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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:56 pm 
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Work patterns will change to suit demand. Why would everyone want to work the same hours making fek all? That makes no sense. #-o

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:05 pm 
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
. . . TACHOGRAPHS ! !

I am very reliably informed by two good sources, that at a meeting on Wednesday in the Greater Manchester area attended by Law Commission representatives and Asian drivers and Asian trade reps only from around the country [one of which was from Brum] that the topic of tachographs in taxis and PHVs was brought up by the Law Commission.

Apparently, this has been generated by responses from the police and their concerns about the long hours some drivers are working.

I was informed about this new development by the Asian trade rep from Brum who attended the meeting when I called him yesterday for a de-brief on the topics discussed at this meeting and I then called one of the meeting's organisers and she too confirmed that tachographs may now be on the Law Commission's deregulatory agenda of legislative reform.

Don't shoot the messenger.


I think some one should tell the NTTG ASAP.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:10 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
I think we all agree that the more hours we work the more dangerous it is for us all.

However it's also flawed thinking to say that we will earn more money by working extra hours.

Say you work a 10 hour shift, and most of your colleagues do likewise. If you worked a 12 hour shift logically you will earn 20% more.

But those extra hours are eating into your colleagues earnings, so they in-turn have to work more hours to compensate for the work that has been lost to those working extra hours.

So in effect we are all working longer for the same money that we would get if we all worked less hours. :-$

I have for 30 years said... that a driver should be able to earn a living by working 40 hours. so that means pay for his vehicle. then maintenance. insurance. road tax. licensing fees. fuel.. his wages.. and his tax.... and maybe accountant.... so what does he need to make per hour .

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:26 pm 
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so what does he need to make per hour .

I think 40 hours are too low to make a full-time living out this trade.

But 60 hours at £10-15 an hour (depending on shifts) shouldn't be that unobtainable.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:30 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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so what does he need to make per hour .

I think 40 hours are too low to make a full-time living out this trade.

But 60 hours at £10-15 an hour (depending on shifts) shouldn't be that unobtainable.

So a licensing officer who works 37 hours a week... in a warmer Office.... does not run the risk of being attacked.... is a better person than you and should be paid more... is that what you're saying

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:36 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
MR T wrote:
so what does he need to make per hour .

I think 40 hours are too low to make a full-time living out this trade.

But 60 hours at £10-15 an hour (depending on shifts) shouldn't be that unobtainable.

600 to 900 a week i wish !


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:38 pm 
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I have for 30 years said... that a driver should be able to earn a living by working 40 hours. so that means pay for his vehicle. then maintenance. insurance. road tax. licensing fees. fuel.. his wages.. and his tax.... and maybe accountant.... so what does he need to make per hour .


I'm gonna have a wild guess, although I don't think it's that wild, and suggest it's around the £20 ph mark. So if on average your job is £5.50 (which they reckon it is) then that's 4 jobs per hour worked :wink: Having said that is it enough to cover sick pay, holiday pay etc etc

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MrT wrote:
I have for 30 years said... that a driver should be able to earn a living by working 40 hours. so that means pay for his vehicle. then maintenance. insurance. road tax. licensing fees. fuel.. his wages.. and his tax.... and maybe accountant.... so what does he need to make per hour .


I'm gonna have a wild guess, although I don't think it's that wild, and suggest it's around the £20 ph mark. So if on average your job is £5.50 (which they reckon it is) then that's 4 jobs per hour worked :wink: Having said that is it enough to cover sick pay, holiday pay etc etc

and how many jobs per hour to you think they get...... and as for sick pay don't start me

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:42 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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so what does he need to make per hour .

I think 40 hours are too low to make a full-time living out this trade.

But 60 hours at £10-15 an hour (depending on shifts) shouldn't be that unobtainable.


The only reason you'd work silly hours like that on a regular basis, sat on your ass is because you wanna die young :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:43 pm 
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MR T wrote:
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MrT wrote:
I have for 30 years said... that a driver should be able to earn a living by working 40 hours. so that means pay for his vehicle. then maintenance. insurance. road tax. licensing fees. fuel.. his wages.. and his tax.... and maybe accountant.... so what does he need to make per hour .


I'm gonna have a wild guess, although I don't think it's that wild, and suggest it's around the £20 ph mark. So if on average your job is £5.50 (which they reckon it is) then that's 4 jobs per hour worked :wink: Having said that is it enough to cover sick pay, holiday pay etc etc

and how many jobs per hour to you think they get...... and as for sick pay don't start me


There is no reason why they can't have sick pay or holiday pay :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:46 pm 
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There is no reason why they can't have sick pay or holiday pay

explain

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:51 pm 
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So a licensing officer who works 37 hours a week... in a warmer Office.... does not run the risk of being attacked.... is a better person than you and should be paid more... is that what you're saying

Far from it.

They are not better people, but sadly people aren't rewarded on a nice person scale.

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600 to 900 a week i wish !

If you think £10 an hour is unobtainable, then that's very sad.

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MR T wrote:
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There is no reason why they can't have sick pay or holiday pay

explain


Explain what exactly? Drivers are paying operators who are not giving any benefits what they need to do is make them give benefits or go to an operator that does give benefits :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:57 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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600 to 900 a week i wish !

If you think £10 an hour is unobtainable, then that's very sad.

You think its sad that taxi drivers dontvearn 10 pound per hour all year round ? You live in a bubble .


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