho Guidleines as they are, but unlike An HGV Driver or a Lorry driver who adhere to Scheduled runs or Planned runs we need more flexibility than them to make sure none of our passengers are left stranded miles from where they want to be due to things such as Road conditions, Bad Weather, the Passenger changing their destination mid run. We cant just hall up mid route and Sleep over night in our cab!

Even Buses which can be hailed on passing know the exact time of their journeys so can plan ahead with that in mind, we dont have that luxury either.

If a Hack or a PH driver is forced to drive to income reducing time deadlines then he is going to drive faster than he ought to to cram as much work into his day, He will break the speed limit more often in 30, 40 or 40 mph Zones and it would not show as a speed infringement on his Tacho.

In winter because he does not have the luxury of being able to slow down and take longer to complete runs in Snow or icy conditions he will have a tendency to drive at his normal fair weather speeds to maintain his times, unlike regular Bus routes which can allow some leeway for this because they work these scheduled routes out with driver time in mind.

Any safety Advantage of the Tacho being introduced will be negated if not far outweighed by the increased passenger danger brought about through Taxi and Hack drivers under pressure to drive faster than the conditions would permit in both town and country roads, this being even worse as they chase their tails in exceptionally bad weather conditions.

Even if you had a Speed limiter built in to their vehicle it would only max out at 70 as per motorway speed limits and would not slow down town driving.

Another Disadvantage would be Harder Acceleration and harsher Driving techniques in the drivers bid to save a few minutes here and there to help him get his profitable mileage up, It would be less environmentally friendly and less comfortable for the customer.

Don't full yourself into thinking these things wouldn't happen, they would, its just human nature to do so.

Instead of pontificating as much you should look at the broader picture and the see that Taco's would create more accidents than they save. that might not be the case in PSV and HGV work but it would hold good in the Taxi/PH trade where all work is fiercely contested, sporadic and instantaneous in nature.

BTW..it will be more likely you in for the big shock when you wake up and discover that the world has left your misplaced idealism behind.

Aye, you certainly do have an inane talent for skewed logic and talking horlicks.

The flaw in your tripe is that it's not the speed at which a job is done that determines the remuneration level, it's the number of jobs that are done.

You sure you're even a PH driver?

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

You have lost it!! Of course Speed is relevant the quicker you can get back to base, rank or customer pick up point the more runs your likely to fit in, or have I missed something here that Dictates that Hacks can carry out as many runs as they want irrespective of available time.

But if you wish to do less by tootling along all day your more than welcome to, but all your likely to be seeing is the rear number plate of every Hack and PH as they realise the gravity and drawbacks of working curtailed hours brought about through enforced Tachograph use.

Must be my Imagination that when I'm in Edinburgh or any other City of an evening that you Hack guys and PH guys alike seem to drive faster than a chronic Diarrhetic looking for a toilet.

Is that the sound of distant thunder?


No its bloodnocks asshole twitching 200 miles away

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Aye...But at least Im not sitting with my head up it like some folk, No wonder they cant see the bleeding obvious..

Er no! Not so.

The economics of the trade are that, for night-shift, we're now down to around two average fares an hour on a weeknight, 3 on early weekend nights, and four at peak periods.

Substantially these numbers don't change. Even when its busy, like fest time there is a limit to how many fares can be done.

Racing to the next fare is futile, and dangerous.

As for Edinburgh taxi drivers driving faster, then this is simply because they're stupid and don't understand their own trade.

Fact is, in these days of new technology, the art of street pickup is being lost. So we have a situation where taxi drivers crawl along looking for the hand going up, get the punter in the car, then drive like maniacs to get them out again is as quick as and supposedly onto the next one. The reality, them just being little more than a mobile chicane and a hazard and inconvenience to other road users, who resent their arrogant misuse of the road.

The fact is that, for streetwork, there are known stretches where a pickup is likely. The rest of the time it's a no-no.

So a skilled street-car driver, knowing this, would drive with purpose, within the speed limit of course, to those areas where a pick-up is likely. He/she would pick up a passenger and drive them in some safety and comfort to their destination, hopefully an experience they would be happy to repeat.

But we've all seen taxis hurtling along, passengers heads bobbing about as they are jostled by drivers who just want their cash cow to cash up and ship out. That is not service to the public.

Speed is irrelevant. You can drive faster, but you're likely just going to sit on a rank longer, or cruise looking for a fare longer burning up ever more expensive fuel, all while posing an extra danger to the rest of us.

So BK, don't confuse Edinburgh taxi drivers, and your own, stupidity with common sense.

BTW The council doesn't licence drivers to behave like you suggest.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

The drivers will drive like that anyway, tacho or no tacho.
The tacho would simply give them fewer hours to be a moron in.

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You just can't (or won't) see the wood for the trees.



Reality is going to come as a real shock to the likes of you.
Your head is so far up your ass, you've forgotten what fresh air is.

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